Sabathia for the Hall?

Centauri3 · 09-01-2017, 10:42 AM

CC has had something of a resurgence this year, going from a power pitcher to a crafty lefty.

234 wins, 61 bWAR, 6 time AS, 1 CY, 5 times top 5 Cy voting. I think he'll get to 250 in wins, around 65 WAR.

To me, he is in.

Scottish Punk · 09-01-2017, 10:45 AM

Playing for the Yankees helps his cause. I think 220-250 wins will become the new 300. He's got a CY as well. I remember him carry Milwaukee to the playoffs. I think he makes it, won't be first ballot, but given the numbers for his generation, he will get in.

HOFAutoRookies · 09-01-2017, 11:18 AM

I think there was a good thread on this a year or so ago I'll try to dig up. But, I think he has a very good shot at making it.

mgugs46 · 09-01-2017, 11:19 AM

No, too fat, and too much of a whiney baby complaining that someone dared to bunt when he was pitching.

jrosales · 09-01-2017, 11:30 AM

I think if he gets closer to 3,000 Ks, then he has a very good shot.

As of right now, he's borderline but wouldn't be a mistake if he got voted in.

cnewby · 09-01-2017, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mgugs46

No, too fat, and too much of a whiney baby complaining that someone dared to bunt when he was pitching.

Hahaha. Hot take right here.

HOF bound CC!!

SethMurphy · 09-01-2017, 11:36 AM

I'm a Yankee fan.

IMO CC Sabathia is not even close to a Hall of Famer. Not even close. Hall of Famers should be next level, and next level he is not.

Unless we are measuring damage done to a buffet

moosetequila · 09-01-2017, 11:36 AM

Home town product, would be cool if he did make the Hall!

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no10pin · 09-01-2017, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cnewby

Hahaha. Hot take right here.

HOF bound CC!!

Being fat doesn't really have anything to do with anything, but he's not really wrong on CC whining about the Red Sox bunting in the first inning.

unclemonkey · 09-01-2017, 11:52 AM

Mussina before CC

Morris before Mussina

Schilling Before Morris

All border line and equally deserving

MaeseChrome · 09-01-2017, 11:53 AM

Would we see CC's Topps Traded Auto RC take another boost like it did when he won the Cy Young?

BostonNut · 09-01-2017, 11:55 AM

Oh yes...no doubt in my mind.

texmcpherson · 09-01-2017, 12:01 PM

I'm going to say no, but borderline.

cnewby · 09-01-2017, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by no10pin

Being fat doesn't really have anything to do with anything, but he's not really wrong on CC whining about the Red Sox bunting in the first inning.

Meh, looks more like a self-describing post to me.

BostonNut · 09-01-2017, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cnewby

Meh, looks more like a self-describing post to me.

Wow, that's a little uncalled for...

JimShorts01 · 09-01-2017, 12:19 PM

Hall of Very Good

MaeseChrome · 09-01-2017, 12:19 PM

I mean, his episode of MTV Cribs was pretty good (with him in the Caddy golf cart)...does that help his HOF case?

st0lenbase · 09-01-2017, 12:22 PM

http://www.blowoutforums.com/showthr...=Sabathia+hall

cnewby · 09-01-2017, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by st0lenbase

http://www.blowoutforums.com/showthr...=Sabathia+hall

Good find.

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

Wow, that's a little uncalled for...

Calling someone who is whining 'whiney' is hardly uncalled for.

88horsepower · 09-01-2017, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by unclemonkey

Mussina before CC

Morris before Mussina

Schilling Before Morris

All border line and equally deserving

Absolutely regarding Mussina. How he isn't in yet is disturbing. Just a tad under 300 wins & 3,000 K's for his career. 83 WAR. At least he's up in the voting over the past four years of eligibility. I imagine it's only a matter of time. Personally, I think David Cone should also get in, speaking of Yankee pitchers.

Coug46n2 · 09-01-2017, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MaeseChrome

Would we see CC's Topps Traded Auto RC take another boost like it did when he won the Cy Young?

This is a pretty strong lot for the price. You get all 4 of the big names in one auction. (not mine).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Topps-T...QAAOSwtGlZNp9K

cnewby · 09-01-2017, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Coug46n2

This is a pretty strong lot for the price. You get all 4 of the big names in one auction. (not mine).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Topps-T...QAAOSwtGlZNp9K

Nice centering on the Soriano.

rats60 · 09-01-2017, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 88horsepower

Absolutely regarding Mussina. How he isn't in yet is disturbing. Just a tad under 300 wins & 3,000 K's for his career. 83 WAR. At least he's up in the voting over the past four years of eligibility. I imagine it's only a matter of time. Personally, I think David Cone should also get in, speaking of Yankee pitchers.

3.68 ERA. Herb Pennock with a 3.60 ERA is the highest in the HOF elected by the BBWAA. Mussina may be waiting a long time. Sabathia 3.70 and Morris 3.90 are even worse. If Morris gets in by the Veterans Committee, Sabathia may get in eventually. As long as Morris is waiting, I don't see CC getting in.

no10pin · 09-01-2017, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60

3.68 ERA. Herb Pennock with a 3.60 ERA is the highest in the HOF elected by the BBWAA. Mussina may be waiting a long time. Sabathia 3.70 and Morris 3.90 are even worse. If Morris gets in by the Veterans Committee, Sabathia may get in eventually. As long as Morris is waiting, I don't see CC getting in.

Yeah, but Mussina's prime was during the bulk of the steroid era. Pedro Martinez aside, his numbers from that time frame were really good.

Career ERA+
Pennock 106
Morris 105
Sabathia 117
Mussina 123

88horsepower · 09-01-2017, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by no10pin

Yeah, but Mussina's prime was during the bulk of the steroid era. Pedro Martinez aside, his numbers from that time frame were really good.

Career ERA+
Pennock 106
Morris 105
Sabathia 117
Mussina 123

Exactly what I was thinking. The amount of writers that were playing during his era has to have impacted his ERA.

09-01-2017, 10:42 AM	#1
Centauri3 Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 280 b-mor	Sabathia for the Hall? CC has had something of a resurgence this year, going from a power pitcher to a crafty lefty. 234 wins, 61 bWAR, 6 time AS, 1 CY, 5 times top 5 Cy voting. I think he'll get to 250 in wins, around 65 WAR. To me, he is in.

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unclemonkey Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 4,989	Mussina before CC Morris before Mussina Schilling Before Morris All border line and equally deserving Last edited by unclemonkey; 09-01-2017 at 11:59 AM.

09-01-2017, 10:45 AM	#2
Scottish Punk Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 9,899 scottishpunk	Playing for the Yankees helps his cause. I think 220-250 wins will become the new 300. He's got a CY as well. I remember him carry Milwaukee to the playoffs. I think he makes it, won't be first ballot, but given the numbers for his generation, he will get in.

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HOFAutoRookies Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Medina, MN Posts: 4,922	I think there was a good thread on this a year or so ago I'll try to dig up. But, I think he has a very good shot at making it.

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moosetequila Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Cali Posts: 9,547	Home town product, would be cool if he did make the Hall! Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk

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MaeseChrome Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 345 ShoestonTexas	Would we see CC's Topps Traded Auto RC take another boost like it did when he won the Cy Young? __________________ LOOKING TO BUY: Shohei Ohtani PSA 10 Rookies (2013 Japan, 2018 US) Total PSA 10 Ohtani RC Count: 76 Unique PSA 10 Ohtani RC Count: 56

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BostonNut Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 61,749	Oh yes...no doubt in my mind.

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texmcpherson Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 15,950 texmcpherson	I'm going to say no, but borderline. __________________ *You can’t triple stamp a double stamp.*

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JimShorts01 Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,059 musn2014	Hall of Very Good

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