What will it take for Joker to be in top 10 conversation?

[Zedlaw]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Jokic needs another ring at minimum to be in the convo w/ Hakeem.


1 title, 1 FMVP, 3x MVP, 4x 1st team

vs

2 titles, 2 FMVP, 1x MVP, 2x DPOY, 3x blk leader, 2x reb leader, 6x 1st team all nba, 5x 1st team all defense.

The recency bias on these forums is so crazy.

If you put these 2 blind resumes next to each other nobody is saying they're in the same tier.

I feel comfortable giving Jokic 4x OPOY awards. Not sure why defense gets extra billing in these arguments. I find their situations fairly comparable and Jokic with the much bigger peak, I certainly wouldn’t put Jokic ahead without more all nbas.