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Old 11-24-2019, 09:26 PM   #176
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I miss Rich Bisaccia, he's such a good coach.







I don't know what'll happen, but I don't see Garrett as the issue (outside of maybe giving some of his coaches too much free reign). Kellen Moore is still learning and he's not too different from Garrett in terms of offensive philosophy. I wouldn't be shocked if Amari Cooper has a knee scope after the season is done judging by how he is being managed, something is clearly amiss there.



The team played valiantly and they just didn't do enough when it mattered. I was more concerned about the Defense and they snuffed out the Pats' offense all game long. Considering NE got 10 points from favorable field position and Dallas miscues, they very well could have won the game in a Field Position/Situation game.



I wasn't expecting a win but I hate to see missed opportunities. Buffalo and Chicago are both critical games, time to buckle down and take advantage of a short turn around with the Bills and go beat down a poor Bears offense after that.
Garrett not the issue?
Who are you?
Mediocre coach at best.
How many years of .500 football do you have to give him to figure out he just doesn't cut it?
As a lifelong Cowboys fan I've seen enough of Jason Garrett.

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Old 11-24-2019, 09:32 PM   #177
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Garrett not the issue?
Who are you?
Mediocre coach at best.
How many years of .500 football do you have to give him to figure out he just doesn't cut it?
As a lifelong Cowboys fan I've seen enough of Jason Garrett.

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Old 11-24-2019, 09:48 PM   #178
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I miss Rich Bisaccia, he's such a good coach.



I don't know what'll happen, but I don't see Garrett as the issue (outside of maybe giving some of his coaches too much free reign). Kellen Moore is still learning and he's not too different from Garrett in terms of offensive philosophy. I wouldn't be shocked if Amari Cooper has a knee scope after the season is done judging by how he is being managed, something is clearly amiss there.

The team played valiantly and they just didn't do enough when it mattered. I was more concerned about the Defense and they snuffed out the Pats' offense all game long. Considering NE got 10 points from favorable field position and Dallas miscues, they very well could have won the game in a Field Position/Situation game.

I wasn't expecting a win but I hate to see missed opportunities. Buffalo and Chicago are both critical games, time to buckle down and take advantage of a short turn around with the Bills and go beat down a poor Bears offense after that.
I was concerned when he left for the Raiders because he had done such a good job and he is one of the better special teams coaches in the league.

Garrett is a good coach who probably gets too much blame but his deficiencies and tendencies have inhibited his success. Unless the Cowboys have a deep playoff run I am guessing both parties go their separate ways.

I agree on Cooper, he is playing through a number of injuries.

I was concerned about the defense as well but just like you I thought they played well. The passing offense had a very rough day. The Patriots are a terrific defense but Prescott had a few poor throws and even Witten struggled to make catches. I would of like to have seem them give even more carrys to Elliott. He was their most consistent offensive weapon. The offensive line did seem to struggle in pass protection.

They really need to bounce back against the Bills and Bears to stay in the playoff race.
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:55 PM   #179
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Who is the replacement then?
Who ever is chosen will be faced with rebuilding the defense as they have a number of expiring contracts.
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Old 11-24-2019, 10:40 PM   #180
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Who ever is chosen will be faced with rebuilding the defense as they have a number of expiring contracts.
I'd be shocked if he is gone unless someone presents themselves as a "can't miss" coach (and no, I do not think Lincoln Riley is the answer).

If people are mad that Garrett isn't Tom Landry or Belichick, then I don't know how to assuage their feelings beyond "get over it". Bill is the exception of this era, not the rule.

If Dallas we're 3-8 or 2-9, I would understand the problem, but they're not, they're still in the driver's seat of the Division and will probably win it again (Philly looks lost IMO, they cannot cope with all of their injuries no matter how hard they play). They're probably not going to win the Super Bowl this year, but you know, they can't even try to get there if they don't make the playoffs.

The Cowboys have missed the Playoffs twice since 2014, 2015 when Romo broke his collarbone (they were still alive as of Thanksgiving too) and 2017 when Zeke was suspended (missed by a game). They were within a game of the playoffs in 2011-2013 (with some incredibly mediocre teams outside of Romo wizardry dragging terrible rosters behind him).

I don't know what Cowboys fans want, the 1970's again? That's not going to happen, it is about to be slammed shut on New England and they'll be sorry to see it happen too.

The league is built to knock teams down and the ones that aren't knocked down tend to have generational talent on the field or off of it. What does that make Garrett? Probably above average in terms of a coach. If the team is in position to make the playoffs every year and potentially do damage there every year, that's a great start to something greater. Considering the NFC East has been won by a different team for every year since 2004, that it would be pretty remarkable if Dallas won it twice in a row.
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Old 11-25-2019, 12:39 AM   #181
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Urban Meyer....
Garrett should have been fired last year already.
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Old 11-25-2019, 12:45 AM   #182
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Anyone find Cooper yet??
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Old 11-25-2019, 01:28 AM   #183
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Garrett is probably a better coach than he gets credit for. This team also clearly has a coaching problem. Both things can be true. This team has to many mental mistakes to be considered a good team. You can blame that on the individual coaches if you want, but a lot of the same problems have been around for the whole Garrett regime. Something clearly needs to change. This team is too good to be 6-5 and barely hanging on against an Eagles team that has cupcakes left on their schedule the rest of the way. This team has been consistently out coached in their losses, and all were winnable games. Go 2-2 in those games, that’s respectable. 0-4, that’s a problem. Based off his postgame comments Jerry knows it’s a problem as well.
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Old 11-25-2019, 07:48 AM   #184
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What coach wants to have to work with Jerry?

Urban meyer? Come on now.
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Old 11-25-2019, 07:55 AM   #185
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I'd be shocked if he is gone unless someone presents themselves as a "can't miss" coach (and no, I do not think Lincoln Riley is the answer).

If people are mad that Garrett isn't Tom Landry or Belichick, then I don't know how to assuage their feelings beyond "get over it". Bill is the exception of this era, not the rule.

If Dallas we're 3-8 or 2-9, I would understand the problem, but they're not, they're still in the driver's seat of the Division and will probably win it again (Philly looks lost IMO, they cannot cope with all of their injuries no matter how hard they play). They're probably not going to win the Super Bowl this year, but you know, they can't even try to get there if they don't make the playoffs.

The Cowboys have missed the Playoffs twice since 2014, 2015 when Romo broke his collarbone (they were still alive as of Thanksgiving too) and 2017 when Zeke was suspended (missed by a game). They were within a game of the playoffs in 2011-2013 (with some incredibly mediocre teams outside of Romo wizardry dragging terrible rosters behind him).

I don't know what Cowboys fans want, the 1970's again? That's not going to happen, it is about to be slammed shut on New England and they'll be sorry to see it happen too.

The league is built to knock teams down and the ones that aren't knocked down tend to have generational talent on the field or off of it. What does that make Garrett? Probably above average in terms of a coach. If the team is in position to make the playoffs every year and potentially do damage there every year, that's a great start to something greater. Considering the NFC East has been won by a different team for every year since 2004, that it would be pretty remarkable if Dallas won it twice in a row.
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Garrett is probably a better coach than he gets credit for. This team also clearly has a coaching problem. Both things can be true. This team has to many mental mistakes to be considered a good team. You can blame that on the individual coaches if you want, but a lot of the same problems have been around for the whole Garrett regime. Something clearly needs to change. This team is too good to be 6-5 and barely hanging on against an Eagles team that has cupcakes left on their schedule the rest of the way. This team has been consistently out coached in their losses, and all were winnable games. Go 2-2 in those games, that’s respectable. 0-4, that’s a problem. Based off his postgame comments Jerry knows it’s a problem as well.
The Cowboys has been highly competitive under Garrett but he has struggled mightily when the team is not healthy or at full strength. 2015 and 2017 really demonstrated Garrett's issues with this as the team struggled when Romo and Bryant were out and then again when T.Smith and Elliott were not on the field.

I do agree that it is a case where both statements can be true and it might be time to move on from Garrett. The Eagles have such an easy stretch of games that the Cowboys are probably going to have to win out. They have the talent but I don't know about the coaching or the consistency.

Under Garrett the Cowboys have averaged 7.7 points in the first half of Thanksgiving day games.
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:23 AM   #186
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Garrett is probably a better coach than he gets credit for. This team also clearly has a coaching problem. Both things can be true. This team has to many mental mistakes to be considered a good team. You can blame that on the individual coaches if you want, but a lot of the same problems have been around for the whole Garrett regime.
This is where I'm at too. Garrett is likable and a decent coach, he's just not a great coach. I'm sick of the mental mistakes, the failures to adjust and the playing down to opponents. I think the Cowboys's need to get away from the buddy coach and get a step on your neck coach.
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Old 11-25-2019, 10:00 AM   #187
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I still think it is the same problem with the Cowboys. A double-edged sword from your owner/gm. The coach is holding the team back (I think Garret has always been a lower half of coaches), but a "top" coach doesn't want to deal with Jerry also being the GM. Your best bet for replacement isn't an established good coach, but a young guy who has no desire to do any of the GM stuff. I don't think Jerry's ego could handle another Jimmy Johnson to come in and blow up the team, make all the gm decisions, and have success.
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Old 11-25-2019, 10:26 AM   #188
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I still think it is the same problem with the Cowboys. A double-edged sword from your owner/gm. The coach is holding the team back (I think Garret has always been a lower half of coaches), but a "top" coach doesn't want to deal with Jerry also being the GM. Your best bet for replacement isn't an established good coach, but a young guy who has no desire to do any of the GM stuff. I don't think Jerry's ego could handle another Jimmy Johnson to come in and blow up the team, make all the gm decisions, and have success.
Jerry has taken a big step back from his previous involvement with the team and is allowing Stephen Jones, Will McClay, and Garrett do to their jobs. If anything he has empowered them to be more involved.
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Old 11-25-2019, 12:08 PM   #189
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Prior to yesterday's game tripping had only been called 7 times all year.
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Old 11-25-2019, 12:20 PM   #190
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Jason Garrett at best would be a great high school head coach. Parents would love him.
As far as NFL a scout or a position coach. He's just not a great coach.
His teams are too undisciplined and lack fire that say Jimmy Johnson or Bill Belichick's teams do.
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Old 11-25-2019, 08:01 PM   #191
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As of now it looks like Keith O'Quinn keeps his job for another week.

An interesting article was posted to the Cowboys Wire that highlighted Cooper's play at home and on the road throughout his career and the contrast between the two performances is wide.
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:31 PM   #192
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NFL Admits The Two Tripping Calls Against The Cowboys Should Not Have Been Called
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:35 PM   #193
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Spent the whole day looking for Cooper - no such luck
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:53 PM   #194
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If there ever was a Cowboys vs Patriots Super Bowl it would break tv rating records.

Patriots-Cowboys gets best TV rating since 1996.
https://weei.radio.com/blogs/ryan-ha...ing-since-1996

According to FOX Sports, at 19.5 it was the network's highest-rated regular-season game since 1996. It also tied for the best regular-season rating on any network since 2007.

In Boston, the game got a 42.6 rating.
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:54 PM   #195
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I wanted to throat punch Mike Pereira trying to defend that slop.

Oh well, time to defeat Buffalo and build on that.
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I've come to the conclusion that referees don't decide games.......

.......but they do decide who gets fewer chances to win the game.
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I've come to the conclusion that referees don't decide games.......

.......but they do decide who gets fewer chances to win the game.
Very true, I think there might be a few exceptions at the conclusion of games but most often its about opportunities to win rather than the refs deciding a game.
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Old 11-27-2019, 01:53 PM   #198
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Say what you want, but I tend to agree with Troy Aikman.
https://nypost.com/2019/11/25/troy-a...s-cowboys-end/
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Best team to not make the Playoffs since Patriots in 08?
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