Did WhatNot Open a FAKE 1986-87 Fleer Basketball Box at The National?

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

We're talking about 2 different things. I'm talking about older wax boxes in general. They weren't factory sealed. It's practically impossible to determine if all wax packs are original to the box. All you can do is base that on pack condition and consistent wrapping. Otherwise, you're just taking the word of whomever you are buying them from.

The advantage of 1986 Fleer Basketball is sequencing. Every box is going to have at least 3 Jordan 57's and 3 sticker sets. No less. That's 33 packs with the 11-card sticker checklist. The remaining 3 packs could contain anything. From another Jordan 57 to another Jordan sticker.

In general, we've always discussed, on these very forums, that counterfeit cards will get better over time simply due to technology. I wonder how much this is more about scammers improving their wax reseal technology than anything else. Believing someone took an iron to the back of these wax packs today as they did in the 80's is foolish. We've already seen fake wrapped boxes in 2012 Prizm and National Treasures. It's only going to get worse.

You stated you don’t see an issue as long as the box meets the criteria you outlined above. Having the appropriate number of each card in the proper order does not exclude the box from being sealed. The intelligent scammer would reseal a box with all the right cards, in the right order, but swap out the big names for lesser to mid-grade conditioned cards.