Clayton Kershaw - Will a dominant postseason do much to his hobby value?

Nostalgia · 10-02-2020, 07:45 AM

He's arguably the best pitcher since 2000, and may go down as a top 5 pitcher ever. His regular season stats definitely support it. The only blemish on his resume is his postseason failures.

You can get Kershaw cards relatively cheap, but pitcher card hobby value is never that high.

I think his 2008 Topps UH is a very nice card.

tonedef2oo8 · 10-02-2020, 07:53 AM

No it will not .

actionbryan · 10-02-2020, 07:54 AM

It’ll certainly help. Sort of analogous to Drew Brees , great career and at least one championship is icing on the cake. Maybe not a perfect example though because of Brees passing records

I own nothing of him but if he pulls a 2014 Madbum , I’ll probably pay the hyped pricing for his Rc

unclemonkey · 10-02-2020, 08:05 AM

I don't see it.

He seems fairly valued ATM.

2010GBPackers · 10-02-2020, 08:10 AM

He's a long-term bet. HOFers in the twighlight of their career don't fare well in our current hobby market. But with a strong postseason, (and he had a great start to that last night) I can see people's eyes being opened and noticing how undervalued his cards are for being an all-time Top 10 pitcher (at least).

Thor34 · 10-02-2020, 08:24 AM

Yes..

coachnip13 · 10-02-2020, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

He's a long-term bet. HOFers in the twighlight of their career don't fare well in our current hobby market. But with a strong postseason, (and he had a great start to that last night) I can see people's eyes being opened and noticing how undervalued his cards are for being an all-time Top 10 pitcher (at least).

He's 32.

speedyjg13 · 10-02-2020, 08:39 AM

I don't think so

Nostalgia · 10-02-2020, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by coachnip13

He's 32.

Looking at his regular season stats......there is definitely an argument to be made that he is a top 5 (and maybe the best) regular season pitcher all-time.

He can have a few more great years...but he can also start to regress quickly. Last season he had his first 3.00 era season since his ROOKIE season!...regression maybe? Many thought so. Then he was dominant again this season. His career stats are mindblowing.

I get why Randy Johnson and Greg Maddux PSA 10 rookies don't hold too much value. But, Pedro Martinez Bowman PSA 10 rookies go for what? $150-200? Was 1992 still considered the junk era? (Pedro's 1991 UP PSA 10 is at $50.)

employee8 · 10-02-2020, 08:46 AM

He did enough last night for my raw update to sell online

Nostalgia · 10-02-2020, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by employee8

He did enough last night for my raw update to sell online

HAHA. What were you asking for? Was it on the market for a while? Or did you put it up after the game?

ewokpelts · 10-02-2020, 09:07 AM

He would have had a ring in 2017 and 2018, BBBBBBBUUUUUUUUTTTTT............

coachnip13 · 10-02-2020, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ewokpelts

He would have had a ring in 2017 and 2018, BBBBBBBUUUUUUUUTTTTT............

........but they didn't win four games in the World Series? Seems pretty obvious.

BBases31 · 10-02-2020, 09:11 AM

I've been saying for a while he's one of the most underrated in the hobby. The unquestioned best pitcher of his generation and best pitcher in the last 50 years, who's only 32, and on the best team in the baseball. He's already pretty expensive but he could easily retire as one of the 3 best pitchers of all time at this pace. His rookies and BC Autos are rare compared to modern day stuff so I think his stuff has higher potential to go up than people think. His 2008 Update rookie only has 2k total graded with 850 PSA 10. His Update Chrome Rookie only has 48 graded with 22 10s

Triple B · 10-02-2020, 09:14 AM

You know it’s 2020 when Kershaw is bringing the noise in the playoffs...

MJRaider · 10-02-2020, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple B

You know it’s 2020 when Kershaw is bringing the noise in the playoffs...

True.

Nostalgia · 10-02-2020, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

I've been saying for a while he's one of the most underrated in the hobby. The unquestioned best pitcher of his generation and best pitcher in the last 50 years, who's only 32, and on the best team in the baseball. He's already pretty expensive but he could easily retire as one of the 3 best pitchers of all time at this pace. His rookies and BC Autos are rare compared to modern day stuff so I think his stuff has higher potential to go up than people think. His 2008 Update rookie only has 2k total graded with 850 PSA 10. His Update Chrome Rookie only has 48 graded with 22 10s

The chrome UH is a beautiful card. Out of my price range now

I'm going to compare the pop report of Kershaw Topps UH rookie to some other generational pitchers.

Randy Johnson Upper Deck: 28132 graded; 4367 PSA 10
Randy Johnson Topps Traded: 12397 graded; 3101 PSA 10
Randy Johnson 1989 Donruss: 7589 graded; 1183 PSA 10

Greg Maddux 1987 Donruss: 28961 graded; 2457 PSA 10
Greg Maddux 1987 Topps Traded: 13127 graded; 3789 PSA 10
Greg Maddux Topps Traded Tiffany 3097 graded; 584 PSA 10
Greg Maddux 1987 Fleer Glossy: 6809 graded; 892 PSA 10

Pedro Martinez 1991 UD Final Edition: 22778 graded; 3759 PSA 10
Pedro Martinez 1992 Bowman: 9917 graded; 1551 PSA 10

Clayton Kershaw Topps UH: 2010 graded; 879 PSA 10
Clayton Kershaw Topps UH GOLD: 60 graded; 20 PSA 10
Clayton Kershaw Topps UH GOLD FOIL: 103 graded; 41 PSA 10
Clayton Kershaw Topps UH BLACK: 4 graded; 1 PSA 10
Clayton Kershaw Topps Chrome UH: 48 graded; 22 PSA 10

Danderlion · 10-02-2020, 09:32 AM

If he stays dominant through the entire postseason and the dodgers win, should see some nice upward movement in his hobby value.

Last night was a great game, but he will need several more of these to move the needle I think.

unclemonkey · 10-02-2020, 09:36 AM

To many missed opportunities at immortality.

Great HOF worthy pitcher.

Feels kinda like Manning getting that second ring on the backs of others. Just meh...

NeedChapmans · 10-02-2020, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by unclemonkey

To many missed opportunities at immortality.

Great HOF worthy pitcher.

Feels kinda like Manning getting that second ring on the backs of others.

Manning was dragged through that season and the post-season. Kershaw has been reborn it seems; his velocity is up and he's dominating again. I don't the two are quite comparable IMHO.

That said, it's Kershaw. We go through this every / single / year. Give him time.

2infinitybeyond · 10-02-2020, 09:54 AM

I love Kershaw. That being said, I don't know if he was dominant last night or if the Brewers are just that bad. There were a few hangers in there that the Brewers just missed.

Regardless, Kershaw is a legend to me and I don't believe all this "can't pitch in postseason" BS. He was truly dominant in Game 1 of the 2017 WS and that Game 5 "collapse" was the Astros cheating their way to a ring.

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Coug46n2 · 10-02-2020, 10:08 AM

Hankook tires really are good tires. At least I like mine.

MoreToppsPlease · 10-02-2020, 10:20 AM

Yes - a resurgent veteran HOF-caliber player always adds to his mystique and interest...especially with pitchers!

Reminds me of Verlander and even Ryan.

signal_fifty · 10-02-2020, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

I've been saying for a while he's one of the most underrated in the hobby. The unquestioned best pitcher of his generation and best pitcher in the last 50 years, who's only 32, and on the best team in the baseball. He's already pretty expensive but he could easily retire as one of the 3 best pitchers of all time at this pace. His rookies and BC Autos are rare compared to modern day stuff so I think his stuff has higher potential to go up than people think. His 2008 Update rookie only has 2k total graded with 850 PSA 10. His Update Chrome Rookie only has 48 graded with 22 10s

Best pitcher in the last 50 years?!? You are out of your mind.

oddstuff · 10-02-2020, 10:26 AM

Last night is a start...to really get the fire going, to add more fuel to the spark, he would need to throw a couple of no run games and cap it off with pitching the clincher to win the World Series with double digit Ks. He's HOF but to ignite his hobby value, that's what is needed...otherwise there will be slow incremental growth as he piles on the numbers before retirement.

At age 32, Kershaw should get to 3000 Ks barring major injuries, 250 wins if he stays with a winning team (contract with the Dodgers is up after the 2021 season). 1 MVP, 3 Cy Youngs/2 runner ups. In this era of 6 inning pitchers, he, Verlander, Scherzer and Greinke may be the last ones to get to 3000 Ks for a while.

10-02-2020, 07:45 AM	#1
Nostalgia Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: New York Posts: 1,756	Clayton Kershaw - Will a dominant postseason do much to his hobby value? He's arguably the best pitcher since 2000, and may go down as a top 5 pitcher ever. His regular season stats definitely support it. The only blemish on his resume is his postseason failures. You can get Kershaw cards relatively cheap, but pitcher card hobby value is never that high. I think his 2008 Topps UH is a very nice card.

10-02-2020, 07:53 AM	#2
tonedef2oo8 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 7,320	No it will not . __________________ *“ I am very good at calculating stuff. 160+60=210 “*

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speedyjg13 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 17,135	I don't think so __________________ Current PC: Mike Trout Prior PC: David Fletcher & Jered Weaver https://www.flickr.com/photos/speedyjg13/albums

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employee8 Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 3,069 tkosportscards	He did enough last night for my raw update to sell online __________________ IG: kdogwalker8

10-02-2020, 09:11 AM	#14
BBases31 Banned Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 7,603	I've been saying for a while he's one of the most underrated in the hobby. The unquestioned best pitcher of his generation and best pitcher in the last 50 years, who's only 32, and on the best team in the baseball. He's already pretty expensive but he could easily retire as one of the 3 best pitchers of all time at this pace. His rookies and BC Autos are rare compared to modern day stuff so I think his stuff has higher potential to go up than people think. His 2008 Update rookie only has 2k total graded with 850 PSA 10. His Update Chrome Rookie only has 48 graded with 22 10s Last edited by BBases31; 10-02-2020 at 09:17 AM.

10-02-2020, 07:54 AM	#3
actionbryan Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,744 mrbrownstone5150 actionbryan	It’ll certainly help. Sort of analogous to Drew Brees , great career and at least one championship is icing on the cake. Maybe not a perfect example though because of Brees passing records I own nothing of him but if he pulls a 2014 Madbum , I’ll probably pay the hyped pricing for his Rc

10-02-2020, 08:05 AM	#4
unclemonkey Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 4,989	I don't see it. He seems fairly valued ATM.

10-02-2020, 08:10 AM	#5
2010GBPackers Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 4,131	He's a long-term bet. HOFers in the twighlight of their career don't fare well in our current hobby market. But with a strong postseason, (and he had a great start to that last night) I can see people's eyes being opened and noticing how undervalued his cards are for being an all-time Top 10 pitcher (at least).

10-02-2020, 08:24 AM	#6
Thor34 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 1,465	Yes..

10-02-2020, 09:07 AM	#12
ewokpelts Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Evergreen Park, IL Posts: 3,853 asg2003ws2005	He would have had a ring in 2017 and 2018, BBBBBBBUUUUUUUUTTTTT............

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Triple B Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Toronto Posts: 6,134	You know it’s 2020 when Kershaw is bringing the noise in the playoffs... __________________ Wanted Dead or Alive! 1. 1997 Bowman's Best Jose Cruz, Jr Atomic Refractor Autograph 2. 1997 SPx Jose Cruz, Jr. Grand Finale /50

10-02-2020, 09:32 AM	#18
Danderlion Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,470 theautomator20 danderlion	If he stays dominant through the entire postseason and the dodgers win, should see some nice upward movement in his hobby value. Last night was a great game, but he will need several more of these to move the needle I think.

10-02-2020, 09:36 AM	#19
unclemonkey Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 4,989	To many missed opportunities at immortality. Great HOF worthy pitcher. Feels kinda like Manning getting that second ring on the backs of others. Just meh...

10-02-2020, 09:54 AM	#21
2infinitybeyond Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: California Posts: 82 trunks08	I love Kershaw. That being said, I don't know if he was dominant last night or if the Brewers are just that bad. There were a few hangers in there that the Brewers just missed. Regardless, Kershaw is a legend to me and I don't believe all this "can't pitch in postseason" BS. He was truly dominant in Game 1 of the 2017 WS and that Game 5 "collapse" was the Astros cheating their way to a ring. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

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Coug46n2 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Washington State Posts: 6,151 Coug46n2	Hankook tires really are good tires. At least I like mine.

10-02-2020, 10:20 AM	#23
MoreToppsPlease Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 8,676	Yes - a resurgent veteran HOF-caliber player always adds to his mystique and interest...especially with pitchers! Reminds me of Verlander and even Ryan. __________________ IRS Tax Tip 2022-57 A hobby is any activity that a person pursues because they enjoy it and with no intention of making a profit. People operate a business with the intention of making a profit.

10-02-2020, 10:26 AM	#25
oddstuff Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: CA Posts: 5,026	Last night is a start...to really get the fire going, to add more fuel to the spark, he would need to throw a couple of no run games and cap it off with pitching the clincher to win the World Series with double digit Ks. He's HOF but to ignite his hobby value, that's what is needed...otherwise there will be slow incremental growth as he piles on the numbers before retirement. At age 32, Kershaw should get to 3000 Ks barring major injuries, 250 wins if he stays with a winning team (contract with the Dodgers is up after the 2021 season). 1 MVP, 3 Cy Youngs/2 runner ups. In this era of 6 inning pitchers, he, Verlander, Scherzer and Greinke may be the last ones to get to 3000 Ks for a while.