2023 Prizm UFC

[Peachcardsatl]

Don’t see a thread yet and this product is scheduled to release in late April. Looks like debut of signed cards from hasbulla so could be a fun product.

[Brobocop]

Guarantee it'll be at least 50% more than what it should be at release.

[Giroux]

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[rms13]

Originally Posted by Giroux

https://mobile.twitter.com/PaniniAme...81443793035266

Is that the guy who killed his cat on live stream?

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[IronCladLou]

Can't wait for the animal abuser Prizm.

Oh Hasbulla you little turd

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by IronCladLou

Can't wait for the animal abuser Prizm.

Oh Hasbulla you little turd

Even before it came out he likes to get his rocks off abusing cats I never got the appeal of this little fella.

[ThatGuyPal]

Bad timing for Panini lol

Luckily for them to much less fanfare they did announce Alex Pereira rookies/autos will also be in the product the next day

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by ThatGuyPal

Bad timing for Panini lol

Luckily for them to much less fanfare they did announce Alex Pereira rookies/autos will also be in the product the next day

Watch him lose on Saturday and his cards drop 50% in value before they’re even released lol.

[ThatGuyPal]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

Watch him lose on Saturday and his cards drop 50% in value before they’re even released lol.

He would be my pick but great point lol could be another case of bad timing

Especially since rookies do seem to be a big focus of the Panini era, compared to other sports or even WWE it seems everyone wants the Paddy's or Khamzat's but guys like GSP, Tito Ortiz, aren't insanely valuable and even guys like Connor aren't completely unaffordable.

Being third year Prizm if he does lose and there isn't another rookie chase to fill the void, could be a rough rip

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by ThatGuyPal

He would be my pick but great point lol could be another case of bad timing

Especially since rookies do seem to be a big focus of the Panini era, compared to other sports or even WWE it seems everyone wants the Paddy's or Khamzat's but guys like GSP, Tito Ortiz, aren't insanely valuable and even guys like Connor aren't completely unaffordable.

Being third year Prizm if he does lose and there isn't another rookie chase to fill the void, could be a rough rip

It’s truly bizarre. I didn’t start collecting MMA cards until roughly 2020 probably even though I was an MMA fan and a card collector for many years prior. The first card I bought I believe was an on card auto of Forrest Griffin. Not only was he a former champion but a popular fan favorite so needless to say I was astounded when I won it at auction for like $10.

[xposipx]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

It’s truly bizarre. I didn’t start collecting MMA cards until roughly 2020 probably even though I was an MMA fan and a card collector for many years prior. The first card I bought I believe was an on card auto of Forrest Griffin. Not only was he a former champion but a popular fan favorite so needless to say I was astounded when I won it at auction for like $10.

I was collecting at series 1 too. For that community, it was actually a bit embarrassing. Card collecting just recently became an acceptable hobby. I actually mailed a Forrest series 1 card to his gym which he promptly signed and sent back. Also received Amir Sadollah, Jim and Dan Miller, and Dan Henderson. Liddell is the only one that didn't return one.

Those cards were far superior to this junk.

[ThatGuyPal]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

Watch him lose on Saturday and his cards drop 50% in value before they’re even released lol.

Welp.

[ThatGuyPal]

It's also not like Topps was producing one UFC set a year lol, 2020 had three, 2019 had three and 2021 Panini had four, and supply still outdid demand as Striking Signatures the last set I remember being discounted almost everywhere.

Topps just got stuck having the License right before the boom lol and you could tell they were just kind of calling it in the last year knowing it was gone similar to Panini now with redemptions etc with them losing their licenses in other sports.

[Crashingwaves]

Quite true... Topps was definitely phoning it in at the end but those releases were considerably smaller at least

This is why I expected more from Panini... especially with the lucky timing coming in at the boom. But the result has been more hype than sizzle.

At least the first 5-7 years of releases from Topps were reasonably good... and they didn't totally use release/set names & themes already used with other sport releases. They tried to make the UFC cards distinct.

Regardless... past is the past... and the future is Fanatics (uugghh). Hence why I focus on the early Topps UFC cards. 1st lic cards, more distinct, broader types of sets/cards and lower production runs.

Originally Posted by ThatGuyPal

It's also not like Topps was producing one UFC set a year lol, 2020 had three, 2019 had three and 2021 Panini had four, and supply still outdid demand as Striking Signatures the last set I remember being discounted almost everywhere.

Topps just got stuck having the License right before the boom lol and you could tell they were just kind of calling it in the last year knowing it was gone similar to Panini now with redemptions etc with them losing their licenses in other sports.

[ThatGuyPal]

FOTL tomorrow and no one cares. This probably has less anticipation than WWE Prizm, I may actually believe "the fix is in" if this doesn't get to/near floor. Between the Hesbulla thing, Pereira losing when he would probably be the next "chase" rookie behind Paddy last year and Khamzat before that, and some of the fighters with recent big wins having zero hobby love (Gilber Burns, Alexa Grasso) set already seems dead in the water. I mean it didn't even get a Blowout First Buzz lol

Interesting they are following the WWE blueprint with a H2/Undercard box though with undercard base variations. The WWE ones are of different characters the wrestler portrayed than their base card so it'll be interesting what they do for UFC, maybe younger/rookie era photos? Which would be cool imo

[Brobocop]

What’s the floor? I can’t see it on the app. $250 for hobby is crazy high but I’m willing to bet that FOTL sells out right around there.


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[t6p]

Floor is $250 on FOTL.

Just took a quick look at the checklist. I'm probably missing a few but the names that stood out as far as rookies go seem to be Rosas, Blanchfield, Nickal, Pereira and Maddalena. Anybody else?

[xposipx]

Originally Posted by t6p

Floor is $250 on FOTL.

Just took a quick look at the checklist. I'm probably missing a few but the names that stood out as far as rookies go seem to be Rosas, Blanchfield, Nickal, Pereira and Maddalena. Anybody else?

Nickal and Maddalena are the biggest ones probably.

These could also make waves in the future, but won't sell a product:

Murzakanov
Jailton Malhadinho
Tatsuro Taira
Karine Silva
Javid Basharat
Rinat Fakhretdinov
Muhammad Mokaev
Aliaskhab Khizriev
Josiane Nunes

and then someone like Ulberg, Pyfer, Phil Rowe, and Medic could get an exciting win or two.

[t6p]

Originally Posted by xposipx

Nickal and Maddalena are the biggest ones probably.

These could also make waves in the future, but won't sell a product:

Murzakanov
Jailton Malhadinho
Tatsuro Taira
Karine Silva
Javid Basharat
Rinat Fakhretdinov
Muhammad Mokaev
Aliaskhab Khizriev
Josiane Nunes

and then someone like Ulberg, Pyfer, Phil Rowe, and Medic could get an exciting win or two.

Thanks for the info. I consider myself a pretty big UFC fan but I'm admittedly not familiar with everyone on your list. I'll have to look into them.

Anyway, not sure I can bring myself to pull the trigger even if this gets to floor. That said, the prices that some 2022 rookies are going for is really surprising to me so maybe I'm wrong.

[xposipx]

Originally Posted by t6p

Thanks for the info. I consider myself a pretty big UFC fan but I'm admittedly not familiar with everyone on your list. I'll have to look into them.

Anyway, not sure I can bring myself to pull the trigger even if this gets to floor. That said, the prices that some 2022 rookies are going for is really surprising to me so maybe I'm wrong.

Yeah, I'm with you. I would pay about $200 for FOTL and $150 for hobby. There's a decent chance to get $40-50 out of a box and potential for bigger hits as well.

The rookies are underwhelming for sure also.

Azamat Murzakanov probably has the biggest name/potential, but is older. His last win proved he's legit IMO.

Malhadinho - One big win, but appears to be legit.

Tatsuro Taira - Japanese grappler they are bringing up slowly

Karine Silva - female grappler. not sure how legit

Javid Basharat - Exciting fighter - check out his fights even though they are decision wins.

Rinat Fakhretdinov - no big wins yet, but looks to be a force.

Muhammad Mokaev - young and exciting and already has legit wins. i'd buy

Aliaskhab Khizriev - good record, but not very active, so i'm unsure

Josiane Nunes - good female striker. not sure how elite or not.

[t6p]

Originally Posted by xposipx

Yeah, I'm with you. I would pay about $200 for FOTL and $150 for hobby. There's a decent chance to get $40-50 out of a box and potential for bigger hits as well.

The rookies are underwhelming for sure also.

Azamat Murzakanov probably has the biggest name/potential, but is older. His last win proved he's legit IMO.

Malhadinho - One big win, but appears to be legit.

Tatsuro Taira - Japanese grappler they are bringing up slowly

Karine Silva - female grappler. not sure how legit

Javid Basharat - Exciting fighter - check out his fights even though they are decision wins.

Rinat Fakhretdinov - no big wins yet, but looks to be a force.

Muhammad Mokaev - young and exciting and already has legit wins. i'd buy

Aliaskhab Khizriev - good record, but not very active, so i'm unsure

Josiane Nunes - good female striker. not sure how elite or not.

Thanks again for the info.

Sold out at $375. That is insane.

[xposipx]

Originally Posted by xposipx

Yeah, I'm with you. I would pay about $200 for FOTL and $150 for hobby. There's a decent chance to get $40-50 out of a box and potential for bigger hits as well.

The rookies are underwhelming for sure also.

Azamat Murzakanov probably has the biggest name/potential, but is older. His last win proved he's legit IMO.

Malhadinho - One big win, but appears to be legit.

Tatsuro Taira - Japanese grappler they are bringing up slowly

Karine Silva - female grappler. not sure how legit

Javid Basharat - Exciting fighter - check out his fights even though they are decision wins.

Rinat Fakhretdinov - no big wins yet, but looks to be a force.

Muhammad Mokaev - young and exciting and already has legit wins. i'd buy

Aliaskhab Khizriev - good record, but not very active, so i'm unsure

Josiane Nunes - good female striker. not sure how elite or not.

It's fun coming back to this thread. Only 5-6 of these boxes ever hit ebay. DACardworld got the rest along with a breaker named The Clubhouse Breaks.

And coming back to the RC predictions:

Prices of oranges /99:

Jack Della M. $10
Bo Nickal $150
Murzakanov $2 (still undefeated)
Taira $90 (still undefeated)
Malhadinho $10 est (lost 1)
Karine Silva $15-20 (ufc undefeated)
Basharat $20 (lost last fight)
Fakhretdinov $15 est (1 draw)
Muhammad Mokaev $30 est (undefeated)
Khizriev $5 (undefeated)
Josiane Nunes $10 (1 loss)

Wish I followed my own advice! But still puts into perspective how overpriced stuff is.

[xposipx]

“Sold out”. 0% chance.

[Peachcardsatl]

Didn’t get the fotl boxes but the cards look really sharp this year from what I have seen.

[Peachcardsatl]

Really quick sellout on panini website.