Charlie Barokas: Mercer Island WA, Ebay: manontherock, is a CARD TRIMMER (PSA Graded)

corndog · 01-25-2020, 10:06 AM

47 year old Charles "Charlie" Barokas has been buying and selling for 20 years under his primary Ebay ID of manontherock.
He has lived on Mercer Island in the State of Washington (next to Seattle) for many years.

Ebay ID: manontherock (masked: e***o) - VCP masked ID: c***t
Ebay ID: charlise2014 (masked e***0) - VCP masked ID: c***l
The c***l masked ID has been confirmed as being tied to Barokas by being intermingled around c***t purchased cards when searching through his PSA submission cert runs.

Barokas sells cards through his Ebay account manontherock, consigned through probstein123 and also through online auction houses.
Research has shown that many of the cards that he has submitted for grading are resubmissions of purchased cards that have been removed
from their slabs with no discernable evidence of alteration. The majority of those resubs are bumped in grade and the profits when sold are tremendous.
All cards discovered have been graded by PSA.

One of the distinct differences encountered that separates him from other known card doctor submitters is the very quick turnaround times by PSA.
From 2015 until just a few months ago Barokas' usual time span from initial purchase, crackout, trim, PSA grading and sale through consignment
was 4 to 5 weeks. He wasted no time getting cards resold.

Over the years Charlie Barokas has been accused or suspected of trimming cards by collectors. There are inferences to this on the Net54 forum.
Below is a Net54 snip from 2006 where Charlie Barokas responds to one of the accusations.
The red box is profound in that he took his own advice.

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Establishing that masked VCP ID c***t is linked to Barokas' manontherock Ebay ID:

The following card is an example of Charlie Barokas using his main Ebay account of manontherock to both purchase the card and sell the same card.
The card was purchased on 10/21/15, cracked out and regraded with a bump in grade, and then sold from his Ebay store in the short time span of only 25 days.
Most of the cards tracked through research have fast turnaround times as well. As with many of his cards, this card appears to be a resub only.
And like most of his resubs, it received a grade bump resulting in a substantial profit.

PSA Cert #24921976

1950 Bowman Walter Barnes #61 PSA 9

Value gain of $421.23

This card was purchased by masked VCP ID c***t (Charlie Barokas) from Ebay seller www.stevenovella.com as a PSA 8 for $78.77 on October 21, 2015.
VCP snip:

Same card was sold by Ebay seller manontherock (Charlie Barokas) as a PSA 9 for $500.00 on November 15, 2015.
VCP snip:

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Card appears to be a crack and resubmit grade bump.

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Trimmed cards:

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PSA Cert #42504278

PSA Set Registry: Vintage Corvette - 1951 Bowman

1951 Bowman Billy Cox #224

Value gain of $443.51

This card was purchased by masked VCP ID c***t (Charlie Barokas) from Ebay seller uncommons as a PSA 8 for $71.49 on December 17, 2018.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...24/69751/PSA/8

Same card was sold by probstein123 as a PSA 9 for $515.00 on April 04, 2019.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...24/69751/PSA/9

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed right and bottom edges.

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PSA Cert #42111628

PSA Set Registry: none

1950 Bowman Tobin Rote #81 - Population 1 of 4 - none higher

Value gain of $1,974.00

This card was purchased by masked VCP ID c***t (Charlie Barokas) from Ebay seller teri781 as a PSA 6 for $35.00 on March 27, 2018.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...1/101252/PSA/6

Same card was sold by probstein123 as a PSA 9 for $2,009.00 on November 25, 2018.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...1/101252/PSA/9

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed top edge.

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PSA Cert #26930264

PSA Set Registry: none

1952 Bowman Large Gene Ronzani #135

Value gain of $1,754.99

This card was purchased by masked VCP ID c***t (Charlie Barokas) from Ebay seller gregmorriscards as a PSA 7 for $645.01 on February 13, 2017.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...5/100778/PSA/7

Same card was sold by Heritage Auctions as a PSA 8 for $2,400.00 on May 12, 2017.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...5/100778/PSA/8

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed bottom edge.

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PSA Cert #42111631

PSA Set Registry: none

1950 Bowman Dante Lavelli #78 - Population 1 of 7 - none higher

Value gain of $2,909.00

This card was purchased by masked VCP ID c***l (Charlie Barokas) from Ebay seller teri781 as a PSA 8 for $380.84 on April 25, 2018.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...8/154966/PSA/8

Same card was sold by probstein123 as a PSA 9 for $3,289.84 on November 25, 2018.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...8/154966/PSA/9

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed left edge.

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01-25-2020, 10:06 AM	#1
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 18,692	Charlie Barokas: Mercer Island WA, Ebay: manontherock, is a CARD TRIMMER (PSA Graded) 47 year old Charles "Charlie" Barokas has been buying and selling for 20 years under his primary Ebay ID of manontherock. He has lived on Mercer Island in the State of Washington (next to Seattle) for many years. Ebay ID: manontherock (masked: e*o) - VCP masked ID: ct Ebay ID: charlise2014 (masked e0) - VCP masked ID: cl The cl masked ID has been confirmed as being tied to Barokas by being intermingled around ct purchased cards when searching through his PSA submission cert runs. Barokas sells cards through his Ebay account manontherock, consigned through probstein123 and also through online auction houses. Research has shown that many of the cards that he has submitted for grading are resubmissions of purchased cards that have been removed from their slabs with no discernable evidence of alteration. The majority of those resubs are bumped in grade and the profits when sold are tremendous. All cards discovered have been graded by PSA. One of the distinct differences encountered that separates him from other known card doctor submitters is the very quick turnaround times by PSA. From 2015 until just a few months ago Barokas' usual time span from initial purchase, crackout, trim, PSA grading and sale through consignment was 4 to 5 weeks. He wasted no time getting cards resold. Over the years Charlie Barokas has been accused or suspected of trimming cards by collectors. There are inferences to this on the Net54 forum. Below is a Net54 snip from 2006 where Charlie Barokas responds to one of the accusations. The red box is profound in that he took his own advice. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________* Establishing that masked VCP ID ct is linked to Barokas' manontherock Ebay ID:* The following card is an example of Charlie Barokas using his main Ebay account of manontherock to both purchase the card and sell the same card. The card was purchased on 10/21/15, cracked out and regraded with a bump in grade, and then sold from his Ebay store in the short time span of only 25 days. Most of the cards tracked through research have fast turnaround times as well. As with many of his cards, this card appears to be a resub only. And like most of his resubs, it received a grade bump resulting in a substantial profit. PSA Cert #24921976 1950 Bowman Walter Barnes #61 PSA 9 Value gain of $421.23 This card was purchased by masked VCP ID ct (Charlie Barokas)* from Ebay seller www.stevenovella.com as a PSA 8 for $78.77 on October 21, 2015. VCP snip: Same card was sold by Ebay seller manontherock (Charlie Barokas) as a PSA 9 for $500.00 on November 15, 2015. VCP snip: Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Card appears to be a crack and resubmit grade bump. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Trimmed cards: ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PSA Cert #42504278 PSA Set Registry: Vintage Corvette - 1951 Bowman 1951 Bowman Billy Cox #224 Value gain of $443.51 This card was purchased by masked VCP ID ct (Charlie Barokas)* from Ebay seller uncommons as a PSA 8 for $71.49 on December 17, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...24/69751/PSA/8 Same card was sold by probstein123 as a PSA 9 for $515.00 on April 04, 2019. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...24/69751/PSA/9 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red boxes identify trimmed right and bottom edges. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PSA Cert #42111628 PSA Set Registry: none 1950 Bowman Tobin Rote #81 - Population 1 of 4 - none higher Value gain of $1,974.00 This card was purchased by masked VCP ID ct (Charlie Barokas)* from Ebay seller teri781 as a PSA 6 for $35.00 on March 27, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...1/101252/PSA/6 Same card was sold by probstein123 as a PSA 9 for $2,009.00 on November 25, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...1/101252/PSA/9 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red box identifies trimmed top edge. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PSA Cert #26930264 PSA Set Registry: none 1952 Bowman Large Gene Ronzani #135 Value gain of $1,754.99 This card was purchased by masked VCP ID ct (Charlie Barokas)* from Ebay seller gregmorriscards as a PSA 7 for $645.01 on February 13, 2017. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...5/100778/PSA/7 Same card was sold by Heritage Auctions as a PSA 8 for $2,400.00 on May 12, 2017. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...5/100778/PSA/8 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red box identifies trimmed bottom edge. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PSA Cert #42111631 PSA Set Registry: none 1950 Bowman Dante Lavelli #78 - Population 1 of 7 - none higher Value gain of $2,909.00 This card was purchased by masked VCP ID cl (Charlie Barokas)* from Ebay seller teri781 as a PSA 8 for $380.84 on April 25, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...8/154966/PSA/8 Same card was sold by probstein123 as a PSA 9 for $3,289.84 on November 25, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...8/154966/PSA/9 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red box identifies trimmed left edge. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal. Last edited by corndog; 01-25-2020 at 12:52 PM.