Is Kyle Schwarber a HOFer?

[bubbs11]

He's my favorite player so I'm a Schwarber-apologist for certain. That said: no.

However, he seems to find his way onto teams with fanbases that attach themselves to his personality/ performance and he also seems to perform memorably in big moments.

His career has always been one giant antipode

He's terrible on defense, but has a good accurate arm
He strikes out too much, but also walks a lot
He drives in runs, but only (seemingly) from the leadoff spot
He's Slow, but wins America free tacos and rarely hits into double plays
Low batting average, high OPS
Never gets hurt, unless it's season ending

Anyone can take one side of what his metrics say he is and formulate their opinion of him.

At the end of the day I'll take the guy who the other guys say is the guy. Everywhere he goes, teammates rave about him, he's almost always playing late into the post-season, and he just seems to make it happen in the moment.

TL;DR: hall of fame: no. hall of memorable: yeah

[ironfireman]

Originally Posted by bubbs11

TL;DR: hall of fame: no. hall of memorable: yeah

And really Schwarbs doesn't need to be a HOF to be collectable. Imagine if the Phillies win it all this year and Schwarber hits a game/series winner. 2 rings with 2 big fanbases and a guy who hit memorable monster dongs (sorry).

[itsbaytime]

Looks like his Hall of Fame resume might fall just short now. That NLCS MVP he had locked up is really going to hurt him.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by itsbaytime

Looks like his Hall of Fame resume might fall just short now. That NLCS MVP he had locked up is really going to hurt him.

It's okay, he still had .095 WPA tonight, that's the only stat that matters

How often do they hand out MVP of a series to a player on the losing team? Asking for a friend

[jhssketchcards]

So… in 9 years:
career WAR of 11.9
2 All Star Appearances
1 Silver Slugger
Highest MVP vote was 16th in 2022

Great postseason resume no doubt.

But my god a HOFer?

Bernie Williams has a career .297 AVG, 4x WS champs, 4x GG, 2.336 hits and 22 postseason HR.
And he’s NOT a HOFer.

If there were a special wing at Cooperstown for Legends of October then Schwarber def be there.

The only way Schwarber gets in the HOF is buying a ticket or a free tour.


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[vwnut13]

Schwarber would go right next to Harold Baines'... jock strap.

[OhioLawyerF5]

It's so hilarious to sit back and watch this argument unfold. You have two groups arguing against each other but not even arguing the same debate. The one group seems to think the discussion is whether Schwarber is currently in the discussion for the HOF or that he is currently on the HOF track. They are arguing against the other group that says, he is not on a HOF track now, but if by some miracle he compiles enough career home runs and post season accomplishments he might have a slim chance to get some consideration. Those two positions are not in contradiction to one another.

[BoSoxFan1999]

Guess it's a good time to pick up a Schwarber Tacofractor for like 95% off prices from a week ago. LOL

[HeritageKing]

Heating up. 8 HR’s and 17 RBI’s. Hitting moon shots. Acuna who?

[HeritageKing]

Schwarbs went head to head against Teoscar this weekend and just hit a few moonshots showing everyone who really should have been in the All Star game this year. It would have been nice to have him in the derby too.

[Wolverine]

I like Schwarber, but am I the only one that sees James Corden every time I look at him?

[HeritageKing]

Can James hit them off the second deck in Philly?

[HeritageKing]

The Dodgers better move the wall back if they face the Phillies in the playoffs. In case you fell asleep Kyle hit 3 home runs last night, one to right, one to left, and one to dead center. Ohtani who?

[jhssketchcards]

In his illustrious 100 season career…

Zero seasons above 150 hits
Zero seasons above 30 2B
Zero seasons above .270 BA
Zero seasons above .960 OPS
Zero seasons above 300 TB
Zero seasons above .375 OBA
Zero Silver Sluggers
Zero seasons above 4.0 WAR
1 season above 100 RBI
1 season above 100 BB
2 seasons above 45 HR
2 All-Star Game selections
2 seasons MVP vote getter (never above 15th)
3 seasons above 150 G
Career 15.2 WAR

Unless he goes on an unreal stretch of 6-8 years the answer is no. Math nerds would have to do Olympic Gold Medal gymnastics to put him in the HOF.


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[premium1981]

1st ballot HOFer for sure. I would rank him #1 all time hitter for players whose last name begins with Schw. This is a fact that cannot be disputed. He also has stats from previous years, and current stats, and will have future stats. Add all of these stats together and you will end up with cumulative stats. And we all know that everyone loves cumulative stats. So the only question at this point will be how many of those cumulative stats are better as a whole than they would have been by themselves.

[nmh20]

You won’t find a bigger Schwarber fan than me and there’s no shot he’s getting into the Hall. That said, returning from the ACL tear to go 7-17 in the ’16 World Series including 3 hits in Game 7 is the stuff of legends.

The post-season track record, the light tower power, the vibes – he and Bryce Harper are must-see TV in the playoffs for this Cubs fan.

[Archangel1775]

He'll go down as a team legend for those World Series team, so from a hobby perspective, he'll always have value.

[Mightymango]

Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

In his illustrious 100 season career…

Zero seasons above 150 hits
Zero seasons above 30 2B
Zero seasons above .270 BA
Zero seasons above .960 OPS
Zero seasons above 300 TB
Zero seasons above .375 OBA
Zero Silver Sluggers
Zero seasons above 4.0 WAR
1 season above 100 RBI
1 season above 100 BB
2 seasons above 45 HR
2 All-Star Game selections
2 seasons MVP vote getter (never above 15th)
3 seasons above 150 G
Career 15.2 WAR

Unless he goes on an unreal stretch of 6-8 years the answer is no. Math nerds would have to do Olympic Gold Medal gymnastics to put him in the HOF.


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Those stats and career WAR tell me no. The old school thinking I have is just looking at his career BA, of .230. He would need to improve a lot of other stats besides that to even be close.

Only three players with a sub .260 BA are in the hall, and they are all still over 250.

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

In his illustrious 100 season career…

Zero seasons above 150 hits
Zero seasons above 30 2B
Zero seasons above .270 BA
Zero seasons above .960 OPS
Zero seasons above 300 TB
Zero seasons above .375 OBA
Zero Silver Sluggers
Zero seasons above 4.0 WAR
1 season above 100 RBI
1 season above 100 BB
2 seasons above 45 HR
2 All-Star Game selections
2 seasons MVP vote getter (never above 15th)
3 seasons above 150 G
Career 15.2 WAR

Unless he goes on an unreal stretch of 6-8 years the answer is no. Math nerds would have to do Olympic Gold Medal gymnastics to put him in the HOF.


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Pretty shocking he's never won a Silver Slugger.

[JoshMN]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

Pretty shocking he's never won a Silver Slugger.

I’m confused. Are we still talking about Kyle Schwarber? He won a silver slugger in 2022.

[jhssketchcards]

Originally Posted by premium1981

1st ballot HOFer for sure. I would rank him #1 all time hitter for players whose last name begins with Schw. This is a fact that cannot be disputed. He also has stats from previous years, and current stats, and will have future stats. Add all of these stats together and you will end up with cumulative stats. And we all know that everyone loves cumulative stats. So the only question at this point will be how many of those cumulative stats are better as a whole than they would have been by themselves.

The only cumulative stats that he will have are HR and Strikeouts. After 10 years he has 632 RBI, so he would have to have some monster seasons to get past 1,000. He’s 31 now and will turn 32 right before next season. Lets say he hits another 15 HR. That would end his season at 288 HR. He’d be 212 HR from 500. If he plays 5 more years he’d have to hit 42 HR per year to get that mark. It’s possible, considering the DH rule, he plays 6-7 more years at decent-good health but hitting 40 HR per year during all of those seasons is going to be tough for a guy who has played 150 games or more 2 times in 10 years. He may get to 500 HR+ but the rest of his career stats are good but not great.
That being said the modern baseball writers could put him in eventually. But with a career that will likely end with sub 1500 hits, sub 1500 runs and sub 1500 RBI for a power hitter will be tough.
He’s about 400 Ks behind Killebrew now, and even Killebrew had over 2.000 hits and 1500 RBI.

Among Schwarber’s peers that debuted around the same, and have been bounced around as possible HOFers time you have:

Mookie Betts 68.7
Jose Ramirez 49.8 WAR
Fransisco Lindor 47.1 WAR
Carlos Correa 44.2 WAR
Corey Seager 35.8 WAR
Trea Turner 35.3 WAR
Jose Abreu 30.3 WAR
Kris Bryant 27.7 WAR

Of that list Betts is the only HOF 1st ballot guy followed by Ramirez and Lindor earning 1st ballot nods if they continue their paths. Correa, Seager and Turner are all similar with Seager getting an edge with multiple WS rings in LA and Texas.
Abreu and Bryant are toast.

Schwarber has 15.2 WAR. He’s fun to watch and provides huge HR power but other than that he’s a one trick pony.


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[LCM1223]

Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

The only cumulative stats that he will have are HR and Strikeouts. After 10 years he has 632 RBI, so he would have to have some monster seasons to get past 1,000. He’s 31 now and will turn 32 right before next season. Lets say he hits another 15 HR. That would end his season at 288 HR. He’d be 212 HR from 500. If he plays 5 more years he’d have to hit 42 HR per year to get that mark. It’s possible, considering the DH rule, he plays 6-7 more years at decent-good health but hitting 40 HR per year during all of those seasons is going to be tough for a guy who has played 150 games or more 2 times in 10 years. He may get to 500 HR+ but the rest of his career stats are good but not great.
That being said the modern baseball writers could put him in eventually. But with a career that will likely end with sub 1500 hits, sub 1500 runs and sub 1500 RBI for a power hitter will be tough.
He’s about 400 Ks behind Killebrew now, and even Killebrew had over 2.000 hits and 1500 RBI.

Among Schwarber’s peers that debuted around the same, and have been bounced around as possible HOFers time you have:

Mookie Betts 68.7
Jose Ramirez 49.8 WAR
Fransisco Lindor 47.1 WAR
Carlos Correa 44.2 WAR
Corey Seager 35.8 WAR
Trea Turner 35.3 WAR
Jose Abreu 30.3 WAR
Kris Bryant 27.7 WAR

Of that list Betts is the only HOF 1st ballot guy followed by Ramirez and Lindor earning 1st ballot nods if they continue their paths. Correa, Seager and Turner are all similar with Seager getting an edge with multiple WS rings in LA and Texas.
Abreu and Bryant are toast.

Schwarber has 15.2 WAR. He’s fun to watch and provides huge HR power but other than that he’s a one trick pony.


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[HeritageKing]

Can someone who watched the Phillies/Dodgers series tell me who the better lead off hitter was in this series…Schwarbs or Ohtani. Thanks

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by HeritageKing

Can someone who watched the Phillies/Dodgers series tell me who the better lead off hitter was in this series…Schwarbs or Ohtani. Thanks

This is magnificent.

[bub838]

Originally Posted by HeritageKing

Can someone who watched the Phillies/Dodgers series tell me who the better lead off hitter was in this series…Schwarbs or Ohtani. Thanks

Need Stifle to weigh in.