Charles Barkley: Idea That Dellavedova Stopped Curry Is 'Ridiculous'

[hazenuts]

Charles Barkley Says Idea That Dellavedova Stopped Curry Is 'Ridiculous' | Bleacher Report

"People need to slow down giving [Dellavedova] so much credit," Sir Charles added on The B/R Spotlight with Nicole Zaloumis and Ric Bucher. "Steph Curry will kill that kid in the overall scheme of things. He just didn't make shots last night."

[afrobandit]

Is he wrong tho?

[asujbl]

I love Chuck - but you can say that about basically any player in any game - it's a ridiculous take because that's what defense is.

What exactly does Barkley want him to do?

Is every shot that LeBron misses simply a matter of "missing" and not potentially the defense?

Did Delly "stop" Curry? No - Curry had an off night

Did Delly do everything he could do, and play one hell of a defensive game, that made Curry take some difficult shots? Absolutely.

Barkley should tell some NFL guys that they can't stop Andrew Luck - he just missed some passes.

[gomiamigo]

Charles is not wrong. DD's defense looked 'great' because Curry missed open shots. He doesn't start shooting airballs because DD suddenly came up with some magical way to defend Curry that no one else thought of yet.

[GoClips!]

The key to defense is making your opponent take the most difficult shot possible. Delly absolutely did that. Now, in general, great offense will always beat great defense, on any given play, but Steph didn't have that greatness last night. Delly did his job, and should be applauded for making it as tough as possible on Steph.

It's no coincidence that Steph has had a tough time in this series, dating back to the regular season. We'll see how he responds in Game 3.

[muzikandme]

Originally Posted by asujbl

I love Chuck - but you can say that about basically any player in any game - it's a ridiculous take because that's what defense is.

What exactly does Barkley want him to do?

Is every shot that LeBron misses simply a matter of "missing" and not potentially the defense?

Did Delly "stop" Curry? No - Curry had an off night

Did Delly do everything he could do, and play one hell of a defensive game, that made Curry take some difficult shots? Absolutely.

Barkley should tell some NFL guys that they can't stop Andrew Luck - he just missed some passes.

I don't think anyone could explain it better then this post.

[holyWahoos]

Of course some of it was Curry having an off night, but to not give Delly any credit is ridiculous. How Matthew Dellavedova defended Stephen Curry in Game 2

[hairyharold]

he was more confident in a bad way. wasn't as focused with DD on him...wasn't geared up for that "challenge" or lack there of in his mind

[paul06901]

The real truth to all of this is that Dellavedova is a GREAT defender, but he alone did not cause Curry to shoot so poorly.

The Cavaliers as a team did. They doubled him on almost every pick and roll.

The other Warriors didn't shoot well, and Curry didn't handle the double teams very well.


Draymond green should be punishing the Cavs from the outside ... and he's barely even getting any shots up. Bogut is non-existent on the offensive end and getting demolished by Mozgov. Klay is inconsistent at best. Warriors simply can't score the ball easily. Curry can't, nobody can.



MD's defense is very good, don't get my wrong. But he's not the reason Curry had a poor shooting night - he's PART of the reason.

Curry needs to be more aggressive and Harden-esque. Look to draw fouls from Dellavedova so he doesn't play so tight and get away with all of the grabbing and illegal contact he has been. Stop settling for contested, early-shot-clock jumpers unless you have Tristan Thompson guarding you. Draw fouls on MD. Be smart about it. Stop trying to shoot your way out of it.

[irfuji]

It's just not a black and white question and answer.

To me I would say Delly was 30% responsible for Curry's off night, with the other 70% being that Curry was simply off.

Curry missed a number of open shots that he would typically shoot like 90% from.

Where Curry really kills you is that he not only hits those open shots but he hits those well defended shots also. Last night he did neither.

[sonnyday]

Originally Posted by paul06901

The real truth to all of this is that Dellavedova is a GREAT defender, but he alone did not cause Curry to shoot so poorly.

Let's not call Delly a GREAT defender just yet. Yes he played his shoes off in the last two playoff series. But he had some absolutely horrendous regular season games getting beat by plenty of back up PG's.

But I hope he can keep it up for the remainder of the finals.

[chitownbears22]

I think there is a mixture of Delladova, team defense, and a bad game. I think they are all connected though. Curry shot 21.7% last night, his lowest shooting % all season. In February when they played Curry posted his 5th lowest shooting% of the season (29.4%). I personally just think that Delladova did a good job staying connected to Curry, not giving up on him after a pick, and putting a hand in his face. The big thing he did was not allow seperation on pick n rolls, which is how Curry often gets clearer looks at the basket.

So I think it is a combination of a good game plan, and good execution by the players in charge of staying on Curry.

[drobfan8]

It's good to see some people show some very good understanding of the defensive side of the game.

Delly did a great job where others would have let curry get a rhythm. Job done. Now we'll see if he can do it again or whether the MVP will adjust.

As long as either Klay or steph are playing below avg the Cavs are a chance.

[markinca]

If Curry has an off night, then that means his defender was awesome.

If Curry is on fire, then that means that Curry was awesome.

That's what happens when you're MVP.

[chitownbears22]

Originally Posted by markinca

If Curry has an off night, then that means his defender was awesome.

If Curry is on fire, then that means that Curry was awesome.

That's what happens when you're MVP.

If Curry shot 5/15 from 3 and 8/23 overall I would say it was just a poor shooting night, but his numbers last night, and then shootting 0/8 on Delly and 0/5 from 3 on Delly tells me something else. Cleveland had a good game plan, and MD executed it to perfection.

Cleveland is 5-0 in the playoffs when MD plays 30+ minutes.

[AlabamaSlamma]

Delly went full Bruce Bowen. Curry had one of his worst shooting nights in a very long time. Correlation does not necessarily imply causation, but the two events are not completely independent of one another, either.

In conclusion, Clevelandsux, Manziel is a dope, Lebron couldn't beat Kwame in their primes, etc etc etc etc fartnoises.

[eastbayak]

Doesn't matter what percentage you want to attribute to Delly's D. Fact of the matter is, he did what he needed to do to get the W. This comes from a Dubs fan. Even the missed open looks can be attributed to an extent to Delly's D.

Dubs need to figure a game plan for Game 3, i.e. double screens or utilizing any double teaming to their benefit, etc.

[gatorboymike]

What is this "Dellavedova" I keep hearing about? Some kind of lunchmeat?

[lucky4444]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Charles is not wrong. DD's defense looked 'great' because Curry missed open shots. He doesn't start shooting airballs because DD suddenly came up with some magical way to defend Curry that no one else thought of yet.

he played great d that night

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by AlabamaSlamma

Delly went full Bruce Bowen. Curry had one of his worst shooting nights in a very long time. Correlation does not necessarily imply causation, but the two events are not completely independent of one another, either.

In conclusion, Clevelandsux, Manziel is a dope, Lebron couldn't beat Kwame in their primes, etc etc etc etc fartnoises.

Pretty much spot on.

Except you added a "is a" after Manziel

He's just dope.

[indyguy]

Originally Posted by GoClips!

The key to defense is making your opponent take the most difficult shot possible. Delly absolutely did that. Now, in general, great offense will always beat great defense, on any given play, but Steph didn't have that greatness last night. Delly did his job, and should be applauded for making it as tough as possible on Steph.

It's no coincidence that Steph has had a tough time in this series, dating back to the regular season. We'll see how he responds in Game 3.

10/20 shooting is not a "tough time" in game 1.

Dellavedova only played nine minutes in game 1 and only 10 minutes in their regular season game in February.

[RYBOWSKI97]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

It's good to see some people show some very good understanding of the defensive side of the game.

Delly did a great job where others would have let curry get a rhythm. Job done. Now we'll see if he can do it again or whether the MVP will adjust.

As long as either Klay or steph are playing below avg the Cavs are a chance.

In game 1 irving was getting killed by the screens from bogut, etc and curry was getting open shots all night. Delly did his job, getting thru and around the screen and not giving curry much of an open look. the exact opposite happened with klay thompson in game 2. jr smith was trying to be cute and cut thru screens, etc and was getting trapped which led to thompson having too many open looks and was on fire the first half. I dont think curry liked delly in his face all game and was expecting that. Lets just hope curry doesnt have an insane shooting game hes capable of....wont matter who is in his face if he gets hot.

[groundsupport]

So we can say that Iggy forced Lebron to miss 24 shots?

[RYBOWSKI97]

Originally Posted by groundsupport

So we can say that Iggy forced Lebron to miss 24 shots?

no but the trio of iggy, green, barnes did.

[xavieronly1]

Originally Posted by groundsupport

So we can say that Iggy forced Lebron to miss 24 shots?

You don't get to discuss those 24 missed shots when you win game!