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Old 04-08-2022, 07:46 AM   #1
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Default 2003-04 Lebron Auto!! Real or Fake!!

Never seen one of these. Is it real or fake? Did these come with a white sticker?



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Old 04-08-2022, 07:51 AM   #2
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Never seen one of these. Is it real or fake? Did these come with a white sticker?




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Old 04-08-2022, 07:55 AM   #3
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Have you ever seen one of these? What is the white sticker?
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Old 04-08-2022, 07:57 AM   #4
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The white sticker is an inventory sticker that looks like its on the holder
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The white sticker is an inventory sticker that looks like its on the holder
So you think its real? Were they counterfeits of these?
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Old 04-08-2022, 08:00 AM   #6
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From that product 2003-04 UD Rookies Exclusives there was also the autograph variation. To mee seems legit. The white stickers has no clue.

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Old 04-08-2022, 08:36 AM   #7
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Everybody so far including OP is trolling right?
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Everybody so far including OP is trolling right?
Trolling?
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Old 04-08-2022, 10:15 AM   #10
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So you think its real? Were they counterfeits of these?
Yes, these have been faked before and even now. I couldnt find old pictures of the counterfeits going around a few years ago. Theres been a thread or two about these before. Heres a pic actually.

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Old 04-08-2022, 01:56 PM   #11
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Most likely fake
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Old 04-08-2022, 02:00 PM   #12
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That sticker on the holder means nothing. It was probably stuck there by a dealer. That signature doesn't match any of the known fakes. I'd say it's real, but you don't know for sure until you have it in hand and can inspect it.
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Old 04-08-2022, 03:44 PM   #13
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That sticker on the holder means nothing. It was probably stuck there by a dealer. That signature doesn't match any of the known fakes. I'd say it's real, but you don't know for sure until you have it in hand and can inspect it.
The signature looks exactly like the card in the thread I linked.
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The fact that it has a sticker that says "All Guarantees become Void if Seal is Damaged" makes me think it's definitely fake. Why would it suddenly become inauthentic if the seal is damaged?

You should ask for more photos outside of the seal.
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Old 04-08-2022, 04:17 PM   #15
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FAKE!

Here's two other copies of that fake card. If you look at the autos, they're the exact same. They're just reprints.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/12523804484...UAAOSwMc9iSJGd

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15479006557...p2047675.l2557
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Old 04-08-2022, 04:59 PM   #16
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Here's a video showing a side by side featuring the same fake autograph pattern

https://youtu.be/fFP-J3_tvNI
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The signature looks exactly like the card in the thread I linked.
Oh hell, you're right. I stand corrected. Most definitely a fake.
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What I was thinking.


This is another Will Hauser special. The 'authenticity guaranteed - void if sticker removed' sticker is the latest scam tactic for homemade reprints and forged autos on mercari and ebay. This card is simply a xerox'd photocopy of an original.

That card did not come in a lucite holder with a 'void if sticker removed' label back in 03.
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Old 04-08-2022, 09:49 PM   #19
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I made the trip to Simpsonville and the card was a 100% fake. Easy to tell in person. I knew it was fake off the go when I first seen it. I kinda played it off and ask the guy could I take it out of the case to look at the signature and he told me if I broke the seal it was mine.
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I made the trip to Simpsonville and the card was a 100% fake. Easy to tell in person. I knew it was fake off the go when I first seen it. I kinda played it off and ask the guy could I take it out of the case to look at the signature and he told me if I broke the seal it was mine.
Was fake meaning it was a printed auto or a fake forged signature on a reprint?
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These 'void if seal removed' are the scammer's new attempt at circumventing buyer returns. As soon as you see any card with one of these....run. This has been going on for well over a year.
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The ink should always be as faded as the card.
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Literally looks like it's printed off a computer
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Literally looks like it's printed off a computer
Because it is.
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Not necessarily. Could be that sketch artist who replicates cards pixel by pixel.
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