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Old 06-27-2024, 06:56 AM   #1
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Default 2024 topps update should be loaded! Right?

Little early to be talking 2024 Topps Update Flagship but seeing that Series 2 was a bit disappointing with the RC's everyone was looking for (they are just SP's), that means that these same rookies should have standard RC's in Update to go along with Series 1 & 2 RC Debuts and RC's of the players who debuted after Opening Day until May 31st.

I may have missed some but the list of RC's in 2024 Update should include (some potentially saved for 2025 Series 1):

Holliday
Manzardo
C. Keith
W. Perez
Loperfido
A. Martin
Bliss
Clase
Foscue
Langford
Beck
A. Pages
T. Black
Chourio
J. Jones
Skenes
C. Scott
Merrill
Pauley
V. Scott
Leiter
Y. Rodriguez
B. Brown

Some big ones here to chase and get parallels/autos of. Let me know what you guys think. Will 2024 Update be as big as 2022 Update when we had Julio and Bobby??
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Old 06-27-2024, 07:02 AM   #2
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Skenes is the only big one from that list. Holliday base SP from series 2 is $65. The others are $40-45. First flagship being SP and ongoing bad production from these guys will kill any interest.
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Skenes is the only big one from that list. Holliday base SP from series 2 is $65. The others are $40-45. First flagship being SP and ongoing bad production from these guys will kill any interest.
I can see that end too. I guess we'll see from the rest of the years performance from these guys in the MLB and in the minors if the interest increases or decreases.
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Old 06-27-2024, 07:21 AM   #4
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And if you doubt that, consider that a PSA 9 Witt Black sold for just $820 in April. Based on that, I think you’re talking max fair value of $250-300 for the Black of anybody outside of Skenes.
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And if you doubt that, consider that a PSA 9 Witt Black sold for just $820 in April. Based on that, I think you’re talking max fair value of $250-300 for the Black of anybody outside of Skenes.
What is the o/u seasons before TJ for Skenes? 3 seasons?
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What is the o/u seasons before TJ for Skenes? 3 seasons?
His second TJ??? It's definitely under 3 years for TJ #1.
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Thing is, we won’t really know for about 4-5 years if this is a great list or a poopy list.
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Hi

I know 2024 Topps Update Baseball wont be out until October..


Currently Paul Skenes Rookie cards will be in this product and we could possibly see KYLE MANZARDO / COLT KEITH / WENCEEL PEREZ / JOEY LOPERFIDO and a few others if they get called up soon.
at $250 / hobby box doesnt it sound to good to be true?

Skenez Base Rookie will probably sell for $50-$75 while Manzardo-Keith could be in the $25-50 range.

By this time PSA should have a $35-50 grading level


Any thoughts on the potential of this product as well as the current price?

I think it could be one of the hottest products if not the hottest of these past years.
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Hi

I know 2024 Topps Update Baseball wont be out until October..


Currently Paul Skenes Rookie cards will be in this product and we could possibly see KYLE MANZARDO / COLT KEITH / WENCEEL PEREZ / JOEY LOPERFIDO and a few others if they get called up soon.
at $250 / hobby box doesnt it sound to good to be true?

Skenez Base Rookie will probably sell for $50-$75 while Manzardo-Keith could be in the $25-50 range.

By this time PSA should have a $35-50 grading level


Any thoughts on the potential of this product as well as the current price?

I think it could be one of the hottest products if not the hottest of these past years.
Yesssssssss, I was waiting for this

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Hi

I know 2024 Topps Update Baseball wont be out until October..


Currently Paul Skenes Rookie cards will be in this product and we could possibly see KYLE MANZARDO / COLT KEITH / WENCEEL PEREZ / JOEY LOPERFIDO and a few others if they get called up soon.
at $250 / hobby box doesnt it sound to good to be true?

Skenez Base Rookie will probably sell for $50-$75 while Manzardo-Keith could be in the $25-50 range.

By this time PSA should have a $35-50 grading level


Any thoughts on the potential of this product as well as the current price?

I think it could be one of the hottest products if not the hottest of these past years.
I’m all in for ten cases.
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Hi

I know 2024 Topps Update Baseball wont be out until October..


Currently Paul Skenes Rookie cards will be in this product and we could possibly see KYLE MANZARDO / COLT KEITH / WENCEEL PEREZ / JOEY LOPERFIDO and a few others if they get called up soon.
at $250 / hobby box doesnt it sound to good to be true?

Skenez Base Rookie will probably sell for $50-$75 while Manzardo-Keith could be in the $25-50 range.

By this time PSA should have a $35-50 grading level


Any thoughts on the potential of this product as well as the current price?

I think it could be one of the hottest products if not the hottest of these past years.
I noticed you focused on the lower end guys. Some of the others in this list will definitely be desired by collectors. No need to be a wise ass. Just asking for collectors views on the set.
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I noticed you focused on the lower end guys. Some of the others in this list will definitely be desired by collectors. No need to be a wise ass. Just asking for collectors views on the set.
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I'm too new to know what that is. If you got a laugh, then happy happy joy joy to you.
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Hi

I know 2024 Topps Update Baseball wont be out until October..


Currently Paul Skenes Rookie cards will be in this product and we could possibly see KYLE MANZARDO / COLT KEITH / WENCEEL PEREZ / JOEY LOPERFIDO and a few others if they get called up soon.
at $250 / hobby box doesnt it sound to good to be true?

Skenez Base Rookie will probably sell for $50-$75 while Manzardo-Keith could be in the $25-50 range.

By this time PSA should have a $35-50 grading level


Any thoughts on the potential of this product as well as the current price?

I think it could be one of the hottest products if not the hottest of these past years.
Ok, you got me. In for 20 cases of regular and chrome.
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Hi

I know 2024 Topps Update Baseball wont be out until October..


Currently Paul Skenes Rookie cards will be in this product and we could possibly see KYLE MANZARDO / COLT KEITH / WENCEEL PEREZ / JOEY LOPERFIDO and a few others if they get called up soon.
at $250 / hobby box doesnt it sound to good to be true?

Skenez Base Rookie will probably sell for $50-$75 while Manzardo-Keith could be in the $25-50 range.

By this time PSA should have a $35-50 grading level


Any thoughts on the potential of this product as well as the current price?

I think it could be one of the hottest products if not the hottest of these past years.

Great timing and bonus points for incorporating Wenceel Perez.

Now if you'll excuse me, off to preorder 10 cases.
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The Jacksons, Skenes, Wyatt, and Keith are all pretty strong rookie headliners and I'd put 2024's top five against pretty much any product that's come out since 2018 in terms of hype and perceived potential at the time of release.
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Great timing and bonus points for incorporating Wenceel Perez.

Now if you'll excuse me, off to preorder 10 cases.
There's some Detroit fans who like Wenceel! I was naming some rookies off the top of my head at the time. He may have had a good week for fantasy that week too. Maybe that's why I listed him. Anyway, you'll be sorry when he goes 40/40 next year and wins the MVP!!
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OP has a generous definition of “loaded”.
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OP has a generous definition of “loaded”.
So you won’t be in on any Update?
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So you won’t be in on any Update?
I’ll be in on Skenes. After that, I’ll pick and choose when the right card becomes available at the right price. I’m a singles buyer. I don’t really care which release the card came from.
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I dunno...that seams loaded to me. A lot of superstar potential with Skenes, Langford, and the three Jacksons.
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Yes, but hasn't there been a precedent set with Topps in recent years where stars are being held back from the Update set so they can have RC's the following year?

I'm remembering Adley Rutschman who debuted in May from a few years ago - by all means he should have been in Update, and yet he was held back. Same thing with Elly De La Cruz - had an early debut and nothing in update.
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Yes, but hasn't there been a precedent set with Topps in recent years where stars are being held back from the Update set so they can have RC's the following year?

I'm remembering Adley Rutschman who debuted in May from a few years ago - by all means he should have been in Update, and yet he was held back. Same thing with Elly De La Cruz - had an early debut and nothing in update.
Adley debuted on May 21st and Elly on June 6th. While Topps’ deadline is admittedly blurry and slightly moving target every year, both those dates are well past the current established deadlines. The days of a player debuting on, let’s just pick a random day, July 8th, and being in Update are long gone.
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You know they are going to hold Skenes for 2025 S1. Who else do they have to carry that product?
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