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Old 10-07-2016, 08:24 PM   #7501
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It's 2016, words hurt people's vajayjays, so we know why the Dems think Trump is worse.
Very shortsighted comment here. In my case, and I can't speak for others voting for Clinton, offensive comments are whatever. It's what stupid thing will he say to insult what other world leader. He has absolutely no filter which is attractive to his voters but it's amongst the worst traits a President could have. The president needs to take in what his cabinet says, take in what he learns and make a decision based on those things. Not just mouth off whatever is on their mind. And certainly not just shoot from the hip and make a decision. The man keeps proving over and over again he lacks the capacity for any actual process. It's amazing that people are blind to that.

But I guess, when in doubt, blame the liberal media and Obama.
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Trailing by over 4% after his terrible debate performance and now this with another debate days away. Nail in the coffin. No way he comes back from this.
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It's 2016, words hurt people's vajayjays, so we know why the Dems think Trump is worse.
What else are politicians going to use to outline their campaign platform, morse code?
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Very shortsighted comment here. In my case, and I can't speak for others voting for Clinton, offensive comments are whatever. It's what stupid thing will he say to insult what other world leader. He has absolutely no filter which is attractive to his voters but it's amongst the worst traits a President could have. The president needs to take in what his cabinet says, take in what he learns and make a decision based on those things. Not just mouth off whatever is on their mind. And certainly not just shoot from the hip and make a decision. The man keeps proving over and over again he lacks the capacity for any actual process. It's amazing that people are blind to that.

But I guess, when in doubt, blame the liberal media and Obama.
I'm a trump supporter and am not blind to the fact that he does and says stupid things. He hasn't done anything newsworthy in the last couple weeks so they are going as far back as they can to continue the narrative. Guess what. He is not a politician. He doesn't have a scripted answer for every possible thing. I accept the fact that he will say stuff that is not politically correct. I agree with him on many issues like border security, lower taxes, and replacing Obama care for example. I don't support him just because he is famous or outspoken.

To be honest, what bothers me the most is the Hillary supporters who can't really name a good reason to vote for her, and are strictly using the "Trump is evil" card to make a case for her. I'm not sure what percentage of people that is, but I sure don't find many who can defend her record or the reason why she would be a good president.
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Trump needs to drop out then maybe Hillary can be defeated. Then all will be ok.

I wish he would drop out, but we know his ego will talk him out of it.
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I'm a trump supporter and am not blind to the fact that he does and says stupid things. He hasn't done anything newsworthy in the last couple weeks so they are going as far back as they can to continue the narrative. Guess what. He is not a politician. He doesn't have a scripted answer for every possible thing. I accept the fact that he will say stuff that is not politically correct. I agree with him on many issues like border security, lower taxes, and replacing Obama care for example. I don't support him just because he is famous or outspoken.



To be honest, what bothers me the most is the Hillary supporters who can't really name a good reason to vote for her, and are strictly using the "Trump is evil" card to make a case for her. I'm not sure what percentage of people that is, but I sure don't find many who can defend her record or the reason why she would be a good president.


Did you miss the debate 2 weeks ago???

Glad to see you are open minded but a lot of what trump says doesn't make sense to me. He wants to lower taxes and increase spending which will lead to what? There are a lot of issues on both sides that I agree and disagree with but then it comes down to trust factor. And I can't trust a word that comes out his mouth.

Sure, Clinton has been caught lying as well but every word is a manipulation from Trump. He's never done anything that isn't for him.


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Republicans jumping ship real quick. Romney 2020!!!
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Did you miss the debate 2 weeks ago???

Glad to see you are open minded but a lot of what trump says doesn't make sense to me. He wants to lower taxes and increase spending which will lead to what? There are a lot of issues on both sides that I agree and disagree with but then it comes down to trust factor. And I can't trust a word that comes out his mouth.

Sure, Clinton has been caught lying as well but every word is a manipulation from Trump. He's never done anything that isn't for him.


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I agree he is very vague about the details of how things are going to get done in his plans. We are seeing what happens when a non politican acts like a non politician on the biggest stage. I lived in California when Schwarzenegger ran and became the governor. I thought this cycle would be similar but didn't understand how bad it would be for the establishment, media, and big businesses if someone like Trump became president. What we are witnessing is the most powerful entities in the United States on a mission to destroy Trump.

Once all the emails and all the scandals from both sides are completely out there in plain sight by Nov 8th, it really will be up to all of America to decide what is most important to them going forward. I'll keep making the case for trump unless something really bad or unlawful comes up about him, and will continue to acknowledge my disdain for corruption in politics, which is what I personally see Hillary as part of.
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I agree he is very vague about the details of how things are going to get done in his plans. We are seeing what happens when a non politican acts like a non politician on the biggest stage. I lived in California when Schwarzenegger ran and became the governor. I thought this cycle would be similar but didn't understand how bad it would be for the establishment, media, and big businesses if someone like Trump became president. What we are witnessing is the most powerful entities in the United States on a mission to destroy Trump.
If this was a respectable individual or candidate with such a checkered past I may agree with you to some degree. Maybe this started out as a bit of a witch hunt when it came to Trump but the "mission to destroy Trump" is being led by Donald Trump, not the media.

He can't get out of his own way in this race. There was a stretch a month ago where he would have likely picked up 3-4 points on Clinton if he would have gone to the moon for two weeks - instead, while she was having some issues of her own, he kept talking.

Every time he talks, it is bad for his campaign.
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At this point, Trump just doesn't have what it takes to be President. CEO and leader of a business? Sure. The office carries certain level of respect. The way he has spoken about people has come back to haunt him. The GOP and their voters were playing with fire with him. I was, and still am, shocked that he made it to this point. It says a lot about the GOP and the state of their party. Like I said before, it seems like republicans turn on their own the second they show signs of working with democrats.

John Boehner, Chris Christie, Paul Ryan, and others have all faced the scorn of the GOP base for daring to try and compromise. The party may be coming to an end with this election.

I really do not like Clinton. She is just as dirty as Trump but she is a politician and knows how to phrase things. I love seeing that Gary Johnson, and in some states, Jill Stein, are throwing this election off by gaining more votes than the margin of victory for Clinton and Trump. Both parties SUCK right now. The GOP has lost control of their voters and the democrats basically fixed their primary to favor one candidate.

This is honestly the first time in my short life that I am worried for the future of the country.
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At this point, Trump just doesn't have what it takes to be President. CEO and leader of a business? Sure. The office carries certain level of respect. The way he has spoken about people has come back to haunt him. The GOP and their voters were playing with fire with him. I was, and still am, shocked that he made it to this point. It says a lot about the GOP and the state of their party. Like I said before, it seems like republicans turn on their own the second they show signs of working with democrats.

John Boehner, Chris Christie, Paul Ryan, and others have all faced the scorn of the GOP base for daring to try and compromise. The party may be coming to an end with this election.

I really do not like Clinton. She is just as dirty as Trump but she is a politician and knows how to phrase things. I love seeing that Gary Johnson, and in some states, Jill Stein, are throwing this election off by gaining more votes than the margin of victory for Clinton and Trump. Both parties SUCK right now. The GOP has lost control of their voters and the democrats basically fixed their primary to favor one candidate.

This is honestly the first time in my short life that I am worried for the future of the country.

I said this in the first couple of pages of this thread. Thank god I have family in Mexico. If that fails my new company is based in Canada.
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Did you miss the debate 2 weeks ago???

Glad to see you are open minded but a lot of what trump says doesn't make sense to me. He wants to lower taxes and increase spending which will lead to what? There are a lot of issues on both sides that I agree and disagree with but then it comes down to trust factor. And I can't trust a word that comes out his mouth.

Sure, Clinton has been caught lying as well but every word is a manipulation from Trump. He's never done anything that isn't for him.


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Clinton is exactly what is wrong with our Government. People want change, but keep voting for these crooks.
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Clinton is exactly what is wrong with our Government. People want change, but keep voting for these crooks.


Wanting change is great, but is Trump a change you think would actually be better for us? What about his words and actions tells you that he will improve our country at all?


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Did anyone happen to see the Jeep commercial during the baseball games tonight?

I thought it was brilliant and clearly unintentional during such times where we scream and yell at each other about our differences.

Take a moment and celebrate what we all have in common:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rV-KdxLb2E



Note - I realize this kind of touchy feely BS has absolutely no place in this thread - now, let's get back to hating each other!
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[QUOTE=jewcer2k5;11483822]Wanting change is great, but is Trump a change you think would actually be better for us? What about his words and actions tells you that he will improve our country at all?


So we should continue to allow the Clintons to corrupt the DOJ and FBI and other parts of government? Why not allow an outside individual to try something different.
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So we should continue to allow the Clintons to corrupt the DOJ and FBI and other parts of government? Why not allow an outside individual to try something different.


So Trump hasn't said or done anything that makes you think his change will be better for the country? You just want change and don't care what it is? That doesn't make much sense to me. Trump would be the straw that broke this countries back. Thankfully he really just keeps getting in his own way.

Seriously, what woman will vote for him???


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Did you miss the debate 2 weeks ago???

Glad to see you are open minded but a lot of what trump says doesn't make sense to me. He wants to lower taxes and increase spending which will lead to what? There are a lot of issues on both sides that I agree and disagree with but then it comes down to trust factor. And I can't trust a word that comes out his mouth.

Sure, Clinton has been caught lying as well but every word is a manipulation from Trump. He's never done anything that isn't for him.


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Answer his question.
What has Hillary done to deserve my vote?
And why hasn't she already done it?


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Answer his question.
What has Hillary done to deserve my vote?
And why hasn't she already done it?


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I'm still waiting for my questions to be answered. :/.

What has Trump said or done that makes you believe he will improve our country?


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So Trump hasn't said or done anything that makes you think his change will be better for the country? You just want change and don't care what it is? That doesn't make much sense to me. Trump would be the straw that broke this countries back. Thankfully he really just keeps getting in his own way.

Seriously, what woman will vote for him???


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So she has spent almost 30 years in the Government and has accomplished nothing. So lets make her President.
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I'm still waiting for my questions to be answered. :/.

What has Trump said or done that makes you believe he will improve our country?


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He speaks his mind and is not scripted. I believe he will get more done in 4 years then Clinton has in 30.
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I think one of the bigger things that Trump boasts about that bothers me is the bringing back of these factory jobs and manufacturing jobs that will NEVER return to this country. I just don't understand how people can blindly eat that up like they literally think those types of jobs are ever coming back to this country. If you look at the statistics since the recession ended manufacturing output has increased but manufacturing jobs haven't. Those factories are going to be full of robotics not humans
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He speaks his mind and is not scripted. I believe he will get more done in 4 years then Clinton has in 30.
Her first major role in national politics was as First Lady, when former President Bill Clinton won his first presidential race in 1992.
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I think one of the bigger things that Trump boasts about that bothers me is the bringing back of these factory jobs and manufacturing jobs that will NEVER return to this country. I just don't understand how people can blindly eat that up like they literally think those types of jobs are ever coming back to this country. If you look at the statistics since the recession ended manufacturing output has increased but manufacturing jobs haven't. Those factories are going to be full of robotics not humans
People have to fix those robots.
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So she has spent almost 30 years in the Government and has accomplished nothing. So lets make her President.
I think your definition of accomplish nothing is pretty skewed.

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Let's see what Trump is running on now.....

He says he's for women's rights.....then today.

He says he wants everyone to pay their fair share of taxes.....hmmmm

He says he wants manufacturing jobs back in the US....Well his lines are manufactured abroad

Instead of allowing peaceful protest he incites violence.

He says he can stand on 5th Avenue and shoot a man and won't lose any votes.

He still hasn't given one solid platform on anything he will do when he gets in office. He uses vague terms and then plays off of fear. He sells to the people that want to buy. You actually don't even know what he will be selling, but hell it's gonna be great, right?


This man will say anything to try and get your vote. His actions need to speak louder. There is nothing he has done or will do that isn't for him. How many people on this forum (that are pro Trump) do you think will benefit from a repeal on the death/estate tax? Here's a hint, you have to be worth millions. Yes, millions to have any taxes due on your estate. Here is another hint, most of those people protect their assets in multiple ways regardless. He is a slimy businessman and is completely unfit to represent or protect our country.

"Hey Donald you have small hands."

"Well leader of small country that made fun of me, I am now going to hit this button with my small hands and blow you up...AHHAHAHHAH...Isn't this great??!?!?!?"

(Obvious stretch but seriously, is it?)

My mind is blown by how many people want this. Well they don't really, how could they? They want a change and since this is the option for change they are picking it. That's not a good enough reason. Find someone with their head on their shoulders that could actually improve the country and I will happily get behind a change. But this change would be devastating to our country.
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And that qualifies him to be President?!?!?!!?!?!??!
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