Star Rubies Nowitzki

jzeiter · 07-04-2023, 08:17 AM

Recently we bought a nice basketball collection and found a Dirk Nowitzki rookie Skybox Star Rubies numbered to 25 in it. The card is ungraded and looks nice, one little nicked corner. I plan on taking it to the National and getting it graded. My question- which grading company for a big card like this is best and why?

The last sale is from 2019 in a Beckett slab for around 8K-130 point shows it sold on PWCC auction in June of 2019.

I think with Dirk going into the Hall this year and the rarity of the card, I need to use an auction house as well, so which one is best for a big card? Thanks for the opinions.

ronaldkosh · 07-04-2023, 09:36 AM

That's one hell of a find! What were the other top cards in the collection, if you don't mind sharing?

Archangel1775 · 07-04-2023, 11:23 AM

Jeez, that huge. Message Goldin Auctions, tell your story and if they are at the National, leave it with them. Congrats on the new car. maybe used, who knows! Haha

jzeiter · 07-04-2023, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ronaldkosh

That's one hell of a find! What were the other top cards in the collection, if you don't mind sharing?

We knew going into the purchase that there was lots of Lebron rookies, Kobe rookies and nice inserts, and a ton of Jordan big cards. Most of the collection was basketball sets. The guy was a set collector, but did have a few nice star cards. We didn't know about this one until we started digging through everything. My partner didn't think it was that big, since the only thing he looked at for pricing was an old Beckett from about 6 years ago. I then did a little research to show him how potentially big it is.

Should be a fun journey to grade it, and sell it.

mc1 · 07-04-2023, 03:15 PM

Terapeak shows a BGS 9 that sold for 35k in 2021. The market has maybe dropped a bit since then but it should still be a 10K+ card.

aggie4ever · 07-04-2023, 04:28 PM

I would normally say PSA, but with a bad corner, it will likely grade a little better with BGS, assuming the centering is good.

No idea on auction house. I would say Goldin is good for big cards, and while this card would be considered big by most of us, in terms of cards Goldin regularly sells, a $10-15k card is going to get lost in the shuffle of cards in their auctions and probably will not get advertised properly.

ronaldkosh · 07-05-2023, 10:09 AM

FWIW, this card will sell really high even if it grades a PSA 4 or 5.

Barring any major surface issues like a crease or paper loss, the downgrade from PSA 8 to 5 won't be as significant as it would be for other cards. It's too rare and the eye appeal is still there on lower graded copies.

johnscards · 07-05-2023, 04:47 PM

Amazing find, must have been super exciting when you found it. Looking forward to what it brings at auction!

panthers59 · 07-05-2023, 10:46 PM

Please post a picture if you can. Great find

jzeiter · 07-06-2023, 08:24 PM

Thanks for all the opinions and information. We have some decisions to make and if I figure out how to post a picture of the card, I'll do that.

hobbytime · 07-06-2023, 08:38 PM

This reminds me of that guy who bought a Dirk lot which included a Nowitzki Showcase 1/1 rookie.

Sonnys88 · 07-07-2023, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jzeiter

We knew going into the purchase that there was lots of Lebron rookies, Kobe rookies and nice inserts, and a ton of Jordan big cards. Most of the collection was basketball sets. The guy was a set collector, but did have a few nice star cards. We didn't know about this one until we started digging through everything. My partner didn't think it was that big, since the only thing he looked at for pricing was an old Beckett from about 6 years ago. I then did a little research to show him how potentially big it is.

Should be a fun journey to grade it, and sell it.

Nice find.

Hopefully for the seller's sake, the use of a 6 year old price guide wasn't used to value the rest of the collection for the purchase.

kaisersoze · 07-07-2023, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by hobbytime

This reminds me of that guy who bought a Dirk lot which included a Nowitzki Showcase 1/1 rookie.

i thought the same. apparently the disrespect for dirk was real back in the day.

jova888 · 07-10-2023, 10:25 PM

post pic or it didn't happen =0

jzeiter · 07-11-2023, 01:51 PM

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jzeiter · 07-11-2023, 01:52 PM

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post pic or it didn't happen =0

Check the picture.

Kingofkings1281 · 07-11-2023, 02:14 PM

Beautiful card. Easily my favorite year of Rubies. Still trying to track down a Vince.

dengbang · 07-11-2023, 02:49 PM

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Beautiful Dirk! Just make sure to double check the numbering on the back.

dizzy4111 · 07-11-2023, 07:23 PM

Damn

Looks pretty clean on the front. Enjoy your upcoming cash infusion!

jzeiter · 07-12-2023, 04:36 PM

We have decided to use Goldin Auctions for the sale of the card. We have an agreement in place with them for the card to be included in their Premier Auction after The National.

Thanks for all the interest and especially the help on the how to proceed with such a rare card.

We're going to enjoy watching the process of how a big dollar card goes through the auction process at Goldin. So far, they have been great to deal with and having their Netflix series showed me a few things about how they handle the process with regular guys like me.

I'll let everyone know when it goes up for auction, especially those who may want to purchase it.

boxbuster7 · 07-12-2023, 05:25 PM

Awesome find! Congrats.

mc1 · 07-12-2023, 06:00 PM

Will it be graded before going up for auction?

jzeiter · 07-12-2023, 09:18 PM

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Will it be graded before going up for auction?

It will- Goldin only sells graded cards. They have an agreement with PSA to grade all cards submitted to them in raw condition.
We're hoping for a good grade to enhance value, but no matter what we will be happy to sell using Goldin. They have been extremely nice and have explained the process well.

kobemagee29 · 07-13-2023, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jzeiter

It will- Goldin only sells graded cards. They have an agreement with PSA to grade all cards submitted to them in raw condition.
We're hoping for a good grade to enhance value, but no matter what we will be happy to sell using Goldin. They have been extremely nice and have explained the process well.

Make the drive to the National & sell it yourself. Why give money to goldin

dizzy4111 · 07-13-2023, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kobemagee29

Make the drive to the National & sell it yourself. Why give money to goldin

This

Str8 cash, homie

07-04-2023, 08:17 AM	#1
jzeiter Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Attica, Ohio Posts: 291 jzeiter	Star Rubies Nowitzki Recently we bought a nice basketball collection and found a Dirk Nowitzki rookie Skybox Star Rubies numbered to 25 in it. The card is ungraded and looks nice, one little nicked corner. I plan on taking it to the National and getting it graded. My question- which grading company for a big card like this is best and why? The last sale is from 2019 in a Beckett slab for around 8K-130 point shows it sold on PWCC auction in June of 2019. I think with Dirk going into the Hall this year and the rarity of the card, I need to use an auction house as well, so which one is best for a big card? Thanks for the opinions. Last edited by jzeiter; 07-04-2023 at 08:20 AM.

07-04-2023, 11:23 AM	#3
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,878	Jeez, that huge. Message Goldin Auctions, tell your story and if they are at the National, leave it with them. Congrats on the new car. maybe used, who knows! Haha __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*

07-04-2023, 03:15 PM	#5
mc1 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 11,208	Terapeak shows a BGS 9 that sold for 35k in 2021. The market has maybe dropped a bit since then but it should still be a 10K+ card. __________________ B.I.D.

07-05-2023, 04:47 PM	#8
johnscards Member Join Date: May 2023 Posts: 151 johnscards	Amazing find, must have been super exciting when you found it. Looking forward to what it brings at auction! Last edited by johnscards; 07-05-2023 at 04:49 PM.

07-11-2023, 02:14 PM	#17
Kingofkings1281 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 9,616 Kingofkings1281	Beautiful card. Easily my favorite year of Rubies. Still trying to track down a Vince. __________________ Always looking for high end Vince Carter, Randy Moss and Tom Brady. http://kingofkings1281.imgur.com

07-04-2023, 09:36 AM	#2
ronaldkosh Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: USA Posts: 488	That's one hell of a find! What were the other top cards in the collection, if you don't mind sharing?

07-04-2023, 04:28 PM	#6
aggie4ever Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 6,803 aggie4ever	I would normally say PSA, but with a bad corner, it will likely grade a little better with BGS, assuming the centering is good. No idea on auction house. I would say Goldin is good for big cards, and while this card would be considered big by most of us, in terms of cards Goldin regularly sells, a $10-15k card is going to get lost in the shuffle of cards in their auctions and probably will not get advertised properly.

07-05-2023, 10:09 AM	#7
ronaldkosh Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: USA Posts: 488	FWIW, this card will sell really high even if it grades a PSA 4 or 5. Barring any major surface issues like a crease or paper loss, the downgrade from PSA 8 to 5 won't be as significant as it would be for other cards. It's too rare and the eye appeal is still there on lower graded copies.

07-05-2023, 10:46 PM	#9
panthers59 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: charlotte nc Posts: 888 rmcards68	Please post a picture if you can. Great find

07-06-2023, 08:24 PM	#10
jzeiter Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Attica, Ohio Posts: 291 jzeiter	Thanks for all the opinions and information. We have some decisions to make and if I figure out how to post a picture of the card, I'll do that.

07-06-2023, 08:38 PM	#11
hobbytime Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 109	This reminds me of that guy who bought a Dirk lot which included a Nowitzki Showcase 1/1 rookie.

07-10-2023, 10:25 PM	#14
jova888 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: California Posts: 834	post pic or it didn't happen =0

07-11-2023, 01:51 PM	#15
jzeiter Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Attica, Ohio Posts: 291 jzeiter

07-11-2023, 07:23 PM	#19
dizzy4111 Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 661	Damn Looks pretty clean on the front. Enjoy your upcoming cash infusion! __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/197828227@N07/ Sets In Progress: 1998-98 Topps Chrome Base Refractors: 132/228

07-12-2023, 04:36 PM	#20
jzeiter Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Attica, Ohio Posts: 291 jzeiter	We have decided to use Goldin Auctions for the sale of the card. We have an agreement in place with them for the card to be included in their Premier Auction after The National. Thanks for all the interest and especially the help on the how to proceed with such a rare card. We're going to enjoy watching the process of how a big dollar card goes through the auction process at Goldin. So far, they have been great to deal with and having their Netflix series showed me a few things about how they handle the process with regular guys like me. I'll let everyone know when it goes up for auction, especially those who may want to purchase it.

07-12-2023, 05:25 PM	#21
boxbuster7 Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 12,811 boxbuster777	Awesome find! Congrats. __________________ Psa 9 > psa 10

07-12-2023, 06:00 PM	#22
mc1 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 11,208	Will it be graded before going up for auction? __________________ B.I.D.