Wander Franco Rookie Card Debate (2021 Bowman's Best vs. 2022 RC logo cards)

[BigSeph]

Originally Posted by kordell1

I asked multiple times with no answer. Beckett defines 2002 Bowman Draft Joey Votto, Greinke, etc... in a prospect only set with BD numbering as Rookie Cards, yet all post 2005 Bowman Draft Prospect only sets are not considered Rookie Cards. What changed?

Nothing. They were in a base checklist shared with "veterans." That's why 02 Votto is a rookie card. The whole checklist was "BDPXXX" he wasn't separated as a prospect card. 2002 BDPP isn't Miguel Cabrera's rookie card. It isn't Justin Morneau's rookie card. They're in the same checklist as Votto.

http://www.baseballcardpedia.com/ind..._%26_Prospects

Could it be that new rules came out in 2006 stating that Rookie Cards could not be in a prospect only set, needed MLBPA licensing, required differing design than prospect cards, and players had to have big league experience and/or be on a 40 man roster?

This is a codified agreement on production practices between a licensee and a license-grantor. There were no "new rules" about rookie cards, the MLBPA and Topps (and I believe Upper Deck at the time too) agreed about checklists for the products they produced.

I understand that not everyone agrees with the 2006 change, but it did happen and seems to be the reason Beckett changed their view on Bowman brand prospect sets

Beckett didn't change anything. If the prospects were included in a base set shared with veterans then that was their rookie card.

Go back in history, through all of the checklists, and let me know when MANUFACTURERS started making 2 sets within the same product, one containing prospects who hadn't debuted yet, and another containing veterans or prospects who had debuted. Like magic the reason for this change will appear to you.

yet decided to change again specifically for 2021 BB which did not meet all those new criteria.

The MLBPA screwed Topps, who then was forced to sell their baseball segment of the company to Fanatics. After getting every single checklist right for 15 years they got one wrong and were about to get another one wrong before 21 Bowman Heritage got memory-holed. What are the odds.

And who wanted the checklists done that way? Was it Topps because after all Bowman was "home of the rookie card" but they were tired of that marketing ploy, so they wanted to make "home of the rookie card" S1 or Update?

How many 1st Bowman cards prior to 2006 are Rookie Cards and how many after? Seems very inconsistent and strange. Maybe Cracknell has a huge stack of 21BB too.

Do me one favor.

Just calm your mind and look carefully at the 2 exhibits below:

Look at this checklist for 2005 Bowman:
http://www.baseballcardpedia.com/index.php/2005_Bowman

Look at this checklist for 2006 Bowman:
http://baseballcardpedia.com/index.php/2006_Bowman

Do you notice anything different about the checklists?

Did BECKETT change anything or did the card manufacturer?

So why are you pretending that Beckett has been anything but consistent?