Issue with BBCE Box

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by GOWIFB

He advised on his live stream that the BBCE and all their employees mapped every single card pulled out of the box and that they all came from the same sheet which was sheet C. They confirm that their authentication of the box was correct and that it appeared Topps may have had a run of just using those sheets when packing the box. The BBCE is pretty sure this was not a frankenbox either given everything was consistent with the packs. They have offered to sell Jabs a new box at $1,000 which is half price.

Pathetic that just because he got the C sheet, he’s crying about it and complaining about commons. it’s gambling with any box. They all lost their ass on it and it happens. BBCE should never give them a box at 50% of normal cost just because no one got any “top cards”.

[ottobord]

Jabs preying on BBCE, lol

[salthill]

Originally Posted by ottobord

and out of them all you can't find one thing I said that isn't true

So you’re fine with him selling batting practice balls as game used?

[ottobord]

His buyers don't know they are buying batting practice balls? He openly has said he rarely stays for games.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by ottobord

His buyers don't know they are buying batting practice balls? He openly has said he rarely stays for games.

So stating he rarely stays for games in his youtube vlogs should be obvious to random bidders on Ebay?



Sweet.

[salthill]

Originally Posted by ottobord

His buyers don't know they are buying batting practice balls? He openly has said he rarely stays for games.

What do his YouTube viewers have to do with his eBay listings?

https://ebay.us/gSy4QS
Title... “Javier Baez Home Run Ball Game Used Major League Baseball 9/4/17 Chicago Cubs”
With that title I’d expect that to be a ball Javy Baez hit for a home run during the Cubs game on 9/4/17.
Plot twist ... the Cubs scored zero runs in that game.

[ottobord]

Yeah especially since he directs you to the actual video in his description, but maybe he's preying on those who don't have YouTube access

[ninjacookies]

Appears he's the king of the clickbaity titles.

https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...ms=negative_30

Ok my h8r rant is over.

He's an absolute humanitarian and I'm going to send him half of my pc.

Think of the kids.

[IronMonkey415]

If you are a youtube family... YOU ARE ****.

Don't trust any of them.

[ottobord]

Even the eBay negatives are fake news, sealed boxes and the buyers are unhappy with what they got.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by ottobord

Even the eBay negatives are fake news, sealed boxes and the buyers are unhappy with what they got.

Oh I get it now. You're his 'Betsy.'

[ottobord]

Stick to the insults. Nothing else is working

[salthill]

Originally Posted by ottobord

Stick to the insults. Nothing else is working

Groovy. But your definitely fine with him lying to people in eBay titles - which is how people find listings for items he doesn’t have?

[cypher]

The Jabs guy is trash. A benefactor of the broken Youtube algorithm. Awful click bait titles and he sells batting practice balls as game used.

[Jedi1823]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer

Pathetic that just because he got the C sheet, he’s crying about it and complaining about commons. it’s gambling with any box. They all lost their ass on it and it happens. BBCE should never give them a box at 50% of normal cost just because no one got any “top cards”.

Yeah, that's opening a whole can of worms. If people buy a box and don't get any of the "top cards" they'll complain now, and ask "Well, you gave Jabs 50% off for not hitting the top cards, what are you going to do for me?". They shouldn't have given in.

[JMTerp]

I saw the response this morning and was really happy up until he got to speak with Steve. I imagine the pressure on Steve to do something was immense because of (sadly) the power a popular youtuber in the hobby holds but I really wish he hadn't caved. As others have said it does open up a huge can of worms about being unhappy with the results from a chance product and will probably put a strain on bbce's "customer service" as idiotic people complain about what they pulled.

It's like buying fruit from the grocery store in that it's a crap shoot on what's going to be inside and how satisfied you will be after. You can't take an Apple back to the store just because it looked good on the outside but tasted awful on the inside.

[rcmb3220]

Unnecessary move by BBCE. Any backlash from fanboys will be ignored by their customer base. Their inventory is thin now even after the national and after many price increases.

[HarryLime]

That's how Steve handles things. I think he made a smart, calculated PR move. He's going to lose hundreds on the box but 1.) avoid any and all image problems and 2.) probably pick up some business from people for "doing the right thing."

I don't think it will come back to bite him because it was a case of a box consisting of cards entirely from one single sheet AND the break was entirely recorded. That's rare multiplied by rare to the "normal people would understand that's the risk of busting wax"nth power. I'd be surprised if those circumstances replicated themselves again AND it was an expensive box.

Arthur

[pacman099]

Originally Posted by GOWIFB

He advised on his live stream that the BBCE and all their employees mapped every single card pulled out of the box and that they all came from the same sheet which was sheet C.

Respect to BBCE... Great work. They're getting a ton of PR from YouTube. Might even behoove them to sponsor some boxes on the channel.

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by pacman099

Respect to BBCE... Great work. They're getting a ton of PR from YouTube. Might even behoove them to sponsor some boxes on the channel.

BBCE already makes enough money and has enough name recognition in the hobby than to sponsor breaks for a dude with just 40k subscribers (a lot are kids who will never be buying from BBCE) and someone who purposely misleads customers on eBay about “game used balls”.

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by ottobord

Even the eBay negatives are fake news, sealed boxes and the buyers are unhappy with what they got.

And Jabs hasn’t been unhappy recently with some boxes from BBCE lately because he hasn’t pulled any of the big cards. Sounds like he’s just like the people that leave him negatives.

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by ottobord

Yeah especially since he directs you to the actual video in his description, but maybe he's preying on those who don't have YouTube access

Or he’s too big of a scumbag to just list that it was a batting practice ball instead of listing it “game used” in the title and description. Not sure how you don’t see the scumbag in that type of move but ignorance is bliss.

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by HarryLime

That's how Steve handles things. I think he made a smart, calculated PR move. He's going to lose hundreds on the box but 1.) avoid any and all image problems and 2.) probably pick up some business from people for "doing the right thing."

I don't think it will come back to bite him because it was a case of a box consisting of cards entirely from one single sheet AND the break was entirely recorded. That's rare multiplied by rare to the "normal people would understand that's the risk of busting wax"nth power. I'd be surprised if those circumstances replicated themselves again AND it was an expensive box.

Arthur

I don’t see how giving another box of that product is “doing the right thing” just because a customer got unlucky. That’s part of the gamble in opening a box of cards. Should everyone who buys products get a half off box because they didn’t get a specific rookie or rookies they were looking for?

[cobravetteki]

Recently opened 3 89 upperdeck Low series BBCE FASC boxes and pulled 0 Griffey’s...

[HarryLime]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer

I don’t see how giving another box of that product is “doing the right thing” just because a customer got unlucky. That’s part of the gamble in opening a box of cards. Should everyone who buys products get a half off box because they didn’t get a specific rookie or rookies they were looking for?

It's almost as if you didn't read my post. "Doing the right thing" was in quotes for a reason. Steve understands that when you're running a business it isn't about who is right, it's about what the perception is going to be afterward. Right or wrong, the easiest and most cost-efficient (and cost-beneficial) move was what he did.

No, everyone who doesn't get cards won't get a box half off for all the reasons I stated in my previous post. It seems pretty straight-forward. The odds are this is a unique event.

Arthur