Greatest hobby rookie class of all time - Page 2

Deadshot · 06-15-2019, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rats60

None of those are really options.

1. 1961-14 Hofers, 7 of the top 50, 4 of the top 12
2. 1969- 18 Hofers, 12 of the top 50, 1 top 5

Everyone else is the far distance

Assuming he meant 1986, I think it should at least be taken into consideration (although I probably don't put 86 at #1).

By my count there are

11 HOF, 8 top 50, MJ

SHowley2003 · 06-15-2019, 02:55 PM

I’ll respond with my focus on modern cards. I consider vintage cards being anything from 1982 Topps and prior.

From an NBA fan I’ll take the 1996 draft class. The top tier of that draft class were generational talents who changed the course of their franchises forever. They will go down as some of the greatest players to ever play the game. There is more greatness in the 1996 draft class than there is is the 2003 draft class. Especially because Kobe was better than LeBron, but that’s another debate for another thread.

However, from an impact on the hobby perspective I’ll take the 2012 rookie class. Rookies drive the hobby each year and 2012 was a major shift in the hobby. It was the first year Panini seemed to really figure out the basketball market. There is no debating that the 1986, 1996 & 2003 products revolutionized the hobby. However, do the individual products that came out in those years have the same impact as the numerous ground breaking products of 2012-13. Prizm, Select, Immaculate & Flawless all debuted in 2012-13 plus there was the continued growth of NT RPAs, the Preferred Silhouette autos and multiple opportunities for a rookie Logoman. Absolute featured a base rookie card that was /199 and most were on-card. You had chances for on-card rookie autos in products as cheap as Threads and amazing patches in low end products such as Crusade and Brilliance. When you consider the quality and variety of the products, the number of HOFers that will be come from the 2012-13 rookie class and the revolutionary products that were introduced I would argue that from a hobby perspective the 2012-13 releases were the most significant modern release.

AbraCalabro · 06-15-2019, 02:58 PM

94/95, 95/96 and 96/97 are the GOAT years

Kefka891 · 06-15-2019, 03:32 PM

Lol at the old dudes in this thread unable to be subjective and say 1996 is the hobbies best year. (An argument can be made for 2003 due to price of LBJ stuff obviously)

Deadshot · 06-15-2019, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kefka891

Lol at the old dudes in this thread unable to be subjective and say 1996 is the hobbies best year. (An argument can be made for 2003 due to price of LBJ stuff obviously)

In their defense, my original post was about players only. As far as sets and hobby innovation go, it would be difficult to pair a few standalone releases in 57, 61, and 86 to the sets that really propelled us forward in 96.

TheFrenzy · 06-15-2019, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asujbl

Hobby draft class (which is what was actually asked) is totally different

96 is the answer

Why? Because Topps Chrome

We wouldn’t be where we are without 96

Agreed.

We just have to fight the inevitable:

geoffyb · 06-15-2019, 03:55 PM

I think it really depends on if you mean when it released or what it has become. 1996-97 was a good one but Topps Chrome was not even a popular set upon release. I remember seeing boxes of this on clearance at Walmart. 1997-98 changed the game with numbered inserts and created the parallel craze. 1998-99 introduced us to Vince Carter and Jason Williams. It also built upon the parallels and really ever set Rookie cards were SP. both of those years cards were going crazy at the time of release. I cannot say the same for 96-97

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Kefka891 · 06-15-2019, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kefka891

Lol at the old dudes in this thread unable to be subjective and say 1996 is the hobbies best year. (An argument can be made for 2003 due to price of LBJ stuff obviously)

Meant to say 1996 isn’t *

Deadshot · 06-15-2019, 04:23 PM

I meant players. Take the sets and technology away and what yr of rookie cards boasted the best overall class of players.

AbraCalabro · 06-15-2019, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asujbl

Hobby draft class (which is what was actually asked) is totally different

96 is the answer

Why? Because Flair Showcase

We wouldn’t be where we are without 96

fixed

View Poll Results: What is the greatest hobby rookie class of all time?
1948	0	0%
1957	0	0%
1961	5	4.55%
1986	22	20.00%
1996	39	35.45%
2003	37	33.64%
2012	7	6.36%
Voters: 110. You may not vote on this poll

06-15-2019, 02:55 PM	#27
SHowley2003 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 6,788 SHowley2003 SHowley2003	I’ll respond with my focus on modern cards. I consider vintage cards being anything from 1982 Topps and prior. From an NBA fan I’ll take the 1996 draft class. The top tier of that draft class were generational talents who changed the course of their franchises forever. They will go down as some of the greatest players to ever play the game. There is more greatness in the 1996 draft class than there is is the 2003 draft class. Especially because Kobe was better than LeBron, but that’s another debate for another thread. However, from an impact on the hobby perspective I’ll take the 2012 rookie class. Rookies drive the hobby each year and 2012 was a major shift in the hobby. It was the first year Panini seemed to really figure out the basketball market. There is no debating that the 1986, 1996 & 2003 products revolutionized the hobby. However, do the individual products that came out in those years have the same impact as the numerous ground breaking products of 2012-13. Prizm, Select, Immaculate & Flawless all debuted in 2012-13 plus there was the continued growth of NT RPAs, the Preferred Silhouette autos and multiple opportunities for a rookie Logoman. Absolute featured a base rookie card that was /199 and most were on-card. You had chances for on-card rookie autos in products as cheap as Threads and amazing patches in low end products such as Crusade and Brilliance. When you consider the quality and variety of the products, the number of HOFers that will be come from the 2012-13 rookie class and the revolutionary products that were introduced I would argue that from a hobby perspective the 2012-13 releases were the most significant modern release. __________________ "My name is Shaquille O'Neal and Paul Pierce is the MFing Truth."

06-15-2019, 02:58 PM	#28
AbraCalabro Temporarily Suspended Join Date: May 2013 Location: Believe in Saint Abra. Posts: 10,748	94/95, 95/96 and 96/97 are the GOAT years __________________ -FREE TRISTAN- LeBron Exquisite /99 - altered & damaged - A master class in corruption. NEVER FORGET: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1255123

06-15-2019, 04:23 PM	#34
Deadshot Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 7,694	I meant players. Take the sets and technology away and what yr of rookie cards boasted the best overall class of players. __________________ He said he name was “E”, so I introduced myself as “G”...The license plate said “IMNBITZ” or “IMNBISZ” or something. - G YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPuD3WYJ0rkpLqDdyavC2WA

06-15-2019, 03:32 PM	#29
Kefka891 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 951	Lol at the old dudes in this thread unable to be subjective and say 1996 is the hobbies best year. (An argument can be made for 2003 due to price of LBJ stuff obviously)

06-15-2019, 03:55 PM	#32
geoffyb Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3,159	I think it really depends on if you mean when it released or what it has become. 1996-97 was a good one but Topps Chrome was not even a popular set upon release. I remember seeing boxes of this on clearance at Walmart. 1997-98 changed the game with numbered inserts and created the parallel craze. 1998-99 introduced us to Vince Carter and Jason Williams. It also built upon the parallels and really ever set Rookie cards were SP. both of those years cards were going crazy at the time of release. I cannot say the same for 96-97 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk