2025 Topps Chrome Marvel

[orion9578]

Originally Posted by glorbgorb

I do NOT like the Topps products thus far, but I have to play devil's advocate a little. 1. On the whole, I think the Topps sketches are "better" than the UD ones. (I am not including Miller in that, who is only name recognition.) Part of that is maybe because less numbers of artists doing less cards. Maybe? 2025 Chrome has 23 artists. With few exceptions, UD had 75 or more. Many times 100 or more. I've also heard that Topps' timelines are more forgiving for the cards to be completed and returned.

Also the odds are longer in the Topps Marvel products than the typical UD products. This means prices are stronger. I create artist signature pages, so I am looking up sketchcards all the time. A Topps sketch that goes for, say, $250, would be $80 on UD stock. As you alluded to, maybe after a dozen sets that changes, but I don't think we'll ever see the sketch-per-box like Rittenhouse did back in the day.

2. The conversation is the same for Cuts. UD, quite honestly, made too many of them. While the issue selection for Topps has, so far, been lackluster, they're making far less.

EDIT: I'll also add I have only picked up base and parallels for my c-tier pc character from Topps, but 3. the quality has been far better than UD. It doesn't really factor in with sketchcards, but they do have that going for them.

1. We MUST be looking at different cards or have vastly different taste, haha. I'm not seeing a big jump in quality, like at all. Are there less of them? Yup. Does that mean that this:



From Topps Mint(Meeks), should sell for $4,000? When this:



From 18MM(Meeks) sells for $1,600~? That was his previous high, over the past 3 years, before the Mint card sold.

So, does something being harder to hit really negate the fact that most of these guys have hundreds of sketches floating around out there?

One instance I will yield you is if a GOOD artist is NEW in a set. In that instance, I get prices being higher than usual. What we're seeing isn't that though. I don't see an uptick in quality. I do understand they're harder to hit but again, why does that matter...to the tune of $2,400 MORE, for a sketch that's not 1/10th as well done?

Maybe you can answer those questions. I can not.

2. Less doesn't always equal better. I'm all for MORE quality cuts, which UD does make, so people can actually collect them. It sounds like you might prefer:



That "1/1" Doom for $6,000 over:



That /65 for $150, the absolute HIGHEST a Doom cut has sold for from UD.

3. The quality of the card is better? You might be right on this one, as I have had 0 Topps Chrome cards in my hands. Are you comparing apples to apples though? Like Topps Chrome quality to say Marvel Platinum? Cause if TC is better quality that Platinum, which has a CRAZY high Gem 10 rate via PSA...then cool, the quality is better