Top 5 current baseball players to collect/invest

[Slvnumber2]

Heard a discussion at a show on top current active players to buy and collect from an ROI standpoint and #1 player was obviously Ohtani with Judge in second. After that it was scattered as far as players to buy for short and long term. Overall the list was as follows and who would you change?

1. Ohtani
2. Judge
3. Skenes
4. Witt Jr
5. Raleigh/Kurtz/Elly

For the 5 spot many names came up with Kurtz having potential after a big rookie year, and if he goes to a bigger media market that is a huge help. Raleigh had a huge year last year but not a lot of hobby love - can he repeat the same type of year. Elly is a 40/40 guy and very young at 23, and played the second half with a partially torn quad. Was super hot in 2023/24 and can he return to form?🤔

[livfreely]

Originally Posted by Slvnumber2

Heard a discussion at a show on top current active players to buy and collect from an ROI standpoint and #1 player was obviously Ohtani with Judge in second. After that it was scattered as far as players to buy for short and long term. Overall the list was as follows and who would you change?

1. Ohtani
2. Judge
3. Skenes
4. Witt Jr
5. Raleigh/Kurtz/Elly

For the 5 spot many names came up with Kurtz having potential after a big rookie year, and if he goes to a bigger media market that is a huge help. Raleigh had a huge year last year but not a lot of hobby love - can he repeat the same type of year. Elly is a 40/40 guy and very young at 23, and played the second half with a partially torn quad. Was super hot in 2023/24 and can he return to form?

I would just do the top two and forget about the others.

Edit: I’m doing Juan as well. So 3

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[StateEx]

Any ROI conversation that's focused on players that already command top-dollar seems kind of off.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by StateEx

Any ROI conversation that's focused on players that already command top-dollar seems kind of off.

Yep.....how much more upside to players like Ohtani & Judge actually have? It would be almost impossible for them to top their current level of on-field performance, and they're going to be signing cards for the next 40-50 years (like Nolan Ryan).

If I had to pick ONE major league player to invest in right now, it would be someone like Corbin Carroll, who's fallen under the radar, but looks like he's going to be a perennial 30-30 player and a shoo-in to make the 300-300 club in about 7-8 years.

Another terrific under-the-radar player is Jose Ramirez, who will join the 300-300 club next year, has a decent shot at becoming only the second member of the 400-400 club in about five years, and will almost certainly be a 1st ballot HOFer.

[Diamondjake]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Yep.....how much more upside to players like Ohtani & Judge actually have? It would be almost impossible for them to top their current level of on-field performance, and they're going to be signing cards for the next 40-50 years (like Nolan Ryan).

If I had to pick ONE major league player to invest in right now, it would be someone like Corbin Carroll, who's fallen under the radar, but looks like he's going to be a perennial 30-30 player and a shoo-in to make the 300-300 club in about 7-8 years.

Another terrific under-the-radar player is Jose Ramirez, who will join the 300-300 club next year, has a decent shot at becoming only the second member of the 400-400 club in about five years, and will almost certainly be a 1st ballot HOFer.

I remember thinking man how much more upside could Jordan's and Lebron's possibly have. Boy was that a mistake.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by StateEx

Any ROI conversation that's focused on players that already command top-dollar seems kind of off.

100%.

[livfreely]

Originally Posted by StateEx

Any ROI conversation that's focused on players that already command top-dollar seems kind of off.

Look at basketball. I’m sure the same was said about MJ.

What about a Dodgers 3 peat? Or a Judge WS win?

Who right now will challenge their MVP contention next season?

There is still plenty of upside for #1 and #2 in my opinion.

For a shorter term investment who are the players going to be called up this coming season? Those would be the best ROI, no?


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[towerymt]

Originally Posted by StateEx

Any ROI conversation that's focused on players that already command top-dollar seems kind of off.

Glad it only took til the 3rd post to point this out...now I can read the rest of the thread in peace

[hermanotarjeta]

Maybe OP intended this to be a “HOT list”?

[Slvnumber2]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Maybe OP intended this to be a “HOT list”?

OP already has a hot list in my PC which are PSA well centered examples of Mantle, Aaron, Mays, Bench, Ryan, Ted Williams, Koufax, Schmidt…

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Slvnumber2

OP already has a hot list in my PC which are PSA well centered examples of Mantle, Aaron, Mays, Bench, Ryan, Ted Williams, Koufax, Schmidt…

Oh, so you really do mean ROI.

Over the next season, is it more likely that an Ohtani bowman chrome auto goes from $25,000 to $75,000, or a bowman chrome Caminero auto goes from $200 to $600?

Your list may represent the worst ROI guys.

Your safest bet is to buy low, sell high. Not buy at the peak and hope it leads to an even higher peak at triple the current high.

[Slvnumber2]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Oh, so you really do mean ROI.

Over the next season, is it more likely that an Ohtani bowman chrome auto goes from $25,000 to $75,000, or a bowman chrome Caminero auto goes from $200 to $600?

Your list may represent the worst ROI guys.

Your safest bet is to buy low, sell high. Not buy at the peak and hope it leads to an even higher peak at triple the current high.

Does not matter to me since I don’t collect modern. Was just creating a discussion since i heard some modern guys discussing the hobby and who they felt were the top modern guys. I am putting my card money in guys like GOAT’s like Bench, Ryan, Koufax, Mantle, and Aaron.

Only thing we have learned so far from your post is your reading comprehension is not very good. Where did I say I was picking up the top 5 guys listed?

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Slvnumber2

Does not matter to me since I don’t collect modern. Was just creating a discussion since i heard some modern guys discussing the hobby and who they felt were the top modern guys. I am putting my card money in guys like GOAT’s like Bench, Ryan, Koufax, Mantle, and Aaron.

Only thing we have learned so far from your post is your reading comprehension is not very good. Where did I say I was picking up the top 5 guys listed?

Where did I say you were picking up the top 5 guys listed?

[Rbradleigh]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Oh, so you really do mean ROI.

Over the next season, is it more likely that an Ohtani bowman chrome auto goes from $25,000 to $75,000, or a bowman chrome Caminero auto goes from $200 to $600?

Your list may represent the worst ROI guys.

Your safest bet is to buy low, sell high. Not buy at the peak and hope it leads to an even higher peak at triple the current high.

Interesting, you just made me think of a lesson from a Finance class.
A $200 card goes to $1,000 and your rate of return is 500% & an EV of $800

A $5,000 card goes to $15,000 and your rate of return is 300% but EV = $10,000

Would you rather have the 5x rate of return or the 3x ?

The answer really is the EV of $10,000 >> $800

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Rbradleigh

Interesting, you just made me think of a lesson from a Finance class.
A $200 card goes to $1,000 and your rate of return is 500% & an EV of $800

A $5,000 card goes to $15,000 and your rate of return is 300% but EV = $10,000

Would you rather have the 5x rate of return or the 3x ?

The answer really is the EV of $10,000 >> $800

Yes, but you can buy 125 camineros for the same price as one Ohtani, at an equal initial investment.

So an equal investment of $25,000 in each player could make the Caminero investment better.

[dfenno]

Originally Posted by Rbradleigh

Interesting, you just made me think of a lesson from a Finance class.
A $200 card goes to $1,000 and your rate of return is 500% & an EV of $800

A $5,000 card goes to $15,000 and your rate of return is 300% but EV = $10,000

Would you rather have the 5x rate of return or the 3x ?

The answer really is the EV of $10,000 >> $800

Yes, for a company that has capacity constraints on how many projects they can pursue. Lots of small projects don’t make sense because the payoff is too small even if the cash investment is also small.

But for the vast majority of us, the constraint is the money out the door, so this comparison doesn’t really hold.

[Twalk1975]

What kind of time frame are we talking about? Kurtz isn't going to a bigger media market anytime soon. Moving to Vegas is still two years away, but im assuming this refers to free agency.

[theshowandme]

The gap between 1 and 2 is massive

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

The gap between 1 and 2 is massive

and growing between 2 and everyone else

[boxbuster7]

The Kurtz narrative is actually insane...

you guys are nuts

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

The Kurtz narrative is actually insane...

you guys are nuts

As someone who really likes Kurtz… I completely agree. His prices are silly right now.

[PeteD]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

As someone who really likes Kurtz… I completely agree. His prices are silly right now.

yeah right now he's my #1 go to...got tons of the first two over the last 2 yrs.

[hermanotarjeta]

Skubal prices are still pretty low going in to next season.

Maybe a third cy young will bring his cards to that next level?

[dani0100]

Charizard, Pikachu, MewTwo, Umbreon, and Gengar. These players will out perform all MLB players.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by dani0100

Charizard, Pikachu, MewTwo, Umbreon, and Gengar. These players will out perform all MLB players.

The Pikachu bucket is less picked over than the rest. I’m amazed at what some of these high grade ghosts go for.