Star Wars Chrome Perspectives

[dd316]

Looks cool! Hooray for on-card autos! The gold medallions look cool, too.

2014 Topps Star Wars Chrome Perspectives Checklist, Set Info, Boxes

[nephinfan]

Ooooo! I'm in for this!

[Tim]

looks good depending on auto checklist but this part is a little disturbing:

2014 Topps Star Wars Chrome Perspectives hobby boxes come with two hits or premium inserts. A Helmet Medallion card is guaranteed. These have a piece of metal on the card that's done to look like an iconic helmet from the franchise. Helmet Medallion cards come in both silver and gold versions. Gold parallels are limited to 100 copies each.

I bolded "limited" - lol - if the golds are "short printed" to a whopping 100 copies each, how many silvers will there be? They will be $5-$10 cards within two weeks of release.

[dd316]

Originally Posted by Tim

I bolded "limited" - lol - if the golds are "short printed" to a whopping 100 copies each, how many silvers will there be? They will be $5-$10 cards within two weeks of release.

101?

[Tim]

Originally Posted by dd316

101?

ted - you may have missed at least one zero in the middle there.

[Deathgate]

Originally Posted by Tim

looks good depending on auto checklist but this part is a little disturbing:

2014 Topps Star Wars Chrome Perspectives hobby boxes come with two hits or premium inserts. A Helmet Medallion card is guaranteed. These have a piece of metal on the card that's done to look like an iconic helmet from the franchise. Helmet Medallion cards come in both silver and gold versions. Gold parallels are limited to 100 copies each.

I bolded "limited" - lol - if the golds are "short printed" to a whopping 100 copies each, how many silvers will there be? They will be $5-$10 cards within two weeks of release.

The Gold helmets will be actual "hits", the silvers more of an insert. Unless they have different print runs of the silver helmets, the majority will end up as filler, with maybe a bit of a premium for Fett and Vader.

My real concern are those sketch cards. The smaller sketch area isn't great, but are those chrome borders going to be added after the art, or will the artists get the sketch cards with the border already on? As much handling as a sketch card gets in process, most of these are going to get beat up and scratched up. Now, I'm not a graded card collector, and I know that a sketch card isn't going to come out of a pack with 4 sharp corners, but I can just imagine what those will look like...

[aggie4ever]

On card autographs are great, and parallel refractors hopefully will be great. The helmet cards look cool, but like Tim said, I worry about how many silvers will be made. Guess the hope is that you get 2 gold and 10 silver per case, then the silver print run would be 500 each.

Not a fan of the smaller drawing area on the sketch cards. Maybe putting a chrome frame on them seemed like a cool idea, but the frame should have been half as wide. Looks like you loose at least 1/3 of the drawing area... it will be interesting to see how the artists handle it. Also, I guess that means no sketch puzzles.

Also, if you click on the checklist link, it indicates that there are 5,000 autographs and 10,000 sketches. Adding in the print plates, that's around 1250 cases. Looking forward to seeing the autograph list, hopefully it's a good one!

[dd316]

I'm sure the Silver Medallions will have massive print runs. But if the set is large, like 50 cards, they could still hold nice value for set builders.

Originally Posted by aggie4ever

Not a fan of the smaller drawing area on the sketch cards. Maybe putting a chrome frame on them seemed like a cool idea, but the frame should have been half as wide. Looks like you loose at least 1/3 of the drawing area... it will be interesting to see how the artists handle it. Also, I guess that means no sketch puzzles.

Who knows, the final design could be different? The set doesn't hit til May, these are probably all very early mockups.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by dd316

I'm sure the Silver Medallions will have massive print runs. But if the set is large, like 50 cards, they could still hold nice value for set builders.

Completely agree - if it's a large set that's the key. but if it's 30 or less, and there are no SPs (which i can't see there being based on the gold parallel info), then it's not going to add any value. so then it comes down to $90 a box for either a sketch or auto. ok - $80 a box after the hit is removed. you'd have to buy a lot of this to reap the benefits of the refractor sets and parallels but the way the SW collecting community has not been buying the parallel sets in the last several releases, it has me concerned a bit on value here. really need to see the auto checklist.

[justice41]

You doing sketch cards for this Ted?

[chris meeks]

Originally Posted by Deathgate

The Gold helmets will be actual "hits", the silvers more of an insert. Unless they have different print runs of the silver helmets, the majority will end up as filler, with maybe a bit of a premium for Fett and Vader.

My real concern are those sketch cards. The smaller sketch area isn't great, but are those chrome borders going to be added after the art, or will the artists get the sketch cards with the border already on? As much handling as a sketch card gets in process, most of these are going to get beat up and scratched up. Now, I'm not a graded card collector, and I know that a sketch card isn't going to come out of a pack with 4 sharp corners, but I can just imagine what those will look like...

From my understanding, the sketch cards will be finished first and sent back for the chroming process.

[kerg]

Originally Posted by Deathgate

The Gold helmets will be actual "hits", the silvers more of an insert.

I read it as the silver or gold was a hit since the articles mentions that the 'other' hit will be a plate, auto or sketch.

[richo]

I will be interested to know rrp price point from the off. You only have to look at prices now for Jedi Legacy, Star Wars Illustrated and to a lesser extent GF2, to see that the smart move has been buying these after the release rather than pre-ordering at $1000 per case.

[Deathgate]

Originally Posted by kerg

I read it as the silver or gold was a hit since the articles mentions that the 'other' hit will be a plate, auto or sketch.

Yep, they can call those silver helmets a hit, but in my mind, they don't quite qualify.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by Deathgate

Yep, they can call those silver helmets a hit, but in my mind, they don't quite qualify.

which was my point: $90 for one hit plus the inserts/parallels.

[Deathgate]

Originally Posted by Tim

which was my point: $90 for one hit plus the inserts/parallels.

Sounds like Chrome Football. However, those on-card autos are a big plus in my book, depending, of course on the signers. Can't wait to see that checklist.

[Bryanjs14]

Really wish they would go after a new big signer. Fisher/Hamill/Daniels is getting a worn a little thin. Great signers, but when they are the big names in every release it starts to lose it's ulster when you pull one

Liam Neeson signed for them already in Batman Begins set
Get Hayden Christensen to sign again, that would be a big score
John Williams on card would be great

Of course there is always Portman, McGreggor, Christopher Lee ect ect

Keira Knightly another name I would love to see them eventually get.

Lloyd/Christensen/Prowse/Earl Jones quad auto would be insane. Maybe make it a redemption have it be an oversized chrome card

[Cujobyte]

I think Alvin should hire some of you guys for the great suggestions for this set. Great suggestions also Bryan, much much agreed.

Considering I'm being offered Galactic File 2 boxes at $50-60, I guess I'll just stay away and wait and see what happens.

[Igman7]

Yup.

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me 8 times, it's another Star Wars release.

While some of the refractors should do well (of they get off their lazy rumps and actually number them unlike GPK Chrome), the sketch mock up is butt ugly.

[arek]

Pass. Here is what frustrates me about buying boxes of star wars cards "1 Autograph, Printing Plate or Sketch Card". I'm not interested in plates, sketches or helmet cards. If the release guaranteed one auto and a plate or sketch, then i'd be more likely to buy.

[Triple B]

Originally Posted by arek

Pass. Here is what frustrates me about buying boxes of star wars cards "1 Autograph, Printing Plate or Sketch Card". I'm not interested in plates, sketches or helmet cards. If the release guaranteed one auto and a plate or sketch, then i'd be more likely to buy.

Same here. I didn't touch the Star Wars Illustrated junk they came out with and I'm not buying into the parallel autos hype either. I'll let everyone else bust this stuff and I'll pick up after the carnage.

Jedi Legacy is still by far the best Topps Star Wars release to date. I'm surprised people aren't breaking more of that. Jabba's Sail and character relic cards are selling VERY well...

[dd316]

Originally Posted by arek

Pass. Here is what frustrates me about buying boxes of star wars cards "1 Autograph, Printing Plate or Sketch Card". I'm not interested in plates, sketches or helmet cards. If the release guaranteed one auto and a plate or sketch, then i'd be more likely to buy.

You can always trade what you do pull for autos.

[stewbacca]

Originally Posted by Triple B

Same Jabba's Sail and character relic cards are selling VERY well...

If by selling well you mean for 1/2 of what they were when they first came out sure- which I guess is in line with the price of the boxes..

The only one that has gone up is the Luke. ..

Slave Leia and Fett usually run around 100-- but thats because of the characters not the rarity..

THe rest are either 35-40 ish-- which seems a bit low to me for a one in 2 case card hit..

And CHewies are now topping at around 100.00 (about 75.00 lower than they were 2 months ago)

Ewoks are beyond miserable as well..

[Triple B]

Originally Posted by stewbacca

If by selling well you mean for 1/2 of what they were when they first came out sure- which I guess is in line with the price of the boxes..

The only one that has gone up is the Luke. ..

Slave Leia and Fett usually run around 100-- but thats because of the characters not the rarity..

THe rest are either 35-40 ish-- which seems a bit low to me for a one in 2 case card hit..

And CHewies are now topping at around 100.00 (about 75.00 lower than they were 2 months ago)

Ewoks are beyond miserable as well..

Dude, that's with anything. Everyone was clamouring to get their hands on the relics right off the bat but they've come down as the . I got into the game late and that's lucky for me as I have paid some decent prices for the lesser characters. I got my Luke in the $200 range but good luck finding it for that price again.

Once the stuff dries up and interest starts up in the movies again (and if Topps loses the license to UD, which I hope they don't), these will spike again.

[dd316]

Originally Posted by Triple B

Once the stuff dries up and interest starts up in the movies again (and if Topps loses the license to UD, which I hope they don't), these will spike again.

Topps will never lose the license to UD. The only way Topps will lose the license is if Disney decides to produce everything internally. The Topps license is the longest-running license for Star Wars, I'm sure that partnership won't be going anywhere.

Also, if Topps doesn't put out any more relics, these will also spike. New relics of different materials could also regenerate interest in these.