Shaq or Magic

centrelink · 09-27-2016, 10:03 PM

Which player would you rather have on your team.

8collector34 · 09-27-2016, 10:04 PM

You kidding or what? I would take Shaq over MJ.

Chick Hearn · 09-27-2016, 10:04 PM

This is a tough one, but I'm going to say Magic. He played all 5 positions and won the Finals MVP as a rookie.

drobfan8 · 09-27-2016, 10:07 PM

Wow, I would take Magic any day of the week.

He was incredible.

rdleifriaf · 09-27-2016, 10:24 PM

Magic.

bruce76 · 09-27-2016, 10:30 PM

For the purposes of answering the question. I would say Shaq. For this very reason......it would be easier to find a player like magic for your team to pair with Shaq than the other way around. At the height of their powers Shaq was unstoppable. He was automatic. More players out there to choose from that were like magic.

WE_GOT_THAT_TOO · 09-27-2016, 10:37 PM

Tough one...right off the bat, Magic. But as Bruce said, when you think about it, Shaq is irreplaceable. Sure, Magic is more than amazing and one of the best to play the game all around. But there are other players that could be 70% of Magic. Not sure if there is anyone that can get close to 70% of Shaq. His presence in the paint and his size just can't be found.

paulgeorge13 · 09-27-2016, 10:51 PM

Why are we choosing between a guard and a center? This is a weird question to answer.

Sanborn · 09-27-2016, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by paulgeorge13

Why are we choosing between a guard and a center? This is a weird question to answer.

This.

I would prefer Shaq for the comedic value, Magic for the tail!

rats60 · 09-27-2016, 10:51 PM

Magic by a lot. There was no player like Magic. The closest would be Bill Russell. He was the ultimate team player. Magic made everyone on the team better.

As far as who could replace Shaq, Hakeem dominated him head to head. Duncan was better. Then you got the Old school guys, Wilt, Russell and Kareem.

Ottomatic · 09-27-2016, 10:53 PM

Tough. When you think about the group of guys right behind the MJ/Lebron tier these are two of the first guys I think of. It's a toss up IMO.

dasiegel · 09-27-2016, 10:54 PM

I think it's Magic by a decent amount. More all around value and irreplaceable leadership. If Shaq had Magic's leadership and focus he probably has 7 rings.

drobfan8 · 09-27-2016, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dasiegel

I think it's Magic by a decent amount. More all around value and irreplaceable leadership. If Shaq had Magic's leadership and focus he probably has 7 rings.

Agreed.

Plus, Shaq wasn't even the best player at his position. I'd take Russell, KAJ and Hakeem over him.

I also can't remember Magic being bailed out by the refs as much as Shaq's Lakers were.

D. Fish 0.4 sec shot that should never have counted.
Por vs LA where the refs literally gave LA every call to erase that deficit.
Sac vs LA where it was blatant cheating.

WHyFLy · 09-27-2016, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

Agreed.

Plus, Shaq wasn't even the best player at his position. I'd take Russell, KAJ and Hakeem over him.

I also can't remember Magic being bailed out by the refs as much as Shaq's Lakers were.

D. Fish 0.4 sec shot that should never have counted.
Por vs LA where the refs literally gave LA every call to erase that deficit.
Sac vs LA where it was blatant cheating.

Regardless of being a Hawks fan, that Sac vs LA game was absolute worse game I've ever watched in my life. Not only were players like Bibby and Webber robbed of a finals opportunity, the integrity of the game itself was shot.

WE_GOT_THAT_TOO · 09-27-2016, 11:42 PM

LOL SMH

There's so many of these examples for every team/player. This is just pointless info.

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

Agreed.

Plus, Shaq wasn't even the best player at his position. I'd take Russell, KAJ and Hakeem over him.

I also can't remember Magic being bailed out by the refs as much as Shaq's Lakers were.

D. Fish 0.4 sec shot that should never have counted.
Por vs LA where the refs literally gave LA every call to erase that deficit.
Sac vs LA where it was blatant cheating.

drobfan8 · 09-28-2016, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by WE_GOT_THAT_TOO

LOL SMH

There's so many of these examples for every team/player. This is just pointless info.

LOL SMH, got an opinion of your own to add or just trolling my post?

The rigging of games for Shaqs Lakers clearly isn't the crux of my decision, but as a Spurs fan I remember the BS Shaq and Kobe got away with in those days, hell I don't remember anyone calling my Spurs lucky for some BS ref crap.

Nyfancam01 · 09-28-2016, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

LOL SMH, got an opinion of your own to add or just trolling my post?

The rigging of games for Shaqs Lakers clearly isn't the crux of my decision, but as a Spurs fan I remember the BS Shaq and Kobe got away with in those days, hell I don't remember anyone calling my Spurs lucky for some BS ref crap.

The KINGS Webber/Bibby/Peja/Christie beat the Lakers! Anybody who knows anything about basketball saw what happened! The officials made sure L.A got the win. So sickening still!!! That Kings squad was amazing.

WE_GOT_THAT_TOO · 09-28-2016, 01:51 AM

Not sure why your so pissed off. Do you think I was the red to all those instances? I was stating the FACT that each player and team has at one point or another had bad calls happen to them. If you disagree, we can start another thread for that as to not hijack this one. Just because they beat your team, no need to put each play under a microscope. It's all part of the game. They make crappy calls all the time. It's out of everyone's control so you get upset then life goes on. Being hurt about it 10 years later don't change anything.

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

LOL SMH, got an opinion of your own to add or just trolling my post?

n1nesports · 09-28-2016, 08:46 AM

Tough as heck. Probably Shaq though.

GC1980 · 09-28-2016, 09:37 AM

As much as I love Shaq both as a personality and the player he was, if I am a GM of this fantasy team it's Magic and it's not even remotely close.

There has and likely never will be a player like Magic Johnson. In my opinion, he was the single most unique talent to ever play the game. His combination of size and versatility, his unparalleled court vision, leadership and court awareness...

There have been better centers than Shaq (Kareem, Wilt, Olajuwon) and plenty others that weren't so far behind him. At PG the drop off from Magic to teh next best is much much greater.

Shaq is one of my all time favorites but Magic might just be the 2nd best player to ever play the game.

smalltown · 09-28-2016, 07:41 AM

Magic. No hesitation.

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Originally Posted by dasiegel

irreplaceable leadership.

People discount the ability to lead way too much. This and desire to win really separate the Greats in my mind.

6celtics33 · 09-28-2016, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by smalltown

Magic. No hesitation.

People discount the ability to lead way too much. This and desire to win really separate the Greats in my mind.

People that have never been on a team with a winning culture don't believe that exists. They think it's just whoever is around you or what coach you have or whatever. The greats elevate and Magic is in the Russell, Jordan, Bird category in that regard.

BigZigBoom · 09-27-2016, 10:59 PM

BJ Armstrong

WHyFLy · 09-27-2016, 11:00 PM

This is hard to answer because both played different positions. It is like asking who was better?... To answer, I'd have to say Magic Johnson. The guy absolutely dominated the PG position, essentially playing all 5 positions as one. Playing a PG who was not only stronger and bigger than any other PG, but could run the floor, shoot, pass, and move, you cannot find anyone better than him.

ThirtyPercent · 09-27-2016, 11:04 PM

Shaq.

09-27-2016, 10:03 PM	#1
centrelink Banned - PBM Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 676	Shaq or Magic Which player would you rather have on your team.

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Chick Hearn Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,106 lakerfaninchicago petesportscards	This is a tough one, but I'm going to say Magic. He played all 5 positions and won the Finals MVP as a rookie. __________________ Collecting Minneapolis / Los Angeles Lakers Items The Collection - https://www.flickr.com/photos/27448927@N04/albums/

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bruce76 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: miami Posts: 302	For the purposes of answering the question. I would say Shaq. For this very reason......it would be easier to find a player like magic for your team to pair with Shaq than the other way around. At the height of their powers Shaq was unstoppable. He was automatic. More players out there to choose from that were like magic.

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WE_GOT_THAT_TOO Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: What's the difference? Posts: 3,651 WE_GOT_THAT_TOO WE_GOT_THAT_TOO	Tough one...right off the bat, Magic. But as Bruce said, when you think about it, Shaq is irreplaceable. Sure, Magic is more than amazing and one of the best to play the game all around. But there are other players that could be 70% of Magic. Not sure if there is anyone that can get close to 70% of Shaq. His presence in the paint and his size just can't be found. __________________ Paying Top $$$ For 2006-07 SP Signature Edition Signatures Gold /10 Steve Kerr & Jorge Garbajosa

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paulgeorge13 Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Arizona Posts: 413	Why are we choosing between a guard and a center? This is a weird question to answer.

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rats60 Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 9,928	Magic by a lot. There was no player like Magic. The closest would be Bill Russell. He was the ultimate team player. Magic made everyone on the team better. As far as who could replace Shaq, Hakeem dominated him head to head. Duncan was better. Then you got the Old school guys, Wilt, Russell and Kareem.

09-27-2016, 10:53 PM	#11
Ottomatic Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 4,141 Ottomatic	Tough. When you think about the group of guys right behind the MJ/Lebron tier these are two of the first guys I think of. It's a toss up IMO.

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dasiegel Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 27,556	I think it's Magic by a decent amount. More all around value and irreplaceable leadership. If Shaq had Magic's leadership and focus he probably has 7 rings. __________________ Board man. Board man gets paid.

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n1nesports Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,107	Tough as heck. Probably Shaq though.

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GC1980 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: NYC Posts: 3,918	As much as I love Shaq both as a personality and the player he was, if I am a GM of this fantasy team it's Magic and it's not even remotely close. There has and likely never will be a player like Magic Johnson. In my opinion, he was the single most unique talent to ever play the game. His combination of size and versatility, his unparalleled court vision, leadership and court awareness... There have been better centers than Shaq (Kareem, Wilt, Olajuwon) and plenty others that weren't so far behind him. At PG the drop off from Magic to teh next best is much much greater. Shaq is one of my all time favorites but Magic might just be the 2nd best player to ever play the game.

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BigZigBoom Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,838	BJ Armstrong

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WHyFLy Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,028 youeyscollectibles youeyscollectibles	This is hard to answer because both played different positions. It is like asking who was better?... To answer, I'd have to say Magic Johnson. The guy absolutely dominated the PG position, essentially playing all 5 positions as one. Playing a PG who was not only stronger and bigger than any other PG, but could run the floor, shoot, pass, and move, you cannot find anyone better than him. __________________ "Risk Something Or Forever Sit With Your Dreams" - Herb Brooks Always Buying! Selling! Trading! Instagram: YoueysCollectibles

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ThirtyPercent Banned - PBM Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Tejás Posts: 123 Supersayin9000	Shaq.