STOLEN: The Herbert Story

SCUBACOLLECTS · 09-09-2021, 08:55 AM

Soooooo my biggest fear when sending in a card to get graded has come true.

I sent in a Contenders Optic Cracked Ice Auto Justin Herbert /22 to beckett for grading. I skimped on insurance putting 1k on it and sending it out the door.

Beckett receives it on a Wednesday, has it processed and graded by Monday and send back thru fedex next day with 5k insurance.

Card goes from Texas to Memphis (main hub) checked in at 11:23pm and is never seen again.

I've reached out to FedEx and they state the package probably had the label fall off or something and they don't Hve anything that fits the description. I've reached out to beckett to begin filing the insurance claim.

Beckett says 2-3 months to resolve claim.

So at this point I just want to put the word out and hope my card turns up somewhere. But if you could please keep your eyes out for my card and let me know if anyone sees it for sale.

IpcSteveYoung · 09-09-2021, 09:01 AM

I'm really sorry this happened to you OP

I'll definitely be on the lookout out for it

rippev · 09-09-2021, 09:04 AM

That sucks OP. I’ll keep my eyes out for it, helps that it is numbered. That Memphis hub has accounted for quite a few of these stories :/

Fulmer4MVP · 09-09-2021, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rippev

That sucks OP. I’ll keep my eyes out for it, helps that it is numbered. That Memphis hub has accounted for quite a few of these stories :/

Yep, I have had 3 packages disappear there the last 2 months. I also will be on the lookout.

Dolphinsfan1127 · 09-09-2021, 09:25 AM

What's the serial number of the card?
it's good that it's numbered, will keep a look out for it.

SCUBACOLLECTS · 09-09-2021, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dolphinsfan1127

What's the serial number of the card?
it's good that it's numbered, will keep a look out for it.

19/22 - card
13391301 - slab

njsportscardguy · 09-09-2021, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fulmer4MVP

Yep, I have had 3 packages disappear there the last 2 months. I also will be on the lookout.

While that number(s) seems small on the surface, the reality of the matter is, it's HUGE!

If you, as an individual, have had 3 packages seemingly.............."disappear"...........from the very same hub in question as the OP, in two short months, that's almost certainly a tell that something much more amiss is going on in Memphis, rather than a label simply not being affixed properly. If I were a betting man, I'd bet my bottom dollar that some s.cumbags are keyed-in on packages that manifest from Beckett Grading Services. ESPECIALLY..............if they're small boxes/packages (eg; probably only 1 or 2 cards inside; most likely higher-valued contents) and are stealing them!

Fenway55 · 09-09-2021, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by njsportscardguy

While that number(s) seems small on the surface, the reality of the matter is, it's HUGE!

If you, as an individual, have had 3 packages seemingly.............."disappear"...........from the very same hub in question as the OP, in two short months, that's almost certainly a tell that something much more amiss is going on in Memphis, rather than a label simply not being affixed properly. If I were a betting man, I'd bet my bottom dollar that some s.cumbags are keyed-in on packages that manifest from Beckett Grading Services. ESPECIALLY..............if they're small boxes/packages (eg; probably only 1 or 2 cards inside; most likely higher-valued contents) and are stealing them!

My thoughts exactly.

f2tornado · 09-09-2021, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

My thoughts exactly.

Yep. The only positive from a $5k insurance claim is it is bound to get some attention somewhere in the chain of command.

boston12 · 09-09-2021, 10:08 AM

Terrible. Hopefully it can be tracked down.

PokeyAndG · 09-09-2021, 10:13 AM

so do you have to return the insurance money if you get the card back? Just wondering.

SCUBACOLLECTS · 09-09-2021, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PokeyAndG

so do you have to return the insurance money if you get the card back? Just wondering.

I'm not entirely sure I havnt gotten to that point of asking yet. But I'd prefer the card

epatmythes · 09-09-2021, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PokeyAndG

so do you have to return the insurance money if you get the card back? Just wondering.

No, if you accept an insurance settlement, you are forfeiting your legal rights to the item at that time.

PokeyAndG · 09-09-2021, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by epatmythes

No, if you accept an insurance settlement, you are forfeiting your legal rights to the item at that time.

so who would have the rights to the card if he accepts the settlement? the insurer?

Doublexthebeast · 09-09-2021, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PokeyAndG

so who would have the rights to the card if he accepts the settlement? the insurer?

I am not sure how Fedex works but the USPS auctions the item off. They run monthly auctions in Georgia for any items that get lost in the mail system whether insurance was paid or not.

Grid · 09-09-2021, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PokeyAndG

so who would have the rights to the card if he accepts the settlement? the insurer?

On any insurance claim for lost goods, the ownership of property goes to the insurance company. They paid you for your loss, and they keep the item if it ever shows up.

You would never get the money, and the item. And outside of a high profile case, most insurance companies wouldnt come back to you to trade your item, for their money. They just sell the item to regain some/all of what they paid you.

no10pin · 09-09-2021, 11:46 AM

It's a scary world out there, and UPS/FedEx are going to have to figure this out. It's pretty clear with the card market boom that more people know what they are seeing when these packages come through. I have to believe that multiple 4 and 5 figure insurance settlements will get their attention.

It's going to have to be registered mail for me and nothing else going forward.

TimBuckTwo · 09-09-2021, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by no10pin

It's a scary world out there, and UPS/FedEx are going to have to figure this out. It's pretty clear with the card market boom that more people know what they are seeing when these packages come through. I have to believe that multiple 4 and 5 figure insurance settlements will get their attention.

It's going to have to be registered mail for me and nothing else going forward.

Smart man. Very smart.

sportsfanatic · 09-09-2021, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by no10pin

It's a scary world out there, and UPS/FedEx are going to have to figure this out. It's pretty clear with the card market boom that more people know what they are seeing when these packages come through. I have to believe that multiple 4 and 5 figure insurance settlements will get their attention.

It's going to have to be registered mail for me and nothing else going forward.

Registered mail via USPS? Is that really that much more secure than the other options? I think tracking is not even updated as frequently with registered mail

Haven't really used it that much so just asking

PFF100 · 09-10-2021, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sportsfanatic

Registered mail via USPS? Is that really that much more secure than the other options? I think tracking is not even updated as frequently with registered mail

Haven't really used it that much so just asking

Yeah it’s the most secure. It goes into a lock box and if I’m not mistaken signed off by both parties (postal workers) every time it changes hands

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no10pin · 09-10-2021, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsfanatic

Registered mail via USPS? Is that really that much more secure than the other options? I think tracking is not even updated as frequently with registered mail

Haven't really used it that much so just asking

Much more secure. I realize that USPS has a reputation as well, but registered mail is a different story.

PokeyAndG · 09-09-2021, 11:49 AM

fedex been losing a couple of my #@#@#@#@ too. If you lose my stuff, Tom Hanks better be stuck on an island somewhere.

Asian62150 · 09-09-2021, 11:51 AM

OP, sorry to hear that happened to you. Hope the card turns up.

Does Beckett send their cards back in boxes plastered with Beckett all over the box like PSA does?

With the card boom, announcing the package contains graded cards contributes to this kind of problem.

rebbrooks · 09-09-2021, 12:08 PM

I thought Fedex would only pay $1000 on collectibles. Anybody know for sure?

JeremyNick · 09-09-2021, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rebbrooks

I thought Fedex would only pay $1000 on collectibles. Anybody know for sure?

It’s not a collectible.

It’s an “asset”.

09-09-2021, 08:55 AM	#1
SCUBACOLLECTS Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 4	STOLEN: The Herbert Story Soooooo my biggest fear when sending in a card to get graded has come true. I sent in a Contenders Optic Cracked Ice Auto Justin Herbert /22 to beckett for grading. I skimped on insurance putting 1k on it and sending it out the door. Beckett receives it on a Wednesday, has it processed and graded by Monday and send back thru fedex next day with 5k insurance. Card goes from Texas to Memphis (main hub) checked in at 11:23pm and is never seen again. I've reached out to FedEx and they state the package probably had the label fall off or something and they don't Hve anything that fits the description. I've reached out to beckett to begin filing the insurance claim. Beckett says 2-3 months to resolve claim. So at this point I just want to put the word out and hope my card turns up somewhere. But if you could please keep your eyes out for my card and let me know if anyone sees it for sale.

09-09-2021, 09:01 AM	#2
IpcSteveYoung Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: New York Posts: 1,285	I'm really sorry this happened to you OP I'll definitely be on the lookout out for it Last edited by IpcSteveYoung; 09-09-2021 at 09:05 AM.

09-09-2021, 11:46 AM	#17
no10pin Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 17,003 no10pin no10pin	It's a scary world out there, and UPS/FedEx are going to have to figure this out. It's pretty clear with the card market boom that more people know what they are seeing when these packages come through. I have to believe that multiple 4 and 5 figure insurance settlements will get their attention. It's going to have to be registered mail for me and nothing else going forward. __________________ Always looking for more George Brett stuff. Need more rookies, low numbered inserts/parallels and on-card autos (no Panini).

09-09-2021, 11:51 AM	#23
Asian62150 Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 7,276 Asian62150	OP, sorry to hear that happened to you. Hope the card turns up. Does Beckett send their cards back in boxes plastered with Beckett all over the box like PSA does? With the card boom, announcing the package contains graded cards contributes to this kind of problem. __________________ IG: Asian62150

09-09-2021, 09:04 AM	#3
rippev Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: New Mexico Posts: 2,716	That sucks OP. I’ll keep my eyes out for it, helps that it is numbered. That Memphis hub has accounted for quite a few of these stories :/

09-09-2021, 09:25 AM	#5
Dolphinsfan1127 Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Atlanta Posts: 765 evebau86	What's the serial number of the card? it's good that it's numbered, will keep a look out for it.

09-09-2021, 10:08 AM	#10
boston12 Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 3,283	Terrible. Hopefully it can be tracked down.

09-09-2021, 10:13 AM	#11
PokeyAndG Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 1,087	so do you have to return the insurance money if you get the card back? Just wondering.

09-09-2021, 11:49 AM	#22
PokeyAndG Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 1,087	fedex been losing a couple of my #@#@#@#@ too. If you lose my stuff, Tom Hanks better be stuck on an island somewhere.

09-09-2021, 12:08 PM	#24
rebbrooks Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 768	I thought Fedex would only pay $1000 on collectibles. Anybody know for sure?