Any idea why Felicity Jones auto prices dropped while Ridley stays high?

[Vargaman]

Hi all,

Being sincere here, I've noticed Jones auto prices have come down quite a bit from week 1 of release. I don't know the numbers for the base autos, I'd assume 100-200, and then there's 65 among the numbered ones and plates just for Rogue One S1.

Ridley has signed for 4 sets now (FA S1, FA Chrome, MW2, Tek 2) and has had probably 40-50 or so per release (except high tek 2).

Now I get there is the factor that Ridley is the new face of this current trilogy, but that also means she'll be signing more and more. Boyega, while not as big of a fan favorite, dropped fairly fast down to $200 and below range.

With Jones, she's in a one and done type standalone movie so it's much more unclear how long she'll continue to sign with Topps, let alone at such a high volume. That uncertainty should have kept her higher I'd have thought. There's also the fact that Jones is a bigger Hollywood name than Ridley, which should have kept her prices steady.

So is it just fandom here clinging to Ridley, or will her prices start to decline with Ep 8 around the corner? Was it the mass break at launch of R1 and ripper/flipper people who drove down Jones prices?

Thoughts?

[Spider-Fan]

I think people just have greater expectations of Ridley's role in "the universe"

[dd316]

Originally Posted by Spider-Fan

I think people just have greater expectations of Ridley's role in "the universe"

Agreed. As big a deal as Rogue One has been, Daisy will be the face of Star Wars for at least the next few years.

[slapnut63]

Originally Posted by Spider-Fan

I think people just have greater expectations of Ridley's role in "the universe"

+1
Jones is likely done with the universe as a main cast member

[IndySportsCards]

Originally Posted by dd316

Agreed. As big a deal as Rogue One has been, Daisy will be the face of Star Wars for at least the next few years.

Ding Ding Ding.. Felicity is a once and done.

[Ty Hope]

And her autos are much easier pulls than Daisy.

[jamesr]

Originally Posted by Ty Hope

And her autos are much easier pulls than Daisy.

And - presumably - stickers like the other R1 cards.

[Vargaman]

Originally Posted by Spider-Fan

I think people just have greater expectations of Ridley's role in "the universe"

I can only hope she keeps her current signing levels of /25 thru /1 autos at least.

It'll be disappointing if she starts dropping down to /10 and lower like Tek 2.

I'm also curious when she'll start signing her full name, that'll change the market as well.

[Cardsharc]

Agree 100% with other comments that was a one off movie she will probably keep singing future starwars products while daisy and adam driver and others may not or much more limited basically if u got a case u got a auto of her


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[richo]

As somebody said, Ridley is the face of Star Wars for the next 3-4 years at least.

Whatever happens to her signing, style, numbers etc, the first FA1 on card auto should always be a very special card. Look at the 30th autos of the big stars, if you can even find one...

[daviswr7]

Also Felicity Jones cards have yet to be issued? Live cards sell better then a redemption. That being said, if Felicity doesn't sign anymore after Series 1/2, you will def see an uptick in both this proudct and her autos

[Cujobyte]

Originally Posted by daviswr7

Also Felicity Jones cards have yet to be issued? Live cards sell better then a redemption. That being said, if Felicity doesn't sign anymore after Series 1/2, you will def see an uptick in both this proudct and her autos

+1000000

People are waiting to see how many she will sign for set 2. If she doesn't, or is limited, they'll go up.

Why isn't this just a discussion in Rogue 1 thread, instead of cluttering up what's already a cluttered non-sports section.

[Vargaman]

Originally Posted by Cujobyte

+1000000

People are waiting to see how many she will sign for set 2. If she doesn't, or is limited, they'll go up.

Why isn't this just a discussion in Rogue 1 thread, instead of cluttering up what's already a cluttered non-sports section.

Because this is comparing two signers and isn't in regards to just one product?

[GFD18]

Originally Posted by IndySportsCards

Ding Ding Ding.. Felicity is a once and done.

While I understand what you are saying, it is not *technically* correct. Felicity's contract was for more than one film I heard. The speculation is that she might appear in the Young Han Solo movie or another side storyline movie. She *could have* known Han as a smuggler.

[Cujobyte]

The real question is what will Felicity's auto be in 5 yrs? The completionist looking for all SW auto's will have to pay a pretty penny for her auto, if she's limited in set 2 and none others. In reality, Ian has signed more than Felicity at this point. So we shall see.

[Corky]

Originally Posted by GFD18

While I understand what you are saying, it is not *technically* correct. Felicity's contract was for more than one film I heard. The speculation is that she might appear in the Young Han Solo movie or another side storyline movie. She *could have* known Han as a smuggler.

I came across the same thing in a Hollywood Reporter, she supposedly has an sequel option for a Lucasfilm movie. Most people are leaning towards the Young Han Solo movie but apparently there is also speculation that a Young Luke Skywalker movie is also in the works that could include Felicity Jones. If you think about it that would be logical and they already have a start with Ewan McGregor, Jimmy Smits (if they want to include a young Leia), Joel Edgerton and Bonnie Piesse as the main characters.

[dd316]

Originally Posted by Cujobyte

The real question is what will Felicity's auto be in 5 yrs? The completionist looking for all SW auto's will have to pay a pretty penny for her auto, if she's limited in set 2 and none others. In reality, Ian has signed more than Felicity at this point. So we shall see.

There are plenty of all-encompassing sets that could include her in the future (Masterwork, High Tek, etc.), but it mostly depends on if she just moves on from Star Wars and doesn't look back. She seems pretty into it, though.

[hermanotarjeta]

It's simple, daisy is hotter😀

[slapnut63]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

It's simple, daisy is hotter😀

Hahaha

[jeterfan95]

It's completely the fact that she's presumably done in the SW universe. Felicity is young and already established as an actress, whereas Daisy certainly isn't. I think there's a higher ceiling for Felicity in terms of acting.

[Vargaman]

Originally Posted by Corky

I came across the same thing in a Hollywood Reporter, she supposedly has an sequel option for a Lucasfilm movie. Most people are leaning towards the Young Han Solo movie but apparently there is also speculation that a Young Luke Skywalker movie is also in the works that could include Felicity Jones. If you think about it that would be logical and they already have a start with Ewan McGregor, Jimmy Smits (if they want to include a young Leia), Joel Edgerton and Bonnie Piesse as the main characters.

I hope not. If she knew Luke then she'd have told him about the rebels and such and he wouldn't have been such a unknowing farmboy, he'd have had much more info and it changes the story.

I could see her maybe knowing a young Han, but that too would seem too shoehorned in to me. Unless Han will have a run in with Saw and Jyn while they're working on a mission. Perhaps the Rebels are working on destroying something from the Empire that Han and Lando are trying to steal for a bounty or smuggle? I don't see her being a major role in another movie though, perhaps a small cameo for a few minutes.

Lastly there's the possibility of a Jyn standalone movie for her years between a child and when she's recruited. I just don't see that being as feasible either. Her character is good, but R1 worked so well due to the whole crew having great chemistry. There's so many other characters they can/should explore more rather than delve into one of the newest created characters.

*spoiler alert**spoiler alert**spoiler alert*
I think with all the re-shoots and such, perhaps the end of R1 was to keep her alive with Cassian, but they decided that too, would break continuity since we never see them again despite them playing such major roles in the resistance.*spoiler alert**spoiler alert**spoiler alert* Hence keeping a sequel or future role in the books, which they may or may not use ever.

[HiltonL]

Originally Posted by jeterfan95

It's completely the fact that she's presumably done in the SW universe. Felicity is young and already established as an actress, whereas Daisy certainly isn't. I think there's a higher ceiling for Felicity in terms of acting.

Disagree. We've already hashed through the movies aspect of this topic. There hasn't been much discussion on how common the redemptions are in ROSO. Early cases sometimes had TWO redemptions in them. Heck, even I got a redemption in my case. I've only pulled one other redemption in my entire hobby "career" (Clone Wars: Rise of the Bounty Hunters, animator sketch), so if I pulled one, you know it's got to be common

If you layer that onto the idea that Felicity has an acting career outside of SW, and the potential (likelihood in my opinion) of being included as a full-run signer versus a limited signer like Ford (admittedly an extreme example) in future all-encompassing sets like Galactic Files Reborn, High-Tek and Masterwork, you begin to appreciate that the potential population of her autos across all of the hobby far outstrips the population of Daisy autos.

[aclben]

I agree with most points... i.e.

1) redemption vs. live card
2) not currently scarce
3) not the face of the franchise

I also think Rey's character was far more the focus of TFA than Jyn's character was in Rogue One... or at least, I don't think the character built as much of an emotional connection with fans/viewers as Rey did.

As a collector of Rey auto's, I also think the quantity of Rey auto's are so low that the market has been manipulated to some degree, or at least sellers are doing what collectors have always advised and not run too many of her auto cards as straight auctions versus high priced Buy It Now's...

A couple of other thoughts:

- because of the challenging nature of Tek and Masterwork, there are more collectors trying to put together the auto set... even a few of those cuts into the production of these sets pretty dramatically.

- not one of Daisy's Star Wars auto's is not an awesome looking card. TFA1 was on card, the Tek parallels are awesome, the Chrome's are gorgeous, etc. So far, we haven't seen Felicity Jones cards live but the chances that they are stickers is at least 75% I'd guess...

I disagree with the notion that Felicity Jones will likely sign more down the road, etc. More so than Daisy Ridley, Felicity Jones is an established award season actress (similar to Ewan McGregor's stature at the time he did the prequels). I tend to not thing actors in that demographic are frequent signers for trading cards. I don't see her as a Natalie Portman headliner but probably a Best Supporting Actress Oscar candidate for sure with the types of roles and critic reviews she gets. If anything, she'll distance herself from Star Wars more so than Daisy Ridley. And, i definitely don't see her doing the conference circuit...

None of us know for sure but I guess bottom line is, neither of these ladies are going to have $50 auto's anytime soon.

[aces]

Originally Posted by Corky

Most people are leaning towards the Young Han Solo movie but apparently there is also speculation that a Young Luke Skywalker movie is also in the works

I'm not sure how that would work, given that Luke's pretty young when we meet him, and he hasn't been anywhere or done much. Maybe Jyn could offer to sell Luke some power converters at Tosche Station.

[richo]

Young Luke Skywalker. lol

What's the films going to focus on?, crop farming?