1998 Kobe Metal Universe PMG Gem Masters FAKE?

alleyoops · 01-07-2018, 11:55 PM

Do people think this card is real??

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-99-SKY...S/292399891251

ThoseBackPages · 01-08-2018, 01:45 AM

yes i do believe it is not real

GOLDPRIZM · 01-08-2018, 02:00 AM

Unfortunately this card does not match up with the picture I have of the Kobe Gem Masters. I would have to believe its fake, I will try to add pics tomorrow if someone else doesn't beat me to it.

Doublexthebeast · 01-08-2018, 08:16 AM

Even if it is real, could you get worse pictures? I can't stand when people do auctions and can't even take good pics/scans. I think it is fake from other Gem Masters that I have seen.

COMCMax · 01-08-2018, 08:22 AM

I think I figured it out. He put a regular Kobe is that Rock Tumbler he has for sale and it came out a gem.

8collector34 · 01-08-2018, 09:04 AM

*popcorn ready

How do you figure it is fake?

kukocitb · 01-08-2018, 09:14 AM

I am pretty sure there was a fake Jordan the last couple years. It was for sale by either probstein or PWCC and it was pulled once the owner of the real one came forward. I don't know if it is real or not but the pics are bad and if it was real I think they would have done a better job taking pics.

Jasondr91 · 01-08-2018, 09:19 AM

Other than Abra popping back in for another thread last night, this might be entertaining to follow. Love the yellowed crap top loader for added effect.

minnesotachill · 01-08-2018, 09:22 AM

http://picssr.com/photos/146475868@N...=146475868@N06

Jasondr91 · 01-08-2018, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by minnesotachill

http://picssr.com/photos/146475868@N...=146475868@N06

Good Lord what a collection.

domin824 · 01-08-2018, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by minnesotachill

http://picssr.com/photos/146475868@N...=146475868@N06

Wow, thanks for sharing, 1St time seeing this awesome PC!

GOLDPRIZM · 01-08-2018, 11:41 AM

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This is the one on ebay

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This is the one from the link above

Right off the bat you can clearly see the stamp is not in the same place. I also find it hard to believe someone selling a card of this value cant get better pictures then the ones he has up now.

Doublexthebeast · 01-08-2018, 11:50 AM

It is hard to believe that anyone would try and sell a card this valuable without grading it. I am not saying that it is fool proof but it would certainly help make a case for it being real.

the27guy · 01-08-2018, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Doublexthebeast

It is hard to believe that anyone would try and sell a card this valuable without grading it. I am not saying that it is fool proof but it would certainly help make a case for it being real.

Beckett has stopped grading some of the 90's fleer 1/1's.... not sure about this set.... but something to keep in mind.

Sorry for pumping my old thread.... but somewhere in the first 1/2 of the OP here.... https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1173123

Doublexthebeast · 01-08-2018, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by the27guy

Beckett has stopped grading some of the 90's fleer 1/1's.... not sure about this set.... but something to keep in mind.

Sorry for pumping my old thread.... but somewhere in the first 1/2 of the OP here.... https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1173123

Yeah, I knew they had stopped grading some of them. I was at their facility about 6 months ago and asked them about grading one of my Hill masterpieces but they wouldn't. They told me that they were going to stop grading them. They won't grade those and PSA won't grade Star cards. It is what it is but it really sucks when the experts won't touch some cards.

8collector34 · 01-08-2018, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Doublexthebeast

Yeah, I knew they had stopped grading some of them. I was at their facility about 6 months ago and asked them about grading one of my Hill masterpieces but they wouldn't. They told me that they were going to stop grading them. They won't grade those and PSA won't grade Star cards. It is what it is but it really sucks when the experts won't touch some cards.

The only experts I trust are the members of this board.

ninjacookies · 01-08-2018, 06:03 PM

Always the guy selling miscellaneous used denims, shoulder supports, quilts, and floral home accessories that just so happens to break out a hobby grail....

01-07-2018, 11:55 PM	#1
alleyoops Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 143	1998 Kobe Metal Universe PMG Gem Masters FAKE? Do people think this card is real?? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-99-SKY...S/292399891251

01-08-2018, 01:45 AM	#2
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,107 ThoseBackPages	yes i do believe it is not real __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

01-08-2018, 08:16 AM	#4
Doublexthebeast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 8,806	Even if it is real, could you get worse pictures? I can't stand when people do auctions and can't even take good pics/scans. I think it is fake from other Gem Masters that I have seen. __________________ Shane McClanahan Super Collector. Always Buying.

01-08-2018, 09:04 AM	#6
8collector34 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 1,316 8collector34 xv3elnino	*popcorn ready How do you figure it is fake? __________________ People speaking on my verses, they don't know me, in fact. Me and these whack rappers get along like Kobe and Shaq. "K-Rino"

01-08-2018, 09:14 AM	#7
kukocitb Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,670 Kukocitb515 Kukocitb	I am pretty sure there was a fake Jordan the last couple years. It was for sale by either probstein or PWCC and it was pulled once the owner of the real one came forward. I don't know if it is real or not but the pics are bad and if it was real I think they would have done a better job taking pics. __________________ "You're THE Kukoc guy" Abra Calabro "Kukocitb is the GOAT??? I knew that..." Dajuan Wagner Kukoc COUNTER: 1448 different!!!!! Robin Lopez Counter 691 different!

01-08-2018, 02:00 AM	#3
GOLDPRIZM Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: USA Posts: 146	Unfortunately this card does not match up with the picture I have of the Kobe Gem Masters. I would have to believe its fake, I will try to add pics tomorrow if someone else doesn't beat me to it.

01-08-2018, 08:22 AM	#5
COMCMax Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 8,912 Maximoose	I think I figured it out. He put a regular Kobe is that Rock Tumbler he has for sale and it came out a gem.

01-08-2018, 09:19 AM	#8
Jasondr91 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Behind the Pokemon cards at WalMart Posts: 4,549 Jasondr91	Other than Abra popping back in for another thread last night, this might be entertaining to follow. Love the yellowed crap top loader for added effect. __________________ Still collecting certain Aleksandaя "Sasha" Pavlovic items since 2004. "The United States has become a place where professional athletes and entertainers are mistaken for people of importance." - Robert Heinlein

01-08-2018, 09:22 AM	#9
minnesotachill Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,883	http://picssr.com/photos/146475868@N...=146475868@N06

01-08-2018, 11:41 AM	#12
GOLDPRIZM Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: USA Posts: 146	This is the one on ebay This is the one from the link above Right off the bat you can clearly see the stamp is not in the same place. I also find it hard to believe someone selling a card of this value cant get better pictures then the ones he has up now.

01-08-2018, 11:50 AM	#13
Doublexthebeast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 8,806	It is hard to believe that anyone would try and sell a card this valuable without grading it. I am not saying that it is fool proof but it would certainly help make a case for it being real. __________________ Shane McClanahan Super Collector. Always Buying.

01-08-2018, 06:03 PM	#17
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 56,494	Always the guy selling miscellaneous used denims, shoulder supports, quilts, and floral home accessories that just so happens to break out a hobby grail....