Noah Vonleh Potential?

bighunt172 · 09-24-2015, 10:13 AM

Want to see everyones thoughts on him after getting a fresh start in Portland? Should get alot of playing time and they traded a very good player in Batum

LeonfromNC · 09-24-2015, 11:12 AM

Portland players rarely get any hobby love.

See Lamarcus Aldridge

hoopster3977 · 09-24-2015, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by LeonfromNC

Portland players rarely get any hobby love.

See Lamarcus Aldridge

Daiman Lillard??? LOL

chitownbears22 · 09-24-2015, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopster3977

Daiman Lillard??? LOL

That hobby love has crashed considerably since his rookie season.

Schocktown · 09-24-2015, 12:12 PM

I watched Vonleh a lot his full season at Indiana. That is, I watched him until he got into foul trouble routinely in every game. The fouls he commits are maddening and stupid, lunging for the ball and blatant over the backs. He has terrible hands, almost without fail fumbling whatever pass he catches in the middle. Then, he has no explosiveness around the basket. Whenever, he faced a center his size or bigger he was easily shut down. The numbers he compiled were against lesser opponents. That being said, he has decent touch for a big man. He is a good shotblocker and rebounder when he holds his position. He was thought to be going even higher then the 9th pick Charlotte selected him at but slid down the draft boards some right before the draft. I was astonished he was thought that much of. I wouldn't expect much out of him but being an Indiana University fan I hope he proves me wrong.

Pat3ntP3nd1ng · 09-24-2015, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LeonfromNC

Portland players rarely get any hobby love.

See Lamarcus Aldridge

Define hobby love in your words, because I think some people try to use it interchangeably with "extremely valuable" when that doesn't constitute "hobby love" for me.

Damon Stoudamire
Clyde Drexler
Bill Walton
Damian Lillard
Brandon Roy (before his knee injuries)
Rasheed Wallace

By that definition, I mean just think about each franchise, there is not always a massive demand for players after their first 3-4 years in their careers unless they continue to do extremely well. Look at the Orlando Magic, one could say there are only 4-5 players that get "hobby love", or the Chicago Bulls, they have 5 players that get "hobby love". Same goes for the Spurs, Pistons,.... even the Celtics and Lakers have about 7 and 10 players respectively, and they're the most accomplished franchises.

JMarchand1981 · 09-24-2015, 11:13 AM

I predict anywhere between kwame brown and Karl Malone.

Donkaylove · 09-24-2015, 11:37 AM

He seems to be the one with the most mystery and potential. Wingspan and athleticism for sure, but smarts unknown. We are assembling a team of hopefuls. We are destined for a mid first round pick. And, Lillard values are falling, even in pdx.

kyleuk21 · 09-24-2015, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JMarchand1981

I predict anywhere between kwame brown and Karl Malone.

Lol ^^^^^^^

edhou1 · 09-24-2015, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kyleuk21

Lol ^^^^^^^

I'm surprised the range wasn't Robert Sacre and Michael Jordan...

BestRCs · 09-24-2015, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bighunt172

Want to see everyones thoughts on him after getting a fresh start in Portland? Should get alot of playing time and they traded a very good player in Batum

I'm pretty high on him too. I was upset when the hornets gave up on him so quickly. He seems like he has some pretty nice tools. And yeah they'll probably count on him some what with LA gone. I think Neil Olshey has a pretty good eye as a GM so I wouldn't be surprised if does well.

chitownbears22 · 09-24-2015, 12:15 PM

If you like early foul trouble, you will love Vonleh. I am talking 3 fouls in 6 minutes early. Very poor body control, very slow to close out the paint.

kingofsnake · 09-24-2015, 12:56 PM

The player Vonleh has been most often compared to is Chris Bosh so I would say him.

Bruin7 · 09-24-2015, 01:21 PM

Surprised his cards are selling reasonably well. I know he's in Portland now but Charlotte didn't even want him...Charlotte...

Tarheelsfan2012 · 09-24-2015, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruin7

Surprised his cards are selling reasonably well. I know he's in Portland now but Charlotte didn't even want him...Charlotte...

Charlotte is impatient. They decided they needed to rebuild a few years ago and were just AWFUL. However, when they signed Al Jefferson in 2013 they ditched the whole build through the draft plan and tried to put together a competitive team to try and make the playoffs. They wanted to deal Zeller but Portland wouldn't take him and wanted Vonleh. Vonleh didn't get to play much as a rookie because the coach wanted veterans in the game (He played Jason Maxiell over him!!!!). We quit on him way too early. My friend trained Jeff Taylor this summer and asked him what he thought of the deal, he told him it was stupid because you could see the talent Vonleh had in practice.

DigitalTurk · 09-24-2015, 07:45 PM

Chris Bosh 2.0 potential
Absolute beast in NBA summer league.

bighunt172 · 09-26-2015, 02:30 PM

Yea i agree on the bosh comparison, that would be a ceiling for me

09-24-2015, 10:13 AM	#1
bighunt172 Banned Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 2,701	Noah Vonleh Potential? Want to see everyones thoughts on him after getting a fresh start in Portland? Should get alot of playing time and they traded a very good player in Batum

09-24-2015, 12:56 PM	#13
kingofsnake Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Napa Valley Posts: 4,520	The player Vonleh has been most often compared to is Chris Bosh so I would say him. __________________ I collect Joe Johnson - 2,819 different cards, 526 1/1's. www.ilocust.com/hobby.htm

09-24-2015, 01:21 PM	#14
Bruin7 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,875	Surprised his cards are selling reasonably well. I know he's in Portland now but Charlotte didn't even want him...Charlotte... __________________ UCLA CLASS OF 2002

09-24-2015, 11:12 AM	#2
LeonfromNC Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15,219	Portland players rarely get any hobby love. See Lamarcus Aldridge

09-24-2015, 12:12 PM	#5
Schocktown Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 684	I watched Vonleh a lot his full season at Indiana. That is, I watched him until he got into foul trouble routinely in every game. The fouls he commits are maddening and stupid, lunging for the ball and blatant over the backs. He has terrible hands, almost without fail fumbling whatever pass he catches in the middle. Then, he has no explosiveness around the basket. Whenever, he faced a center his size or bigger he was easily shut down. The numbers he compiled were against lesser opponents. That being said, he has decent touch for a big man. He is a good shotblocker and rebounder when he holds his position. He was thought to be going even higher then the 9th pick Charlotte selected him at but slid down the draft boards some right before the draft. I was astonished he was thought that much of. I wouldn't expect much out of him but being an Indiana University fan I hope he proves me wrong.

09-24-2015, 11:13 AM	#7
JMarchand1981 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 34,438	I predict anywhere between kwame brown and Karl Malone.

09-24-2015, 11:37 AM	#8
Donkaylove Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: PNW Posts: 3,199	He seems to be the one with the most mystery and potential. Wingspan and athleticism for sure, but smarts unknown. We are assembling a team of hopefuls. We are destined for a mid first round pick. And, Lillard values are falling, even in pdx.

09-24-2015, 12:15 PM	#12
chitownbears22 Banned Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 8,689	If you like early foul trouble, you will love Vonleh. I am talking 3 fouls in 6 minutes early. Very poor body control, very slow to close out the paint.

09-24-2015, 07:45 PM	#16
DigitalTurk Banned - PBM Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Up the street and around the corner Posts: 1,161	Chris Bosh 2.0 potential Absolute beast in NBA summer league.

09-26-2015, 02:30 PM	#17
bighunt172 Banned Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 2,701	Yea i agree on the bosh comparison, that would be a ceiling for me