Julio Rodriguez - Page 103

LVDan · 12-30-2022, 11:15 AM

May need to ask the intern for clarification

The answers to this and all of life's 2022 Topps mysteries should lie inside this important documentation folder.

rngrdanny22 · 12-30-2022, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by rfgilles

Wrong. Both Julio cards are refractors. That is the whole point of this. Topps messed up.

Haven't you put me on Ignore like 3 times now?

Here is another pic of the Lindor /373 silver chrome, that I am kindly providing you as a parting gift. There is no rainbow because it isn't a refractor.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/33455392146...Bk9SR5T1p7ysYQ

I'm not positive the /373 Julio is actually a refractor. I think it's just a poor picture with some secondary light source making the bottom-right look "refractory".

PumpnDumpling · 12-30-2022, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

I'm not positive the /373 Julio is actually a refractor. I think it's just a poor picture with some secondary light source making the bottom-right look "refractory".

This ^^^^, not sure what the long islander is going on about

zworykin · 12-30-2022, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

I'm not positive the /373 Julio is actually a refractor. I think it's just a poor picture with some secondary light source making the bottom-right look "refractory".

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Originally Posted by PumpnDumpling

This ^^^^, not sure what the long islander is going on about

Indeed, but please don't call him that, as it makes the rest of us who live on Long Island look bad by association.

rfgilles · 12-30-2022, 11:24 AM

Clearly none of you have seen a silver chrome /373 in hand. Go look up other Julio /373 on eBay and notice they all have rainbow finishes (they shouldn't). They should be a dull grey, like I generously provided in my pic of Lindor.

I tried with you jabronis.

Strong Island for life.

rfgilles · 12-30-2022, 11:42 AM

Another /373 Julio off ebay. Notice the glaring rainbow.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/11563073605...Bk9SR9S1qL6sYQ

PumpnDumpling · 12-30-2022, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rfgilles

Another /373 Julio off ebay. Notice the glaring rainbow.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/11563073605...Bk9SR9S1qL6sYQ

So it appears Rf is on to something, looking at ebay some of the /373's have a refractor finish while others clearly do not

In the low series, the silver /373's can appear both non ref and ref, with the refractor finish limited to the non bordered area on some or the entire card on others while in high number the finish is on the whole card??

Seems like the new era of QC is producing some odd balls

rfgilles · 12-30-2022, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PumpnDumpling

So it appears Rf is on to something, looking at ebay some of the /373's have a refractor finish while others clearly do not

In the low series, the silver /373's can appear both non ref and ref, with the refractor finish limited to the non bordered area on some or the entire card on others while in high number the finish is on the whole card??

Seems like the new era of QC is producing some odd balls

Apology accepted. Thank you.

NYRE2PECT · 12-30-2022, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LVDan

May need to ask the intern for clarification

The answers to this and all of life's 2022 Topps mysteries should lie inside this important documentation folder.

You ain't lying...and I seemed to have lost my Day Planner as well.

Yaga · 12-30-2022, 12:12 PM

Isn't it just that 673 is a refractor and 373 is a darker silver refractor?

MiamiMarlinsFan · 12-30-2022, 12:14 PM

You guys are making this seem a lot more complicated than it is. There’s two types of refractors in this photo: the regular one and the silver. When looking at the in-hands the silvers are a lot darker and less shiny.

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Yaga · 12-30-2022, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

You guys are making this seem a lot more complicated than it is. There’s two types of refractors in this photo: the regular one and the silver. When looking at the in-hands the silvers are a lot darker and less shiny.

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Ya exactly... not sure why there's so much confusion.

Which do you like better in hand?

MiamiMarlinsFan · 12-30-2022, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaga

Ya exactly... not sure why there's so much confusion.

Which do you like better in hand?

The /673 refractor and it’s not even close. I have the Oneil Cruz silver as well, and they just look drab.

rfgilles · 12-30-2022, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

You guys are making this seem a lot more complicated than it is. There’s two types of refractors in this photo: the regular one and the silver. When looking at the in-hands the silvers are a lot darker and less shiny.

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The Jazz are from the regular Heritage set and is how it should be.

What guys are missing is that isn't the case for Julio in the heritage high.

1) The /373 are not supposed to be refractors they are supposed to be regular chrome, there should be no rainbow in the grey border. If you see a rainbow finish/reflection, it is a refractor.

2) There is a rainbow finish for the Julio /373.

Rainbow finish in Julio /373 = Topps messed up.

That is the part that isn't complicated.

jhssketchcards · 12-30-2022, 12:28 PM

So how long into the season so think it will take before Julio’s Update Base RC gets to $20? What kind of start do you guys think he’ll have to have?

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MiamiMarlinsFan · 12-30-2022, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rfgilles

The Jazz are from the regular Heritage set and is how it should be.

What guys are missing is that isn't the case for Julio in the heritage high.

1) The /373 are not refractors they are regular chrome, there should be no rainbow in the grey border. If you see a rainbow finish/reflection, it is a refractor.

2) There is a rainbow finish for the Julio /373.

Rainbow finish in Julio /373 = Topps messed up.

That is the part that isn't complicated.

Ah, I didn’t know that.

…the “Topps” messing up part isn’t surprising.

PumpnDumpling · 12-30-2022, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

You guys are making this seem a lot more complicated than it is. There’s two types of refractors in this photo: the regular one and the silver. When looking at the in-hands the silvers are a lot darker and less shiny.

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From perusing ebay (nothing in-hand) it very much does seem that some of the low series silvers have NO refractor finish at all, while others have just the outer or inner area ref'd and some have the whole card ref'd, while high series has the entire card ref'd on pretty much all i have looked at

rfgilles · 12-30-2022, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

Ah, I didn’t know that.

…the “Topps” messing up part isn’t surprising.

Somewhat related, the Topps Chrome pink refractors look identical to the numbered /399 magenta refractors.

Just pure laziness on Topps's part.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 12-30-2022, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

So how long into the season so think it will take before Julio’s Update Base RC gets to $20? What kind of start do you guys think he’ll have to have?

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We’re taking about raw base? I see it on eBay now for $5. I think it stays there for the foreseeable future. What would he need to do to get it up to a staggering $20? Hit 100 HRs, while batting .402, and star alongside The Rock in a blockbuster buddy comedy.

Yaga · 12-30-2022, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rfgilles

The Jazz are from the regular Heritage set and is how it should be.

What guys are missing is that isn't the case for Julio in the heritage high.

1) The /373 are not supposed to be refractors they are supposed to be regular chrome, there should be no rainbow in the grey border. If you see a rainbow finish/reflection, it is a refractor.

2) There is a rainbow finish for the Julio /373.

Rainbow finish in Julio /373 = Topps messed up.

That is the part that isn't complicated.

I'm confused though... say I look at someone in the low series like Tatis. His 373 are all darker silver refractors as well, every one of them.

I thought it was 999 chrome, 673 refractor, 373 darker silver refractor

towerymt · 12-30-2022, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rfgilles

Clearly none of you have seen a silver chrome /373 in hand. Go look up other Julio /373 on eBay and notice they all have rainbow finishes (they shouldn't). They should be a dull grey, like I generously provided in my pic of Lindor.

I tried with you jabronis.

Strong Island for life.

Looks like not none refractoring

I see some refractoring. The lesser refractor. Did this replace the 'silver metal' parallel?

We can hopefully all agree that Topps is lazy.

Sdog77 · 12-30-2022, 12:49 PM

I'm not well versed with Heritage, but are the base cards not paper?

I see a Chrome card and a Refractor, making them both parallels to the paper version.

rfgilles · 12-30-2022, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaga

I'm confused though... say I look at someone in the low series like Tatis. His 373 are all darker silver refractors as well, every one of them.

I thought it was 999 chrome, 673 refractor, 373 darker silver refractor

The 373 are Tatis are chrome and not refractors. You won't see any rainbow in the grey drab border.

Yaga · 12-30-2022, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rfgilles

The 373 are Tatis are chrome and not refractors. You won't see any rainbow in the grey drab border.

Aren't these refractors? They all have the rainbow effect in the main part and the borders

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rfgilles · 12-30-2022, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by towerymt

Looks like not none refractoring

I see some refractoring. The lesser refractor. Did this replace the 'silver metal' parallel?

We can hopefully all agree that Topps is lazy.

You don't see the "refractoring" in the grey border. Only in the image because of the "pebbling"

12-30-2022, 11:15 AM	#2551
LVDan Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 17,670	Julio Rodriguez May need to ask the intern for clarification The answers to this and all of life's 2022 Topps mysteries should lie inside this important documentation folder. __________________ So we cheated and we lied and we tested. And we never failed to fail; it was the easiest thing to do.

12-30-2022, 11:24 AM	#2555
rfgilles Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 4,349	Clearly none of you have seen a silver chrome /373 in hand. Go look up other Julio /373 on eBay and notice they all have rainbow finishes (they shouldn't). They should be a dull grey, like I generously provided in my pic of Lindor. I tried with you jabronis. Strong Island for life. Last edited by rfgilles; 12-30-2022 at 12:10 PM.

12-30-2022, 11:42 AM	#2556
rfgilles Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 4,349	Another /373 Julio off ebay. Notice the glaring rainbow. https://www.ebay.com/itm/11563073605...Bk9SR9S1qL6sYQ

12-30-2022, 12:12 PM	#2560
Yaga Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 7,525	Isn't it just that 673 is a refractor and 373 is a darker silver refractor?

12-30-2022, 12:14 PM	#2561
MiamiMarlinsFan Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Florida Posts: 13,939	You guys are making this seem a lot more complicated than it is. There’s two types of refractors in this photo: the regular one and the silver. When looking at the in-hands the silvers are a lot darker and less shiny. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

12-30-2022, 12:28 PM	#2565
jhssketchcards Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 11,442 jhssketchcards2012	So how long into the season so think it will take before Julio’s Update Base RC gets to $20? What kind of start do you guys think he’ll have to have? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12-30-2022, 12:49 PM	#2572
Sdog77 Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 720	I'm not well versed with Heritage, but are the base cards not paper? I see a Chrome card and a Refractor, making them both parallels to the paper version.