What will happen to Bonds record breaking stats??

PokeyAndG · 09-06-2022, 08:52 PM

The single season and all-time hr records. I feel like it's sort of stuck in limbo all this time. On the one hand MLB can't remove it from the record books even though it's a huge stain on the sport, but then they totally refuse to acknowledge or glorify the hr records. I think they will be just playing the waiting game and wait for some generational talent to dethrone Bonds. could be a very long time though.

k13 · 09-06-2022, 09:03 PM

Nothing.
Record counts.

No one should beat it for a long time.

smapdi · 09-06-2022, 09:03 PM

Nothing to really be worried about. They're not going to do anything, ever. Bonds holding those records is bad, but there are far bigger stains on MLB.

coltsnsox07 · 09-06-2022, 09:16 PM

The list for most homers in a season is umm, quite dubious for the non Yankees on it...
73 Barry Bonds, San Francisco (N.L.)2001
70 Mark McGwire, St. Louis (N.L.) 1998
66 Sammy Sosa, Chicago (N.L.) 1998
65 Mark McGwire, St. Louis (N.L.) 1999
64 Sammy Sosa, Chicago (N.L.) 2001
63 Sammy Sosa, Chicago (N.L.) 1999
61 Roger Maris, New York (A.L.) 1961
60 Babe Ruth, New York (A.L.) 1927
59 Babe Ruth, New York (A.L.) 1921

MoreToppsPlease · 09-06-2022, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

The list for most homers in a season is umm, quite dubious for the non Yankees on it...
73 Barry Bonds, San Francisco (N.L.)2001
70 Mark McGwire, St. Louis (N.L.) 1998
66 Sammy Sosa, Chicago (N.L.) 1998
65 Mark McGwire, St. Louis (N.L.) 1999
64 Sammy Sosa, Chicago (N.L.) 2001
63 Sammy Sosa, Chicago (N.L.) 1999
61 Roger Maris, New York (A.L.) 1961
60 Babe Ruth, New York (A.L.) 1927
59 Babe Ruth, New York (A.L.) 1921

Quite dubious for the National Leaguers on the list

cardsin47 · 09-06-2022, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

The list for most homers in a season is umm, quite dubious for the non Yankees on it...
73 Barry Bonds, San Francisco (N.L.)2001
70 Mark McGwire, St. Louis (N.L.) 1998
66 Sammy Sosa, Chicago (N.L.) 1998
65 Mark McGwire, St. Louis (N.L.) 1999
64 Sammy Sosa, Chicago (N.L.) 2001
63 Sammy Sosa, Chicago (N.L.) 1999
61 Roger Maris, New York (A.L.) 1961
60 Babe Ruth, New York (A.L.) 1927
59 Babe Ruth, New York (A.L.) 1921

Geez….. top spots are like a successful steroids commercial

rngrdanny22 · 09-06-2022, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsin47

Geez….. top spots are like a successful steroids commercial

I don't condone it, but it sure as hell was fun to watch!

PokeyAndG · 09-06-2022, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

I don't condone it, but it sure as hell was fun to watch!

hell yeah, remember Brady Andersen launching 50 in one season out of nowhere.

babybull · 09-07-2022, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsin47

Geez….. top spots are like a successful steroids commercial

Not a surprise. That's why these guys used them.

regularp · 09-06-2022, 09:09 PM

He's going to continue holding them and eventually, the pearl clutchers associated with the game will fade away while the rest of us celebrate the records.

Koolfeather98T · 09-06-2022, 09:12 PM

Could not agree more.

MoreToppsPlease · 09-06-2022, 09:19 PM

Nobody’s going to change their mind on the subject, it’s still and will remain

Traffic on this forum must be suffering for this topic to be brought up…again <beating dead horse>

fabiani12333 · 09-06-2022, 09:28 PM

Comparing statistics across different eras of MLB is a flawed approach, anyway. You can't fairly compare the raw numbers of Bonds, Ruth, Aaron and Maris because they all played within significantly different playing environments and conditions. For example, the baseballs used by MLB have differed significantly throughout its history.

You also have the cases of Willie Mays and Ted Williams, who both missed years of playing time due to military service. Mays got screwed out of a chance of breaking Ruth's home run record due to 2 years of military service early in his career.

Even when comparing the numbers of players of the same generation, it can be unfair. For example, Bonds had to hit in very pitcher friendly Pac Bell Park, while Sammy Sosa got to hit at home run friendly Wrigley. Likewise, Willie Mays had to hit at windy and cold Candlestick Park, while Hank Aaron got to hit at warm and home run friendly Atlanta Stadium.

Stifle · 09-07-2022, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Comparing statistics across different eras of MLB is a flawed approach, anyway. You can't fairly compare the raw numbers of Bonds, Ruth, Aaron and Maris because they all played within significantly different playing environments and conditions. For example, the baseballs used by MLB have differed significantly throughout its history.

You also have the cases of Willie Mays and Ted Williams, who both missed years of playing time due to military service. Mays got screwed out of a chance of breaking Ruth's home run record due to 2 years of military service early in his career.

Even when comparing the numbers of players of the same generation, it can be unfair. For example, Bonds had to hit in very pitcher friendly Pac Bell Park, while Sammy Sosa got to hit at home run friendly Wrigley. Likewise, Willie Mays had to hit at windy and cold Candlestick Park, while Hank Aaron got to hit at warm and home run friendly Atlanta Stadium.

How about placing a asterisk on known changes to era’s ?

2022-2005 - The Shifting era, will not be allowed in MLB anymore.
2004-1990 - The Roid era, isn’t allowed in MLB
1985-1989 - The Collusion era, Not allowed in MLB.
1984-1969- The non-PED era, Greenies to much harsher drugs.
1968-1960 - The Raised Mound era. No longer utilized in MLB

I could go on but each era has its own identity where changes were created within the game to make it better. I was being facetious with the asterisk otherwise the entire history would have one.

Bonds wasn’t by any means the only one using, therefore it’s a era and not a erasing of stats / records. Leave it and treat it as you may.

badkarma318 · 09-06-2022, 09:29 PM

They will remain unbroken forever.

Regarding stains, Pete Rose is far worse than Bonds. He's the skid mark on MLB's underwear.

rngrdanny22 · 09-06-2022, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by badkarma318

They will remain unbroken forever.

Regarding stains, Pete Rose is far worse than Bonds. He's the skid mark on MLB's underwear.

Yeah, because he might have had 5K hits if not for betting? I'm not following...

fabiani12333 · 09-06-2022, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

Yeah, because he might have had 5K hits if not for betting? I'm not following...

https://www.sportscasting.com/pete-r...tiple-sources/

no10pin · 09-06-2022, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PokeyAndG

The single season and all-time hr records. I feel like it's sort of stuck in limbo all this time. On the one hand MLB can't remove it from the record books even though it's a huge stain on the sport, but then they totally refuse to acknowledge or glorify the hr records. I think they will be just playing the waiting game and wait for some generational talent to dethrone Bonds. could be a very long time though.

It's already been 15 & 20 years since he set those records. It's going to continue to be what it's been.

They aren't glorifying them because no one is anywhere near either of them.

fabiani12333 · 09-06-2022, 09:45 PM

You know the craziest trivia about Bonds' home run totals? He only hit 50 home runs once!

Opposing pitchers were too chicken to pitch to him.

ThoseBackPages · 09-06-2022, 09:46 PM

Bonds!

SupermanBrandon · 09-06-2022, 09:47 PM

Most feared hitter to ever live!

ThoseBackPages · 09-06-2022, 09:58 PM

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Most feared hitter to ever live!

OneSickDegen · 09-06-2022, 10:18 PM

Biohazarddfl · 09-06-2022, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PokeyAndG

The single season and all-time hr records. I feel like it's sort of stuck in limbo all this time. On the one hand MLB can't remove it from the record books even though it's a huge stain on the sport, but then they totally refuse to acknowledge or glorify the hr records. I think they will be just playing the waiting game and wait for some generational talent to dethrone Bonds. could be a very long time though.

Lmao. I don't know a single sports fan in real life that takes his records seriously. Everyone I know who is interested in sports on say, a daily basis, is talking about Judge breaking Maris' record. That's the reality.

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johnlocke36 · 09-06-2022, 11:53 PM

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Lmao. I don't know a single sports fan in real life that takes his records seriously. Everyone I know who is interested in sports on say, a daily basis, is talking about Judge breaking Maris' record. That's the reality.

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I don't know a single sports fan in real life that doesn't take his records seriously. Everyone I know who is interested in sports, or played at a very high level themselves say everybody else was on steroids also, all the pitchers he was facing were on steroids, it was an even playing field and nobody came close to putting up his stats

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k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	Nothing. Record counts. No one should beat it for a long time.

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smapdi Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 1,759 piledriver1	Nothing to really be worried about. They're not going to do anything, ever. Bonds holding those records is bad, but there are far bigger stains on MLB.

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coltsnsox07 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 21,900	The list for most homers in a season is umm, quite dubious for the non Yankees on it... 73 Barry Bonds, San Francisco (N.L.)2001 70 Mark McGwire, St. Louis (N.L.) 1998 66 Sammy Sosa, Chicago (N.L.) 1998 65 Mark McGwire, St. Louis (N.L.) 1999 64 Sammy Sosa, Chicago (N.L.) 2001 63 Sammy Sosa, Chicago (N.L.) 1999 61 Roger Maris, New York (A.L.) 1961 60 Babe Ruth, New York (A.L.) 1927 59 Babe Ruth, New York (A.L.) 1921

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regularp Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,104	He's going to continue holding them and eventually, the pearl clutchers associated with the game will fade away while the rest of us celebrate the records.

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Koolfeather98T Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 23	Could not agree more.

09-06-2022, 09:28 PM	#13
fabiani12333 Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 11,028	Comparing statistics across different eras of MLB is a flawed approach, anyway. You can't fairly compare the raw numbers of Bonds, Ruth, Aaron and Maris because they all played within significantly different playing environments and conditions. For example, the baseballs used by MLB have differed significantly throughout its history. You also have the cases of Willie Mays and Ted Williams, who both missed years of playing time due to military service. Mays got screwed out of a chance of breaking Ruth's home run record due to 2 years of military service early in his career. Even when comparing the numbers of players of the same generation, it can be unfair. For example, Bonds had to hit in very pitcher friendly Pac Bell Park, while Sammy Sosa got to hit at home run friendly Wrigley. Likewise, Willie Mays had to hit at windy and cold Candlestick Park, while Hank Aaron got to hit at warm and home run friendly Atlanta Stadium.

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fabiani12333 Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 11,028	You know the craziest trivia about Bonds' home run totals? He only hit 50 home runs once! Opposing pitchers were too chicken to pitch to him.

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