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The fact that Panini doesn't number the Prizms (even some of the ones that must be extremely low print runs) is frustrating. From my searching and buying the last few months, here's my best guess in terms of the ranking of the scarcity of the various Prizms.
Please let me know which ones I'm leaving out or if you think my rankings need to be switched around. These are all non-auto 2021 Prizms: 1) Black Finite (numbered to 1) 2) Neon Green No Huddle (# to 5) Green Shimmer (5) Gold Vinyl (5) 5) Snakeskin (print run unknown) 6) Gold Shimmer (10) Gold (10) 8) Black and Red Checkerboard (print run unknown) 9) Pink No Huddle (15) Forest Camo (15) 11) Navy Camo (25) Blue Shimmer (25) 13).Red Shimmer (35) Purple No Huddle (35) 15) Purple Power (49) 16) Red No Huddle (50) 17) Orange Wave (60) 18) Black and White Checkerboard (print run unknown) 19) Green Scope (75) 20) Blue Disco No Huddle (79) 22) Blue (print run unknown) 22) Red (print run unknown) 23) Green Ice (print run unknown) 24) Blue Ice (99) 25) Purple (125) 26) Red Wave (149) 27) Hyper (175) 28) Purple Ice (225) 29) Orange (249) 30) Purple Pulsar (print run unknown) 31) No Huddle Disco (print run unknown) 32) Orange Ice (print run unknown) 33) Light Blue (print run unknown) 34) Pink (print run unknown) 35) Red Ice (print run unknown) 36) Neon Green Pulsar (print run unknown) 37) Green (print run unknown) 38) Silver (print run unknown) 39) Red, White, and Blue (print run unknown) 40) Orange Lazer (print run unknown) 41) Orange Disco (print run unknown) 42) No Huddle Photo Variation Disco (print run unknown) 43) Photo Variation Silver (print run unknown) Thoughts? |
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Blue has to be somewhere in the /10 range.
Red is probably somewhere in the /20 range.
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That' makes sense. I haven't seen a Blue listed anywhere (in the past two months or so). I've seen one or two reds listed but they are rare and expensive. Not sure how Panini decides on the print run. Why make basic colors - red, blue, etc... - so scare but then other basic colors like green, pink, etc... so numerous? You'd think they'd make the full/basic colors all grouped together in terms of print runs and then get more rare with versions that are more "exotic" in terms of color variation. |
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retail blue and retail red? If that’s what we’re talking about they are substantially higher than 10 and 20. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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What’s your evidence? I’m using the number available on COMC w.r.t. serial numbered parallels.
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pop report my man. go look up 2020 pop reports and compare to known numbered cards. 2021 surely didn’t go down. 1) there hasn’t been as much time for 2021 cards to get graded, 2) there is more 2021 still sealed compared to 2020, particularly retail. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by BRob1; 02-25-2023 at 01:13 PM. |
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Snakeskin is probably about correct where you have it. I think the red checkerboard is closer to 25 and the white one is much less rare than people think it is. I would put it at 100 or more.
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Thanks, good to know. Am I missing any variations? Is there a White Sprarkle? Another others? |
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Blue wave /199 White sparkle
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And in my opinion the no huddle disco is closer to the 75-125 range.
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That's interesting. I bought one recently on eBay and there were a lot of others bidding on it. And I haven't seen any others of that card listed. So you're probably right, that version should be higher on the list. Thanks! |
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Location: Chicago, IL
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I made the mistake of starting to buy parallels of Stafford and Kupp from 2021 Prizm. This thread is a huge help and also discourages me at the same time.
Is No Huddle Disco the silver or the orange disco? |
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Ah cool. I only asked because I was working off the list of parallels off Beckett's site. It listed No Huddle Prizm and Disco Prizm but no Orange Disco.
I know I'll never complete the rainbow, but tracking down as many as I can intrigued me. Not even halfway there.
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Also have the Kupp Gold Vinyl /5. Not actively looking to move it but willing to for the right price if interested. Not graded. |
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What does someone even do with 44 versions of the same card?
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Fills the unexplainable void in their soul.
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Again, what does one do with 44 versions? Even the big display cases top out around 35.
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I would never buy a rainbow of these. The top 10 are overpriced relative to other things and the bottom 12+ are totally worthless. But that’s just me. I’ve got a pair of blues, some silver discos, and a few other ones that were a good deal of my guy.
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I also don’t see the red and yellow /39 on your list? And the white sparkle?
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