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Old 07-28-2016, 10:27 PM   #2826
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Right, she's presidential.

I get it, you don't like her. You want a non politician.

I want someone that will do what they can to bring the country together, not one that will keep dividing us.
Not at all. I would elect Obama to another term over THIS. She is lying through her teeth. How can you believe any of this? How can people be so critical of Trump and turn a blind eye to this crap? Is it just the lesser of two evils to you?
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Not at all. I would elect Obama to another term over THIS. She is lying through her teeth. How can you believe any of this? How can people be so critical of Trump and turn a blind eye to this crap? Is it just the lesser of two evils to you?
Did you listen to both speeches? One was a speech about bringing the nation together to go stronger and the other was how we are in a horrible place and we need to drive more wedges. One shows how much they love the country and how she can grow it and expand on the past 8 years while the other says how the country is awful but he can make it great but won't say how.
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Did you listen to both speeches? One was a speech about bringing the nation together to go stronger and the other was how we are in a horrible place and we need to drive more wedges. One shows how much they love the country and how she can grow it and expand on the past 8 years while the other says how the country is awful but he can make it great but won't say how.

It's a freaking speech! Trump talks daily about making America stronger and getting rid of status quo.
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It's a freaking speech! Trump talks daily about making America stronger and getting rid of status quo.

No, he talks about making the country great but doesn't say how he will do ANYTHING. His platform is a sales tactic.


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It's a freaking speech! Trump talks daily about making America stronger and getting rid of status quo.
What are some of Trump's policies that he has explicitly stated besides getting rid of the muslims and building a wall?
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I voted twice for Obama. Have no issues admitting it, but no way in hell I vote for Clinton. Even my parents voted for Obama twice and they won't vote for Clinton. I know a lot of people that feel the same. If she wasn't a former First Lady, she'd be in a load of #@#@#@#@ right now.
I love reading things like this from such a small sample size.

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Bret Baier "half the country has decided who they are going to vote for, the other half of the country has decided who they are going to vote for. They are fighting for the little percentage left"
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"A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man you can trust with nuclear weapons."

Trump is like Kim Jong-Un, but with much smaller hands.
Really? Remind me, who killed american citizens again? I'm pretty sure it wasn't trump.... that being said I think he knows how to protect america better than hillary
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What are some of Trump's policies that he has explicitly stated besides getting rid of the muslims and building a wall?

There are 100+ pages here. Read them.
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This guy... have you considered the way you are acting may not be helping with people who are undecided? You come across like a prick.
You shouldn't base your decision on people on the Internet. Want to see a prick, listen to Trump. That's a real life prick.
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Bret Baier "half the country has decided who they are going to vote for, the other half of the country has decided who they are going to vote for. They are fighting for the little percentage left"
QFT.. And this is why this thread was unnecessary on a sports cards forum.
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QFT.. And this is why this thread was unnecessary on a sports cards forum.
I really don't know what "QFT" means. I just thought it was funny.

By the way, Hillary wearing white is a great subconscious move. She is going to position herself as the good side and paint trump as the dark side. Love that stuff.
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You shouldn't base your decision on people on the Internet. Want to see a prick, listen to Trump. That's a real life prick.
Truth. Trump is too wild.
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You shouldn't base your decision on people on the Internet. Want to see a prick, listen to Trump. That's a real life prick.
Instead of talking #@#@#@#@, why not educate these "uneducated" males.
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Did you listen to both speeches? One was a speech about bringing the nation together to go stronger and the other was how we are in a horrible place and we need to drive more wedges. One shows how much they love the country and how she can grow it and expand on the past 8 years while the other says how the country is awful but he can make it great but won't say how.
Yes I did. Hillary's was painful and desperate. Trumps was predictable.

I'd rather not be told anything then spoon fed lies.

She is doing nothing but playing off of Trump, and is going to become whatever he isn't.
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Hillary was never going to do well in the poll at the start of this thread given the demographics of this forum, but it is far more telling that Trump can barely get over 40% of the vote even here. That seems to be his top mark in any poll, anywhere.

As for large percentage of the "neither" voters on the Forum here and in the nation-wide electorate, if Trump was going to get their votes, he'd have them already. People know exactly what they'll get with him. He has topped out. It's downhill from here for The Donald.

My feeling is that at the end of the day, if you have anything whatsoever to lose, the undecided/neither vote will break for Hillary in a big way. If you have nothing to lose, maybe it'll be Trump, and if there are enough people who feel that way, well, maybe it is time for a change from the "change".

I can be somewhat ambivalent about national elections as my state is a reliable bulwark against the typical antediluvian Right wing ideology, even if Republicans do manage to gain the White House and keep Congress. We won't be going back in time on the Best Coast, no matter what.
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Yes I did. Hillary's was painful and desperate. Trumps was predictable.

I'd rather not be told anything then spoon fed lies.

She is doing nothing but playing off of Trump, and is going to become whatever he isn't.
Hahahahahah. You obviously have your mind made up and will disagree with anything.

Even the people on Fox News said it was a speech that reached out to everyone and it was in stark contrast. Your belief is that it is all fake is fine, it's your opinion.

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Instead of talking #@#@#@#@, why not educate these "uneducated" males.
I'm just quoting the demographics. It is a fact that he is dominating the uneducated male group. In fact he might be the first republican in 60 years to lose the white college educated vote. He knows his base well.
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I really don't know what "QFT" means. I just thought it was funny.

By the way, Hillary wearing white is a great subconscious move. She is going to position herself as the good side and paint trump as the dark side. Love that stuff.
Good lord. Are people really this simple minded?
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I really don't know what "QFT" means. I just thought it was funny.

By the way, Hillary wearing white is a great subconscious move. She is going to position herself as the good side and paint trump as the dark side. Love that stuff.
Hillary as the 'good side' .. LOL. That's rich
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Good lord. Are people really this simple minded?
Yes, people are.
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Did you listen to both speeches? One was a speech about bringing the nation together to go stronger and the other was how we are in a horrible place and we need to drive more wedges. One shows how much they love the country and how she can grow it and expand on the past 8 years while the other says how the country is awful but he can make it great but won't say how.
I mean if Hillary wan't always lying about everything, you'd figure out our country is going down hill. I'm not saying were in the shittiest position but we are defiantly not where we should be. Trump sometimes exagerates about how bad of a situation our country is in but its better that he worries us so we do something about it then pretend like our country has no issues like hillary does
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I mean if Hillary wan't always lying about everything, you'd figure out our country is going down hill. I'm not saying were in the shittiest position but we are defiantly where we should be. Trump sometimes exagerates about how bad of a situation our country is in but its better that he worries us so we do something about it then pretend like our country has no issues like hillary does
She doesn't pretend there aren't issues. She says that we are going to fix them together instead of how the sky is falling.
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She doesn't pretend there aren't issues. She says that we are going to fix them together instead of how the sky is falling.
Are you someone who needs everything sugarcoated for you?
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