Hidden Fates Tins and ETBs

[Vinny1984]

I’ve made up my mind that I’m going to rip some hidden fates. From breaks ive watched on tins, it seems pretty “reasonable” to at least get my money back in value.

Why are the tins so much cheaper than ETBs? $9 per pack in the tins compared to $30 in the ETBs. Surely the promo card doesn’t make up the price discrepancy. What gives?

[elny43]

Well this is a reprint of the tins while the ETBs weren't reprinted so more tins out there. Also, ETBs tend to be more collectible.

[Vinny1984]

I get the reprint but there is nothing on the card that calls it out as a reprint correct? Wouldn’t that still drop the price of the trainers?

[elny43]

Originally Posted by Vinny1984

I get the reprint but there is nothing on the card that calls it out as a reprint correct? Wouldn’t that still drop the price of the trainers?

That's right, there wasn't a 1st edition print or anything from the first time around. But I think you need to look at the tins and ETBs separately. It's not purely a price per pack calc. There's a limited supply of sealed ETBs and ppl will pay a premium for a limited sealed product.

[Vinny1984]

Originally Posted by elny43

That's right, there wasn't a 1st edition print or anything from the first time around. But I think you need to look at the tins and ETBs separately. It's not purely a price per pack calc. There's a limited supply of sealed ETBs and ppl will pay a premium for a limited sealed product.

Gotcha thanks! I don’t collect sealed wax so I have very limited knowledge on it. I just want to rip and the tins seem affordable for what you get.

[elny43]

Originally Posted by Vinny1984

Gotcha thanks! I don’t collect sealed wax so I have very limited knowledge on it. I just want to rip and the tins seem affordable for what you get.

For sure go after the tins if you're ripping (which are also good to hold sealed too)!

[eastbayak]

I just bought 6 tins for $199.99 the other day. Also barely missed out on 2 Target restocks on Saturday

[Vinny1984]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

I just bought 6 tins for $199.99 the other day. Also barely missed out on 2 Target restocks on Saturday

Ripping or holding?

[eastbayak]

Holding these.

If I get any of the online Target/WM restocks at retail though, I'll probably rip a few.

[mcwildcats]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Holding these.

If I get any of the online Target/WM restocks at retail though, I'll probably rip a few.

I found 4 more boxes last week. Hope there is another re-stock of these this week.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by mcwildcats

I found 4 more boxes last week. Hope there is another re-stock of these this week.

NICE!!! I went to a couple stores over the past few days, nada.

[MFaulkCollector]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

NICE!!! I went to a couple stores over the past few days, nada.

When all retail pretty much closed that was considered non-essential....... game stop had curb side pick up only at their stores nation-wide. This began around early april i believe. they had a 20 percent off sale on toy and this included cards...... every single one of the game stops within an hour of me had the 10 pack sealed ball collections in stock (im sure everywhere across the us had them as stock was available through the middle of may at some locations; so if it didnt sell out in 6 weeks im sure people just didn't know about it).... i got 13 of these at 40 per...... to this day it's the best hidden fates wax deal i've ever seen (although the 9.99 tins on black friday was a huge win if you could find them)..... but the game stop sale was after they had really started increasing in value; it was really weird that nobody was buying them around me

[alessandrosam]

Originally Posted by MFaulkCollector

When all retail pretty much closed that was considered non-essential....... game stop had curb side pick up only at their stores nation-wide. This began around early april i believe. they had a 20 percent off sale on toy and this included cards...... every single one of the game stops within an hour of me had the 10 pack sealed ball collections in stock (im sure everywhere across the us had them as stock was available through the middle of may at some locations; so if it didnt sell out in 6 weeks im sure people just didn't know about it).... i got 13 of these at 40 per...... to this day it's the best hidden fates wax deal i've ever seen (although the 9.99 tins on black friday was a huge win if you could find them)..... but the game stop sale was after they had really started increasing in value; it was really weird that nobody was buying them around me

In March/April you could of bought Luka Exquisite RPA for less than 2k, same card sold for over 50k a month back.
It was a different time then for everything.

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[alessandrosam]

I've been buying up a ton of the tins and collection boxes. Ripped a few.
Have to say Hidden Fates is one of my fav pack rips. A foil in every pack. Can't go wrong with that.
Yet to pull the SV49.
Purchased the card graded and raw separately as well.
Just a gorgeous card overall.
I have been trying to understand what will more likely get you the big blue guy.
Ripping from tins or boxes and which character.
Talking to a lot of the pokemon guys at Frank N Sons who own booths and ripped a lot of it. Doesnt seem to be any pattern.
But.....
A few guys said the ETBs had the worst pull rate compared to tins or boxes chasing Sv49.

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[TimBuckTwo]

I read somewhere your best bet is tins and
of those - Gyrados, Picakchu, Charizard in that order.

[sandlotsportcards]

My son pulled a Charizard out of a Gyrados tin. It was the very last tin he opened and we never found any more of them around here.

[BravesFan4Life]

ETBs also have the promo that seems to sell decently. I opened a bunch of tins and a couple ETBs during the initial release. I felt the ETBs I had the best pulls but I did not hit super great as it was. Hoping to find a few more of the restock tins, still no Champion's Path for me either :/

[nera20]

what is msrp retail on tins?

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by nera20

what is msrp retail on tins?

$19.99

[Kmm1116]

I’m still wondering if the reprints that run will have a “2nd edition” stamp on it... or something

[rhynodino]

Originally Posted by Kmm1116

I’m still wondering if the reprints that run will have a “2nd edition” stamp on it... or something

They do not
Reprint tins have came out and are just packaged differently than the original prints
Dates are also the same

[Kmm1116]

How much more are they printing I wonder?

[actionbryan]

Sports collector here.

I bought some hidden fates tins I found in the wild (11)

What should I do with them ? Rip (I have no idea what the contents are ) hold ? Resell?
What is the learning curve for understanding what I’d even be pulling ?

[alessandrosam]

Originally Posted by actionbryan

Sports collector here.

I bought some hidden fates tins I found in the wild (11)

What should I do with them ? Rip (I have no idea what the contents are ) hold ? Resell?
What is the learning curve for understanding what I’d even be pulling ?

Tcgplayer is a great resource to know on the fly raw pricing.

But there is one card you are looking for ....
The sv 49 shining charizard. The big blue bastard.

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[actionbryan]

Any idea on approximate odds of pulling it assuming a fair collation ?
1 in 10 tins ? 100? 1000?

Is there other overlay or is it strictly feast or famine ?