Pathetic NT pricing

hairyangryfella · 04-10-2013, 02:14 PM

Just browsing on ebay and almost every single 2012 National Treasures card listing is a BIN/BO and the BIN is an absurd price. What's the point? If you're cashing in you need to sell quick and therefore run a short auction. I mean, $299 BIN/BO for an Egnew RPA??

Guessing NT is all about money making rather than collecting for those busting it....

trixstar · 04-10-2013, 02:16 PM

Well they'll sit there and not sell so the sellers will lose out anyway.

Clarka3 · 04-10-2013, 02:19 PM

where have you been? almost the entire hobby is about making money. otherwise, cases wouldn't be busted by the gamblers trying get the big hits and big payday.

i'm glad they're there, otherwise i'd have no singles to clean up on.

I agree with you though. not a fan of the outrageous BIN/BO prices. these are probably people that just got absolutely crushed on their case(s) and are trying to recoup as best they can.

superynaldo · 04-10-2013, 02:23 PM

NT=overpriced garbage... "Investors" are losing their butts on it as we speak...

Jnb0123 · 04-10-2013, 02:23 PM

It just came out, what did u expect?? Give it time before you buy, the prices will drop.

panamamyers · 04-10-2013, 02:38 PM

eBay should charge 5% right off the top for any Buy it Now listing, whether it sells for that price or not.
If they put it up for $3,000, they have to pay $150 to list it. If you don't like that structure, list it at $0.99 and let it auction itself off.

mikeyp · 04-10-2013, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by panamamyers

eBay should charge 5% right off the top for any Buy it Now listing, whether it sells for that price or not.
If they put it up for $3,000, they have to pay $150 to list it. If you don't like that structure, list it at $0.99 and let it auction itself off.

This is the stupidest thing that I have heard in a very long time. You must not sell at all or you would never be ok with this.

WallyatJCCards · 04-10-2013, 11:49 PM

Might be one of the dumbest things I have read so far in 2013...

Generally, those who don't have the resources to buy a $3,000 are jealous and in turn, think of stupid ideas to penalize those who DO have the cards.

Quote:

Originally Posted by panamamyers

eBay should charge 5% right off the top for any Buy it Now listing, whether it sells for that price or not.
If they put it up for $3,000, they have to pay $150 to list it. If you don't like that structure, list it at $0.99 and let it auction itself off.

SPauthentic84 · 04-11-2013, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panamamyers

eBay should charge 5% right off the top for any Buy it Now listing, whether it sells for that price or not.
If they put it up for $3,000, they have to pay $150 to list it. If you don't like that structure, list it at $0.99 and let it auction itself off.

So you can have those same people bid up your auctions and not pay?

I pull scrubs · 04-10-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jnb0123

It just came out, what did u expect?? Give it time before you buy, the prices will drop.

Singles for sure, but not boxes.

matt roberson · 04-10-2013, 02:37 PM

common sense isn't so common these days.....

CrisCarter80 · 04-10-2013, 02:41 PM

their card their price? is it really that hard?

bigmikeatl88 · 04-10-2013, 02:44 PM

you do realize ebay prefers and is moving more and more towards the BIN structure despite it's history as an "auction" site? why would they provide less incentive to use the price format they prefer? derp.

Diamondjake · 04-10-2013, 02:43 PM

I don't mind the BIN's at all, alot of times they are quite high but if you work with the seller many of them sell for 10-33% of those high listings.

Don't let the numbers scare you away from offers. Just offer what is fair to you and don't be attached if they say no, you'd be amazed how many will work a much lower price.

asujbl · 04-10-2013, 02:48 PM

Just as Contenders before it and Topps Chrome before that - anyone that buys now, with the intention of actually keeping the card (and not just re-flipping it) is insane. Yes I'm painting a broad brush.

Everything will drop. Everything. Luck and RGIII included (although their drop will be less I realize)

You've got Alshon Jeffery NT RPA's listed at $249.99 BIN's - when now a year later I could get a 2011 AJ Green NT RPA and still have $75 left over compared to that Jeffery - not that anyone is crazy enough to click that BIN - or I hope no one is.

Flipping I get. Collecting the player you want from NT (as I will with all Browns RC Autos) requires waiting a month.

rbb147 · 04-10-2013, 02:57 PM

tell ya what, my ebay app cheat sheet paints a funny picture on low auto prices (sold so far)
Luck /10 ball/tag/shield $865.
RGIII 50/50 numbers $350
AP ROY leather /27 $180
AP Timeline Nameplate 1/15 $150

Grant it these aren't the RPA's yet but I'm a little shocked for day 1 so far.

78yankees · 04-10-2013, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbb147

tell ya what, my ebay app cheat sheet paints a funny picture on low auto prices (sold so far)
Luck /10 ball/tag/shield $865.
RGIII 50/50 numbers $350
AP ROY leather /27 $180
AP Timeline Nameplate 1/15 $150

Grant it these aren't the RPA's yet but I'm a little shocked for day 1 so far.

I sent a $275 offer on the RG3 50/50 he countered with $325, waited to long and someone hit BIN.

ManInTheMirror · 04-10-2013, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rbb147

Grant it these aren't the RPA's yet but I'm a little shocked for day 1 so far.

What does tnarg have to do with this?

Diamondjake · 04-10-2013, 02:52 PM

Never underestimate the early flipper deals that can be had on some BIN.

Not every card is listed 10x market.

crac0018 · 04-10-2013, 02:57 PM

Why post with an outrageously high BIN? Because of Howard Cohen.

TheFrenzy · 04-10-2013, 03:14 PM

My strategy? If I see something I want, but it's too expensive, I'll just message the seller and say "I'm interested in your item and I want to make an offer that doesn't insult you. What ballpark range are you hoping to move this item?"

Usually I try to include sell prices of recently sold ones and let them know I'd go a little higher than what the item has been going for.

UFOS8MYCAT · 04-10-2013, 03:21 PM

Like one member said it's their cards let them post it up for whatever they want. If they don't sell who cares? I have 4 cases in today and I will keeping the stuff I want and will be listing the rest AT WHATEVER PRICE I FEEL LIKE!!!!!!

hairyangryfella · 04-10-2013, 03:26 PM

The thing is, I'm not looking to buy. I was just having a browse to see what stuff had been pulled and listed. And the majority of things were all crazy high BINs, it just seems pointless...

rbb147 · 04-10-2013, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hairyangryfella

The thing is, I'm not looking to buy. I was just having a browse to see what stuff had been pulled and listed. And the majority of things were all crazy high BINs, it just seems pointless...

It really is. It hurts the seller though, not the buyer. SP cards hurt buyers short term who want to pick up a card. . SP =list a card at an insane price than next person who gets one lists at insane price with it. Neither sell. Third comes and lists same price. 4 months down the road one decides to give in and go to auction. gets 1/4 what he could have at early release time. The /25 and /50 RPAs they will lose quicker but not as much cash. As soon as first auction ends the prices only go down. Im not an NFL collector but these are some nice RPA's being pulled already. There should be plenty of people coming out on top if it keeps up.

deltapi1049 · 04-10-2013, 06:18 PM

Im okay with the high BINs, as long as they come back with reasonable offers. This is the first day of release though.

Some people just have the cards up high to protect themselves.

04-10-2013, 02:14 PM	#1
hairyangryfella Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 13,219	Pathetic NT pricing Just browsing on ebay and almost every single 2012 National Treasures card listing is a BIN/BO and the BIN is an absurd price. What's the point? If you're cashing in you need to sell quick and therefore run a short auction. I mean, $299 BIN/BO for an Egnew RPA?? Guessing NT is all about money making rather than collecting for those busting it.... __________________ Aussies, lol "I have them on ignore, so they must log off to read what I typed and then reply to something I wouldn't see unless someone quotes it. Good grief. New levels of petty. I do know of one other member that does this. So pathetic."

04-10-2013, 02:19 PM	#3
Clarka3 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 17,877 Clarka3 Clarka3	where have you been? almost the entire hobby is about making money. otherwise, cases wouldn't be busted by the gamblers trying get the big hits and big payday. i'm glad they're there, otherwise i'd have no singles to clean up on. I agree with you though. not a fan of the outrageous BIN/BO prices. these are probably people that just got absolutely crushed on their case(s) and are trying to recoup as best they can. __________________ Luke Kuechly Collector pending: w8lifter28 (custom), Don't ask me how much I want to offer. Come with a price in mind. If I don't want it or think it's worth that, I will let you know.

04-10-2013, 02:37 PM	#11
matt roberson Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: wisconsin Posts: 4,166 robeysresale	common sense isn't so common these days..... __________________ PCing....Rice,AR12,Giannis,RW3,Packers/Badgers and shiny stuff.

04-10-2013, 02:48 PM	#15
asujbl Temporarily Suspended Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 63,299 ohiosundevils	Just as Contenders before it and Topps Chrome before that - anyone that buys now, with the intention of actually keeping the card (and not just re-flipping it) is insane. Yes I'm painting a broad brush. Everything will drop. Everything. Luck and RGIII included (although their drop will be less I realize) You've got Alshon Jeffery NT RPA's listed at $249.99 BIN's - when now a year later I could get a 2011 AJ Green NT RPA and still have $75 left over compared to that Jeffery - not that anyone is crazy enough to click that BIN - or I hope no one is. Flipping I get. Collecting the player you want from NT (as I will with all Browns RC Autos) requires waiting a month. __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies” Last edited by asujbl; 04-10-2013 at 02:58 PM.

04-10-2013, 02:57 PM	#16
rbb147 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,188	tell ya what, my ebay app cheat sheet paints a funny picture on low auto prices (sold so far) Luck /10 ball/tag/shield $865. RGIII 50/50 numbers $350 AP ROY leather /27 $180 AP Timeline Nameplate 1/15 $150 Grant it these aren't the RPA's yet but I'm a little shocked for day 1 so far. Last edited by rbb147; 04-10-2013 at 02:59 PM.

04-10-2013, 02:16 PM	#2
trixstar Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Seattle Posts: 24,173 stunner316	Well they'll sit there and not sell so the sellers will lose out anyway.

04-10-2013, 02:23 PM	#4
superynaldo Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: The Woodlands, TX Posts: 5,457 coookieomnomnom coookieomnomnom	NT=overpriced garbage... "Investors" are losing their butts on it as we speak...

04-10-2013, 02:23 PM	#5
Jnb0123 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 3,182	It just came out, what did u expect?? Give it time before you buy, the prices will drop.

04-10-2013, 02:38 PM	#6
panamamyers Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,898 panamamyers panamamyers	eBay should charge 5% right off the top for any Buy it Now listing, whether it sells for that price or not. If they put it up for $3,000, they have to pay $150 to list it. If you don't like that structure, list it at $0.99 and let it auction itself off.

04-10-2013, 02:41 PM	#12
CrisCarter80 Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,126 criscarter80	their card their price? is it really that hard?

04-10-2013, 02:44 PM	#13
bigmikeatl88 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Atlanta Posts: 639 bigmikeatl88	you do realize ebay prefers and is moving more and more towards the BIN structure despite it's history as an "auction" site? why would they provide less incentive to use the price format they prefer? derp.

04-10-2013, 02:43 PM	#14
Diamondjake Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Wonderland Posts: 857 Diamondjake	I don't mind the BIN's at all, alot of times they are quite high but if you work with the seller many of them sell for 10-33% of those high listings. Don't let the numbers scare you away from offers. Just offer what is fair to you and don't be attached if they say no, you'd be amazed how many will work a much lower price.

04-10-2013, 02:52 PM	#19
Diamondjake Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Wonderland Posts: 857 Diamondjake	Never underestimate the early flipper deals that can be had on some BIN. Not every card is listed 10x market.

04-10-2013, 02:57 PM	#20
crac0018 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Medina, OH Posts: 686 crac0018 Dynamo!	Why post with an outrageously high BIN? Because of Howard Cohen.

04-10-2013, 03:14 PM	#21
TheFrenzy Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Texan in AZ Posts: 44,115	My strategy? If I see something I want, but it's too expensive, I'll just message the seller and say "I'm interested in your item and I want to make an offer that doesn't insult you. What ballpark range are you hoping to move this item?" Usually I try to include sell prices of recently sold ones and let them know I'd go a little higher than what the item has been going for.

04-10-2013, 03:21 PM	#22
UFOS8MYCAT Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Earth Posts: 483	Like one member said it's their cards let them post it up for whatever they want. If they don't sell who cares? I have 4 cases in today and I will keeping the stuff I want and will be listing the rest AT WHATEVER PRICE I FEEL LIKE!!!!!!

04-10-2013, 03:26 PM	#23
hairyangryfella Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 13,219	The thing is, I'm not looking to buy. I was just having a browse to see what stuff had been pulled and listed. And the majority of things were all crazy high BINs, it just seems pointless... __________________ Aussies, lol "I have them on ignore, so they must log off to read what I typed and then reply to something I wouldn't see unless someone quotes it. Good grief. New levels of petty. I do know of one other member that does this. So pathetic."

04-10-2013, 06:18 PM	#25
deltapi1049 Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 4,801 deltapi1049	Im okay with the high BINs, as long as they come back with reasonable offers. This is the first day of release though. Some people just have the cards up high to protect themselves.