Lamar Jackson turned down contract larger than Russell Wilson's in key areas

HeyRelaxGuy · 09-11-2022, 03:30 PM

https://www.nfl.com/news/ravens-qb-l...ilson-s-in-key

Isn't this kind of ridiculous? Is he putting up Mahomes numbers? Did the Ravens go to the SB? Wtf, man ...

PokeyAndG · 09-11-2022, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HeyRelaxGuy

https://www.nfl.com/news/ravens-qb-l...ilson-s-in-key

Isn't this kind of ridiculous? Is he putting up Mahomes numbers? Did the Ravens go to the SB? Wtf, man ...

pride/ego...i think kyler's contract was fully guaranteed? Lamar wants nothing less.

EPH289 · 09-11-2022, 04:20 PM

He isn't worth that offer and is clearly a greedy idiot for not taking it.

regularp · 09-11-2022, 04:58 PM

$100 million less guaranteed money than Deshaun Watson.

Boo · 09-11-2022, 05:00 PM

He wants a fully guaranteed contract like Watson. I’m glad the teams are saying no way, that was a dumb contract.

SupermanBrandon · 09-11-2022, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Boo

He wants a fully guaranteed contract like Watson. I’m glad the teams are saying no way, that was a dumb contract.

Yeh. You can't always compare contracts especially in this case. One team knows what they are doing and the other is the Browns.

Moneychrome20 · 09-11-2022, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by EPH289

He isn't worth that offer and is clearly a greedy idiot for not taking it.

Explain yourself

cfern023 · 09-11-2022, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PokeyAndG

pride/ego...i think kyler's contract was fully guaranteed? Lamar wants nothing less.

Got a feeling he's looking at Watson's fully guaranteed 230mm deal rather than Maholmes.

Watson's deal was so off the walls its going to mess up negotiations for decades. Thats the deal to beat, and everyone else will NEVER beat it.

WTF was Cleveland thinking.

Ruffy · 09-11-2022, 05:08 PM

Maybe he'll pull a "Leveon Bell" and sit out next year. Then sign for a fraction of what he could have gotten. Hey, it's an option.

regularp · 09-11-2022, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruffy

Maybe he'll pull a "Leveon Bell" and sit out next year. Then sign for a fraction of what he could have gotten. Hey, it's an option.

QB franchise tag is gonna be around $50 million. He's not sitting out.

NoleinJax · 09-11-2022, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by regularp

$100 million less guaranteed money than Deshaun Watson.

So because the Browns are morons, every team in the NFL has to follow suit?

halldogg · 09-12-2022, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Moneychrome20

Explain yourself

You don't understand what he said?

Basically, Lamar is not worth the money he thinks he is worth, so he should have taken the guaranteed offer that they put in front of him. But because every teacher in his life passed him in class due to his athletic ability, he fails to understand this and thinks someone else's fortune should be his too. Lamar isn't worth $230 Million Guaranteed and the Ravens are doing right by every other team in the NFL by saying so.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 09-12-2022, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by halldogg

You don't understand what he said?

Basically, Lamar is not worth the money he thinks he is worth, so he should have taken the guaranteed offer that they put in front of him. But because every teacher in his life passed him in class due to his athletic ability, he fails to understand this and thinks someone else's fortune should be his too. Lamar isn't worth $230 Million Guaranteed and the Ravens are doing right by every other team in the NFL by saying so.

Lamar will get almost everything, if not everything, he wants in free agency. He’ll get Watson’s deal at the very least.

JeremyNick · 09-12-2022, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

Lamar will get almost everything, if not everything, he wants in free agency. He’ll get Watson’s deal at the very least.

Yup.

Not because he’s worth it, but because there are less than 32 franchise QBs in the entire league.

When one hits the market, like Deshaun, teams do stupid things.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 09-12-2022, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyNick

Yup.

Not because he’s worth it, but because there are less than 32 franchise QBs in the entire league.

When one hits the market, like Deshaun, teams do stupid things.

Exactly.

JWBlue · 09-13-2022, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by halldogg

You don't understand what he said?

Basically, Lamar is not worth the money he thinks he is worth, so he should have taken the guaranteed offer that they put in front of him. But because every teacher in his life passed him in class due to his athletic ability, he fails to understand this and thinks someone else's fortune should be his too. Lamar isn't worth $230 Million Guaranteed and the Ravens are doing right by every other team in the NFL by saying so.

Love this.

He isn't a top tier QB. Offer was actually probably too much. Ravens are lucky he turned it down. Highly unlikely he will be better than he is today and most likely will not be as good.

HeyRelaxGuy · 09-13-2022, 08:35 PM

I just can't see him topping Flacco, man. I just can't. He had about five or so years where he just went absolutely nuts in the playoffs and won so many important games. Oh, and yes, he won the SB as well and was named the MVP! Beat both Manning and Brady that year.

heatdawg · 09-13-2022, 08:48 PM

I think its great what he is doing, I also believe it will pay off. Bring the power back to the players, just not as far as the NBA where they run the league and ruin it.

packman80 · 09-13-2022, 09:00 PM

At this point Jackson might as well sit and see if Burrow and/or Herbert sign new contracts after the season. They will reset the market if they do and then he can go off those contracts.

notfast · 09-14-2022, 06:39 AM

Love reading the same comments in every Lamar Jackson thread. Dude continues to put up numbers and win games and you have people talking about how he’s stupid.

Cousins. Dak. Kyler…all got paid. No one with a brain is taking any of these guys over Lamar. He will get a big deal and it will likely be with the Ravens.

There’s a reason the Ravens are perennial contenders and it starts with Lamar Jackson.

rman112 · 09-14-2022, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by notfast

Love reading the same comments in every Lamar Jackson thread. Dude continues to put up numbers and win games and you have people talking about how he’s stupid.

Cousins. Dak. Kyler…all got paid. No one with a brain is taking any of these guys over Lamar. He will get a big deal and it will likely be with the Ravens.

There’s a reason the Ravens are perennial contenders and it starts with Lamar Jackson.

Are they really contenders though?

Boo · 09-14-2022, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rman112

Are they really contenders though?

Playoff contenders, not Super Bowl contenders.

Grid · 09-14-2022, 02:37 PM

Jackson is good! The Ravens offer shows both respect, and concern. The money is there, it just looks like he wants it all guaranteed. Which is hard to give a mobile QB, when running is such a big part of their game.

They tend to get inured by their nature. And if they still get 100% of their contract. VS being opted out or settled with, that can really hurt the team.

The biggest issue they are having, is the fact he is negotiating himself. Much like the Bears had to do with Roquan Smith.

The teams cant state the obvious, like they would to an agent, when they are talking directly to the player himself. Too much risk of hurt feelings.

notfast · 09-14-2022, 03:05 PM

Since 2018, he’s missed 6 games. 4 last year due to injury. 1 previous year because Covid and 1 in 2019 because playoffs were clinched.

The “running QBs get injured more” thing is a tired take.

Grid · 09-14-2022, 03:22 PM

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Since 2018, he’s missed 6 games. 4 last year due to injury. 1 previous year because Covid and 1 in 2019 because playoffs were clinched.

The “running QBs get injured more” thing is a tired take.

If you think a typical drop back QB is at the same risk of injuries as a running one, you are just being silly. Concussions, sprains you name it all go up the more they run.

Go look at how many games Vick, RGIII, Cam Newton ETC missed during their careers.

Its not just missing games, but a general degradation as running QBs age and start to wear out. Much like running backs. Jacksons stats across the board have been in decline since his 2019 breakout season.

Just for injuries...

Oct 7, 2020 NFL Knee Patella Sprain Jackson missed Ravens' practice ahead of the Week 5 game vs. the Bengals due to a knee injury. He was cleared to play that game

Jan 16, 2021 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Jackson suffered a concussion on the last play of the third quarter during the divisional-round playoff game at Buffalo.

Sep 29, 2021 NFL Back Lower Lumbar Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Jackson managed to play in Week 4 against the Broncos, despite not practicing with a back injury.

Dec 12, 2021 NFL Pedal Ankle Sprain Grade 2 Jackson suffered an ankle sprain in Week 14's loss to the Browns. He missed the rest of the season

09-11-2022, 03:30 PM	#1
HeyRelaxGuy Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: Toronto Posts: 670	Lamar Jackson turned down contract larger than Russell Wilson's in key areas https://www.nfl.com/news/ravens-qb-l...ilson-s-in-key Isn't this kind of ridiculous? Is he putting up Mahomes numbers? Did the Ravens go to the SB? Wtf, man ...

09-11-2022, 05:00 PM	#5
Boo Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: PA Posts: 54,481 klay22	He wants a fully guaranteed contract like Watson. I’m glad the teams are saying no way, that was a dumb contract. __________________ I have found that flicking through a few threads on my smartphone is a great way to pass some time while "stocking the pond."Hairy 6/7/12 “ I feel you, brother. Welcome to East Berlin, circa 1963.” Hairy 5/9/20

09-11-2022, 04:20 PM	#3
EPH289 Member Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 242	He isn't worth that offer and is clearly a greedy idiot for not taking it.

09-11-2022, 04:58 PM	#4
regularp Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,110	$100 million less guaranteed money than Deshaun Watson.

09-11-2022, 05:08 PM	#9
Ruffy Banned - PBM Join Date: Aug 2021 Posts: 254	Maybe he'll pull a "Leveon Bell" and sit out next year. Then sign for a fraction of what he could have gotten. Hey, it's an option.

09-13-2022, 08:35 PM	#17
HeyRelaxGuy Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: Toronto Posts: 670	I just can't see him topping Flacco, man. I just can't. He had about five or so years where he just went absolutely nuts in the playoffs and won so many important games. Oh, and yes, he won the SB as well and was named the MVP! Beat both Manning and Brady that year.

09-13-2022, 08:48 PM	#18
heatdawg Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 1,489 heatbreaker	I think its great what he is doing, I also believe it will pay off. Bring the power back to the players, just not as far as the NBA where they run the league and ruin it.

09-13-2022, 09:00 PM	#19
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 16,756	At this point Jackson might as well sit and see if Burrow and/or Herbert sign new contracts after the season. They will reset the market if they do and then he can go off those contracts.

09-14-2022, 06:39 AM	#20
notfast Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: MD Posts: 4,028	Love reading the same comments in every Lamar Jackson thread. Dude continues to put up numbers and win games and you have people talking about how he’s stupid. Cousins. Dak. Kyler…all got paid. No one with a brain is taking any of these guys over Lamar. He will get a big deal and it will likely be with the Ravens. There’s a reason the Ravens are perennial contenders and it starts with Lamar Jackson.

09-14-2022, 02:37 PM	#23
Grid Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 12,869 Gridiron-Gladiators	Jackson is good! The Ravens offer shows both respect, and concern. The money is there, it just looks like he wants it all guaranteed. Which is hard to give a mobile QB, when running is such a big part of their game. They tend to get inured by their nature. And if they still get 100% of their contract. VS being opted out or settled with, that can really hurt the team. The biggest issue they are having, is the fact he is negotiating himself. Much like the Bears had to do with Roquan Smith. The teams cant state the obvious, like they would to an agent, when they are talking directly to the player himself. Too much risk of hurt feelings.

09-14-2022, 03:05 PM	#24
notfast Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: MD Posts: 4,028	Since 2018, he’s missed 6 games. 4 last year due to injury. 1 previous year because Covid and 1 in 2019 because playoffs were clinched. The “running QBs get injured more” thing is a tired take.