LeBron James Rookie Card At Center of $6 Million Lawsuit

NBAicons · 01-12-2023, 01:28 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...144500598.html

regularp · 01-12-2023, 04:49 PM

Card Porn for the win!

MIRRABB · 01-12-2023, 04:58 PM

there's something hilarious about the idea of "defaming" a small piece of cardboard with cutout pieces of fabric

"Plus, the plaintiffs claim they suffered a loss of reputation, shame, mortification, and injury to their respective feelings, and loss of the value of the LeBron Patch Card. They are seeking damages of at least $6 million."

just lol.

nbahobbyaddict · 01-12-2023, 06:05 PM

This is one of those scenarios where you root for all parties to lose.

ninjacookies · 01-12-2023, 07:17 PM

Quote:

“Card Porn has been able to create a virtual racketeering ring in the collectibles industry, where sellers and professionals are terrified of earning the ire of Card Porn, which thereby allows Card Porn to control the sports card markets by choosing which cards to target as “false” and which cards to ignore.”

Sex, thugs, and slabs. The haram trifecta.

Imagine being a fly on the wall during opening statements.

auburn35 · 01-12-2023, 11:58 PM

Oh boy, this could be a fun one.

Will we also see eBay brought into the case (subpoena the 2005 auction details) for the buyer/seller records and confirmation of the "before" photo?

Additional recap from Paul Lesko on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/Paul_Lesko/statu...Bxql4S_gQ&s=19

duron · 01-13-2023, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Imagine being a fly on the wall during opening statements.

Me day of:

GeechQuest · 01-13-2023, 11:20 AM

Do these clowns not realize there’s photos of the 44/99 before the patch was swapped?

I’d love to see a counter claim on this.

GOATcards · 01-13-2023, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MIRRABB

there's something hilarious about the idea of "defaming" a small piece of cardboard with cutout pieces of fabric

"Plus, the plaintiffs claim they suffered a loss of reputation, shame, mortification, and injury to their respective feelings, and loss of the value of the LeBron Patch Card. They are seeking damages of at least $6 million."

just lol.

lulz @ common law

notfast · 01-13-2023, 09:49 PM

I think its funny how scared KennyG is of cardporn

Beavers98 · 01-13-2023, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Do these clowns not realize there’s photos of the 44/99 before the patch was swapped?

I’d love to see a counter claim on this.

This is the first thing that came to my mind. Like duh, there's proof.

auburn35 · 02-08-2023, 12:57 PM

Paul Lesko has provided some updates on this case and it appears the plaintiff's are still unable to identify CP, although there appears to have been some communication between the two parties. Plaintiff's allegedly knows CP's attorney, so this seems like a odd extra step but the plaintiffs received the judges permission to subpoena Instagram for information on the CP account.

Like I previously posted, hope we see eBay also called into this case. With the debate mostly focused on that 2005 white jersey image, hearing from the seller/buyer of that eBay listing might clear up the discussion about the image/patch being altered.

https://twitter.com/Paul_Lesko/statu...iyCy9hAcBDczJg
https://twitter.com/Paul_Lesko/statu...iyCy9hAcBDczJg

eastbayak · 02-08-2023, 01:09 PM

delete

auburn35 · 03-02-2023, 12:56 PM

This Lebron has produced another lawsuit, also focusing on Goldin's decision to pull the auction.

Great recap from Paul Lesko on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/Paul_Lesko/statu...792446464?s=20

MIRRABB · 03-02-2023, 01:21 PM

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"..the altered picture of this card to include a white patch is still used by some to attack the authenticity of the Lebron RPA card..."

What a hobby this is

Yankees2020 · 03-02-2023, 09:19 PM

Ahhh the drama

lol smh

auburn35 · 03-03-2024, 12:30 PM

Thought this was an interesting note from the newest document filing.

In one of the prior updates from March of last year, there was a copy of an email from Ken Goldin that mentioned Upper Deck and Chris Carlin (UD) said their letter of support was incorrect and shouldn't be relied upon.

As usual, Paul Lesko does a great recap, if you wanted to read everything (discovery dispute) but relating to Upper Deck's opinion, this note from UD's attorney suggests either Ken was incorrect or UD has flipped yet again. Maybe the cardporn connection is swaying opinions?

Would be nice if someone could track down one of the original owners and maybe settle the swap/shop(photo) debate.
https://x.com/Paul_Lesko/status/1763...425794800?s=20

Sandberg23 · 03-15-2024, 08:47 AM

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...piegel-lawsuit

hermanotarjeta · 03-15-2024, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandberg23

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...piegel-lawsuit

It’s crazy the the owners actually pulled one from a box recently.

LondonGames · 03-15-2024, 09:10 AM

Chris Carlin is known for not having his facts straight. In 2008 Tiger Woods Exquisite RPAs /10 weren't packed out. The /3 and 1/1 versions were only. The story was that the /10s got damaged so they never made it into the product, but one was sold at a show.

Here is Chris in 2009 not knowing about it, lying about it, or being confused in a spot where no confusion should take place.

I wouldn't put much stock into his knowledge of whether a random LBJ Exqusite Patch is fake or not, if he didn't know the Tiger /10s weren't in 08 Exquisite Football.

hermanotarjeta · 03-15-2024, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LondonGames

Chris Carlin is known for not having his facts straight. In 2008 Tiger Woods Exquisite RPAs /10 weren't packed out. The /3 and 1/1 versions were only. The story was that the /10s got damaged so they never made it into the product, but one was sold at a show.

Here is Chris in 2009 not knowing about it, lying about it, or being confused in a spot where no confusion should take place.

I wouldn't put much stock into his knowledge of whether a random LBJ Exqusite Patch is fake or not, if he didn't know the Tiger /10s weren't in 08 Exquisite Football.

I agree with this. He is not always right with the facts for his own company.

Only one exquisite Tiger/10 was released into the product and pulled - it was the one with the inscription on it.

I know this for a fact because I’ve owned them all.

johnscards · 03-15-2024, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

It’s crazy the the owners actually pulled one from a box recently.

Amazing story!

NBAicons · 03-16-2024, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandberg23

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...piegel-lawsuit

"slightly rarer gold version"? I guess the author is not so good at math.

rifleman69 · 03-16-2024, 11:17 AM

So to sum it up, the court case is all about if the white patch /44 is a true photo or if it's altered?

KhalDrogo · 03-16-2024, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rifleman69

So to sum it up, the court case is all about if the white patch /44 is a true photo or if it's altered?

It’s really about if Goldin had firm enough proof to pull the card from auction and destroy its value as a result.

01-12-2023, 01:28 PM	#1
NBAicons Member Join Date: Nov 2022 Posts: 245	LeBron James Rookie Card At Center of $6 Million Lawsuit https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...144500598.html

01-12-2023, 04:58 PM	#3
MIRRABB Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 2,034	there's something hilarious about the idea of "defaming" a small piece of cardboard with cutout pieces of fabric "Plus, the plaintiffs claim they suffered a loss of reputation, shame, mortification, and injury to their respective feelings, and loss of the value of the LeBron Patch Card. They are seeking damages of at least $6 million." just lol. __________________ Always looking for rare Herman Moore and Michael Redd cards... Last edited by MIRRABB; 01-12-2023 at 05:00 PM.

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auburn35 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,293	Oh boy, this could be a fun one. Will we also see eBay brought into the case (subpoena the 2005 auction details) for the buyer/seller records and confirmation of the "before" photo? Additional recap from Paul Lesko on Twitter. https://twitter.com/Paul_Lesko/statu...Bxql4S_gQ&s=19 __________________ Ashley Lelie Rookie Collector, always looking for more.

02-08-2023, 12:57 PM	#12
auburn35 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,293	Paul Lesko has provided some updates on this case and it appears the plaintiff's are still unable to identify CP, although there appears to have been some communication between the two parties. Plaintiff's allegedly knows CP's attorney, so this seems like a odd extra step but the plaintiffs received the judges permission to subpoena Instagram for information on the CP account. Like I previously posted, hope we see eBay also called into this case. With the debate mostly focused on that 2005 white jersey image, hearing from the seller/buyer of that eBay listing might clear up the discussion about the image/patch being altered. https://twitter.com/Paul_Lesko/statu...iyCy9hAcBDczJg https://twitter.com/Paul_Lesko/statu...iyCy9hAcBDczJg __________________ Ashley Lelie Rookie Collector, always looking for more.

03-02-2023, 12:56 PM	#14
auburn35 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,293	This Lebron has produced another lawsuit, also focusing on Goldin's decision to pull the auction. Great recap from Paul Lesko on Twitter. https://twitter.com/Paul_Lesko/statu...792446464?s=20 __________________ Ashley Lelie Rookie Collector, always looking for more.

01-12-2023, 04:49 PM	#2
regularp Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,119	Card Porn for the win!

01-12-2023, 06:05 PM	#4
nbahobbyaddict Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 477	This is one of those scenarios where you root for all parties to lose.

01-13-2023, 11:20 AM	#8
GeechQuest Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 10,779 GeechQuest	Do these clowns not realize there’s photos of the 44/99 before the patch was swapped? I’d love to see a counter claim on this.

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notfast Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: MD Posts: 4,032	I think its funny how scared KennyG is of cardporn

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Yankees2020 Banned - PBM Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: BlowoutCards Posts: 571	Ahhh the drama lol smh

03-03-2024, 12:30 PM	#17
auburn35 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,293	Thought this was an interesting note from the newest document filing. In one of the prior updates from March of last year, there was a copy of an email from Ken Goldin that mentioned Upper Deck and Chris Carlin (UD) said their letter of support was incorrect and shouldn't be relied upon. As usual, Paul Lesko does a great recap, if you wanted to read everything (discovery dispute) but relating to Upper Deck's opinion, this note from UD's attorney suggests either Ken was incorrect or UD has flipped yet again. Maybe the cardporn connection is swaying opinions? Would be nice if someone could track down one of the original owners and maybe settle the swap/shop(photo) debate. https://x.com/Paul_Lesko/status/1763...425794800?s=20 __________________ Ashley Lelie Rookie Collector, always looking for more.

03-15-2024, 08:47 AM	#18
Sandberg23 Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: Chicago Posts: 21 dgordo76	https://www.latimes.com/california/s...piegel-lawsuit

03-15-2024, 09:10 AM	#20
LondonGames Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 957	Chris Carlin is known for not having his facts straight. In 2008 Tiger Woods Exquisite RPAs /10 weren't packed out. The /3 and 1/1 versions were only. The story was that the /10s got damaged so they never made it into the product, but one was sold at a show. Here is Chris in 2009 not knowing about it, lying about it, or being confused in a spot where no confusion should take place. I wouldn't put much stock into his knowledge of whether a random LBJ Exqusite Patch is fake or not, if he didn't know the Tiger /10s weren't in 08 Exquisite Football. __________________ -Please be ready to pay when you claim- Thank you-

03-16-2024, 11:17 AM	#24
rifleman69 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Space Mountain Posts: 3,534	So to sum it up, the court case is all about if the white patch /44 is a true photo or if it's altered?