2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here

[thebrett]

Originally Posted by corndog

They are calling him a racist because he has an (R) beside his name.
That is how liberals attack opposing opinions.

Wait, I'm calling him racist because he is racist

I'm not a liberal

I do know that in order for any of these folks running for office to sell themselves as the solution to your problems, they must 1st explain all of your problems to you

Honestly, I don't view immigrants as a threat. I have a job, and if it goes away I'll get another one because I have employable skills and the ability to learn

I don't care if you lose e-mails, I assume all Politicians know things I don't want to know and lie with a straight face regularly

Now, no part of me or anyone using true logic actually believes Trump or Clinton is in the KKK, everyone of those same people probably does know the elections are to some degree always rigged.

Black people as a whole in this country do operate with a disadvantage off the starting line, but so do poor people, Mexican people, 1st generation immigrants, short people, people with red hair etc...

The United States IS currently great, probably more great for more people than ever before. The solutions to basically every problem outlined in this thread is never going to come from a President.

I'd love to know where these candidates stand on education, job TRAINING and creating value in American workers as opposed to legislating jobs come back and production happens in the United States.

People are always the problem, and until more of us realize we are naturally selfish, under informed and kind of dumb we won't solve anything

[corndog]

Originally Posted by houdini

Riiiiiiiiiiight. So it has nothing at all to do with his actual racism.

Donald J. Trump (R)iiiiiiiiiiight.

I would settle for that. ^^^

Trump is many things, but an actual racist isn't one of them.

Elitist? Yes.
Anal sphincter? Yes
I could go on and on? Yes

[CrownCollector]

Originally Posted by houdini

Riiiiiiiiiiight. So it has nothing at all to do with his actual racism.

So we have a racist on one side, and a criminal who should be in jail on the other. Things are certainly looking up for this country, aren't they.

[quackhead]

Originally Posted by Bronco Buster

Even let's say Trump gets elected. Anyone with a brain knows you aren't going to build this huge wall the span of the US/Mexico border and deport 11 million + illegal immigrants in a 4 yr. span. That's not to mention all these other things he wants to do.

How about taking those 11 million illegals, giving them all a hard hat and a hammer, and having them build the wall?

[JohnRyno]

Originally Posted by corndog

They are calling him a racist because he has an (R) beside his name.
That is how liberals attack opposing opinions.

Paul Ryan described Trump's comments as those of a "textbook racist."

FYI, Paul Ryan is the current Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, with a pretty big (R) next to his name.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by JohnRyno

Paul Ryan described Trump's comments as those of a "textbook racist."

FYI, Paul Ryan is the current Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, with a pretty big (R) next to his name.

But...But...he speaks like I do...

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by houdini

Riiiiiiiiiiight. So it has nothing at all to do with his actual racism.

Originally Posted by Addison

But...But...he speaks like I do...

I can't believe I have to ask this, but in 1,000,000 sound bytes of Donald Trump so far this election season, do you even have an example or racism? Do you have a story where Donald Trump has ever practiced racism?

Round and round we go with this non-sense. It's one thing if a guy actually uses words or actions which show you how he feels about certain people, it's another simply to blanket someone a "racist" for no reason whatsoever, which the two of you seem to have done (as well as millions of others).

[CrownCollector]

[Addison]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I can't believe I have to ask this, but in 1,000,000 sound bytes of Donald Trump so far this election season, do you even have an example or racism? Do you have a story where Donald Trump has ever practiced racism?

Round and round we go with this non-sense. It's one thing if a guy actually uses words or actions which show you how he feels about certain people, it's another simply to blanket someone a "racist" for no reason whatsoever, which the two of you seem to have done (as well as millions of others).

Easy. His comments trying to discredit a judge ruling on his Trump University case. Pure racist rhetoric.

Take it a few years back with his "birther" campaign garbage.

Take it back decades when he's been sued for racial discrimination.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Addison

Easy. His comments trying to discredit a judge ruling on his Trump University case. Pure racist rhetoric.

Take it a few years back with his "birther" campaign garbage.

Take it back decades when he's been sued for racial discrimination.

You're avoiding the question ... what did he say?

Use quotes, reference your source.

[houdini]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I can't believe I have to ask this, but in 1,000,000 sound bytes of Donald Trump so far this election season, do you even have an example or racism? Do you have a story where Donald Trump has ever practiced racism?

Round and round we go with this non-sense. It's one thing if a guy actually uses words or actions which show you how he feels about certain people, it's another simply to blanket someone a "racist" for no reason whatsoever, which the two of you seem to have done (as well as millions of others).

Here Are 13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist

“Claiming a person can’t do their job because of their race is sort of like the textbook definition of a racist comment,” House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said in a reaction to Trump’s comments, though he clarified that he still endorses the nominee.

You can pretend he isn't racist. It doesn't bother me any. Just like people calling Hillary a criminal - that doesn't bother me any.

Hillary is a liar - no doubt.

If you want to support Trump, own it. Stop pretending he is not a racist. Own it.

Are you trying to convince me or yourself?

I think all illegal immigrants should be deported. All of them. If they have children here though, those children are entitled to citizenship.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by CrownCollector

Love false equivalencies and meaningless memes.

It's also true that Robert Byrd was a member of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1940s and helped establish the hate group's chapter in Sophia, West Virginia. However, in 1952 Byrd avowed that "After about a year, I became disinterested [in the KKK], quit paying my dues, and dropped my membership in the organization," and throughout his long political career (he served for 57 years in the United States Congress) he repeatedly apologized for his involvement with the KKK

"I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times ... and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened."

In 2010, even the NAACP released a statement honoring Senator Byrd and mourning his passing:

The NAACP is saddened by the passing of United States Senator Robert Byrd. Byrd, the longest serving member of congress was first elected to the U.S. House from [West Virginia] in 1952 and was elected Senator in 1958. Byrd passed away this morning at the age of 92. "Senator Byrd reflects the transformative power of this nation," stated NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous. "Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to a being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country. "Senator Byrd came to consistently support the NAACP civil rights agenda, doing well on the NAACP Annual Civil Rights Report Card. He stood with us on many issues of crucial importance to our members from the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act, the historic health care legislation of 2010 and his support for the Hate Crimes Prevention legislation," stated Hilary O. Shelton, Director of the NAACP Washington Bureau and Senior Vice President for Advocacy and Policy. "Senator Byrd was a master of the Senate Rules, and helped strategize passage of legislation that helped millions of Americans. He will be sorely missed."

Hillary Clinton Kissed by Former Klan Member : snopes.com

[Athey49]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

You're avoiding the question ... what did he say?

Use quotes, reference your source.

Former employees of Donald Trump have also accused the real estate mogul of racism. John R. O'Donnell, a former president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino, wrote in his 1991 book Trumped! that Trump frequently used racial slurs:

I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. . . . I think the guy is lazy. And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It's not anything they can control."

[trixstar]

Donald Trump Was Never Called Racist Before Running for President : snopes.com

[Addison]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

You're avoiding the question ... what did he say?

Use quotes, reference your source.

Tapper: So, no Mexican judge could ever be involved in a case that involves you?

Trump: Well, no, he is a member of a society where -- very pro-Mexico. And that's fine. It's all fine.

Tapper: Except that you're calling into question his heritage.

Trump: I think he should recuse himself.

Donald Trump's racial comments about Hispanic judge in Trump University case | PolitiFact Wisconsin

His actions speak as loud as his words, which are the best words, believe me. Believe me.

[trixstar]

Donald Trump asks if Obama would have attended Antonin Scalia's funeral were it held at a mosque - CNNPolitics.com

Donald Trump says African-American youths 'have no spirit' | The Independent

Trump's Pants on Fire tweet that blacks killed 81% of white homicide victims | PolitiFact

Trump Criticizes Pequots, Casino - tribunedigital-thecourant

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...248385?lang=en

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...10662424223744

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...wsrc%5Etfw



I can show you even more examples if you want to change the R to a F

[CrownCollector]

Originally Posted by Addison

Love false equivalencies and meaningless memes.

He was connected, and for all anyone knows, he could have recruited someone who beat, hung, or killed someone, or maybe he did something himself. Anyone who ever associated with that hate group has no place in government/politics, and certainly does not deserve to be honored. Trump racist? He's certainly not done anything to change that perception and image, he made his bed now he has to sleep in it. Anyone who thinks Hillary doesn't have the baggage to be called a racist as well, is just an apologist or blind.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Addison

Tapper: So, no Mexican judge could ever be involved in a case that involves you?

Trump: Well, no, he is a member of a society where -- very pro-Mexico. And that's fine. It's all fine.

Tapper: Except that you're calling into question his heritage.

Trump: I think he should recuse himself.

Donald Trump's racial comments about Hispanic judge in Trump University case | PolitiFact Wisconsin

His actions speak as loud as his words, which are the best words, believe me. Believe me.

"I think he should recuse himself" is racist? That's the quote you pick out to prove Donald Trump is a racist? Seriously?

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by trixstar

Donald Trump asks if Obama would have attended Antonin Scalia's funeral were it held at a mosque - CNNPolitics.com

Donald Trump says African-American youths 'have no spirit' | The Independent

Trump's Pants on Fire tweet that blacks killed 81% of white homicide victims | PolitiFact

Trump Criticizes Pequots, Casino - tribunedigital-thecourant

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...248385?lang=en

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...10662424223744

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...rc=twsrc%5Etfw



I can show you even more examples if you want to change the R to a F

You didn't provide a single example of racism. Saying that thugs are hurting the city of Baltimore is not racist, saying the Chinese came up with the concept of global warming is not racist . Comon now.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

"I think he should recuse himself" is racist? That's the quote you pick out to prove Donald Trump is a racist? Seriously?

"Textbook definition"

Saying someone is unfit for their position simply because of who they are is disgusting.

He has made countless sexist comments over the decades. If the judge were a woman, and he said she is unfit to do her job because of that, would that rhetoric not be sexist?

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Addison

"Textbook definition"

Saying someone is unfit for their position simply because of who they are is disgusting.

He has made countless sexist comments over the decades. If the judge were a woman, and he said she is unfit to do her job because of that, would that rhetoric not be sexist?

The guy was getting blasted in the media about his comments on Mexico when he declared his Presidency; you don't think it's not such a bad idea to ask him to recuse himself because of all the press he received? If the judge says no (which he did), end of story.

And now we move from being unable to prove Trump is racist, to saying Trump is sexist. Got it.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

The guy was getting blasted in the media about his comments on Mexico when he declared his Presidency; you don't think it's not such a bad idea to ask him to recuse himself because of all the press he received? If the judge says no (which he did), end of story.

And now we move from being unable to prove Trump is racist, to saying Trump is sexist. Got it.

No, not end of story. So just because Trump has inflammatory rhetoric towards a certain group, any judge or individual that's critical of him needs to resign because they are by definition unfit to do their job?

There's already decades of racially charged actions from Trump, it's already been demonstrated. And when you repeatedly tweet neo-nazi propaganda, game over.

The sexist analogy served to prove a point which you got distracted by clearly.

[JohnRyno]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

The guy was getting blasted in the media about his comments on Mexico when he declared his Presidency; you don't think it's not such a bad idea to ask him to recuse himself because of all the press he received? If the judge says no (which he did), end of story.

And now we move from being unable to prove Trump is racist, to saying Trump is sexist. Got it.

Can you disprove the assertion? It appears as if you're only looking for a protracted, epistemological debate.

Unless someone is an avowed member of an ideologically racist organization, how are we to prove what they do, or do not, actually believe?

He was taken to court by the federal government for discriminatory housing practices, and that was under the Nixon administration. There are countless gaffs concerning his views on race throughout the campaign.

One can analyze this aggregate of facts and draw a reasonable conclusion that there is a paradigm of racism.

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

You didn't provide a single example of racism. Saying that thugs are hurting the city of Baltimore is not racist, saying the Chinese came up with the concept of global warming is not racist . Comon now.

We obviously have different opinions on what is and what isn't racist. I mean you have google you're just being a troll at this point. If you're honestly going to legitimately argue that these things aren't racist and that he's not a bigot then there's really not a point of you and I discussing what is and what isn/t racist.

Donald Trump?s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2016, explained - Vox

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Addison

No, not end of story. So just because Trump has inflammatory rhetoric towards a certain group, any judge or individual that's critical of him needs to resign because they are by definition unfit to do their job?

There's already decades of racially charged actions from Trump, it's already been demonstrated.

The sexist analogy served to prove a point which you got distracted by clearly.

Trump says Mexico not bringing their best, lists the worst. Media says Trump racist toward Mexican heritage, draws judge with Mexican heritage. Asks judge to recuse himself for conflict of interest, declared racist by you simply for the request.

You haven't provided a single quote of anything. Racially charged actions, inflammatory rhetoric, sexist analogy ... blah blah blah. A whole lot of nothing because there is nothing.