What happens to Prizm if Topps reenters the basketball market?

Giancarlo27 · 04-07-2021, 08:59 AM

With Topps going public a lot of people on here have been speculating that they are looking for growth opportunities; reentering basketball seems like a pretty obvious bet. If the league ever granted Topps a license to compete with Panini, my guess is that Topps Chrome would supplant Prizm as the premier “investment” product and Prizm would crater in value. Prizm designs are embarrassingly ugly compared to Topps Chrome IMO, and doesn’t possess the same lineage. Thoughts?

Steve88 · 04-07-2021, 09:01 AM

Hope it happens. Competition would be great for the hobby

Zacy87 · 04-07-2021, 09:01 AM

It's all opinion based and the odds of Topps getting their NBA license back is extremely low.

Diver757 · 04-07-2021, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve88

Hope it happens. Competition would be great for the hobby

Doesn't that just turn into the 80's-90's again with a million cards being produced?

blackbears86 · 04-07-2021, 09:35 AM

fingers crossed this happens. LOTS of $$$$ to be made in the NBA (and NFL for that matter) I can see topps making a push back into both markets.

gowizards0 · 04-07-2021, 09:36 AM

hope it happens

blackbears86 · 04-07-2021, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Zacy87

It's all opinion based and the odds of Topps getting their NBA license back is extremely low.

Did Panini just re-up with the NBA for three years last year?

kevbojones · 04-07-2021, 09:41 AM

There already are a million cards being produced.

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Originally Posted by Diver757

Doesn't that just turn into the 80's-90's again with a million cards being produced?

GeechQuest · 04-07-2021, 09:48 AM

Topps won’t come back and compete, but if they did I’d expect dilution instead of competition.

Schmoove · 04-07-2021, 09:50 AM

If Topps came back, people would complain about their designs and make posts wishing Upper Deck got their license back.

patchgenie · 04-07-2021, 09:56 AM

would be great. wouldn't have to look at overpriced panini garbage.

frobebryant · 04-07-2021, 10:16 AM

my first thought when i heard Topps spac-ed was Topps is now going to raise its prices across the board...

SupermanBrandon · 04-07-2021, 10:27 AM

Is this topic becoming a weekly thing now? Topps ISNT getting an NBA license anytime soon! Not happening.

Giancarlo27 · 04-07-2021, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Is this topic becoming a weekly thing now? Topps ISNT getting an NBA license anytime soon! Not happening.

Doesn't hurt to dream

cboog3105 · 04-07-2021, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmoove

If Topps came back, people would complain about their designs and make posts wishing Upper Deck got their license back.

i just want fleer back

tier1dc · 04-07-2021, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Giancarlo27

Doesn't hurt to dream

Never going to happen.

Panini net worth is in the billions.
Topps millions.

They'll never be able to afford the license.

Mrhenrychan · 04-07-2021, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmoove

If Topps came back, people would complain about their designs and make posts wishing Upper Deck got their license back.

People do actually to have a chance to pull a MJ, Bronny or Simmons auto...

dcarado · 04-07-2021, 10:53 AM

Not happening, but if it did, Prizm won't flinch in this market. There's room enough for both.

k13 · 04-07-2021, 11:07 AM

Chrome and prizm are both in soccer and prizm sells better.

Chrome is nothing special just like prizm is nothing special only the amount of sheep followers that try to pump it.

You think Chrome is something special go buy some hockey topps Chrome and see how popular it is.
Oh yeah no one gives a #@#@#@#@.

Because sheep there follow something else.

Topps produced mostly garbage sticker autos in basketball and nasty designs for 90% of their products.

gowizards0 · 04-07-2021, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by k13

Chrome and prizm are both in soccer and prizm sells better.

Chrome is nothing special just like prizm is nothing special only the amount of sheep followers that try to pump it.

You think Chrome is something special go buy some hockey topps Chrome and see how popular it is.
Oh yeah no one gives a #@#@#@#@.

Because sheep there follow something else.

Topps produced mostly garbage sticker autos in basketball and nasty designs for 90% of their products.

you think soccer and hockey is the same as basketball?

Tallboy · 04-07-2021, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Giancarlo27

With Topps going public a lot of people on here have been speculating that they are looking for growth opportunities; reentering basketball seems like a pretty obvious bet. If the league ever granted Topps a license to compete with Panini, my guess is that Topps Chrome would supplant Prizm as the premier “investment” product and Prizm would crater in value. Prizm designs are embarrassingly ugly compared to Topps Chrome IMO, and doesn’t possess the same lineage. Thoughts?

I don't think it's a zero sum game. I think TC & Prizm can both thrive now that they are both established.

With that said I'll certainly acknowledge that Topps has a lot of brand momentum right now in contrast to, say, Upper Deck. Wouldn't shock me if basketball fans went nuts for Topps/TC if things opened up again in a way that they wouldn't for any of UD non-ultra-high end products.

Re: design. While I generally prefer TC to Prizm design-wise, I think the reality is that from a pure shiny perspective, Prizm takes things further and people seem to like it.

SupermanBrandon · 04-07-2021, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gowizards0

you think soccer and hockey is the same as basketball?

Ignore k13. He hates everything.

glassofwater · 04-07-2021, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tier1dc

Never going to happen.

Panini net worth is in the billions.
Topps millions.

They'll never be able to afford the license.

Haven’t you heard the news topps is going public, value over a billion. They just acquired the rights to euro 2024 over panini.

In their portfolio yesterday they want to acquire we licenses. That’s why nba has become a discussion.

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byronscott4ever · 04-07-2021, 12:04 PM

It would be awesome to have competition—it means I’ll have TWO companies I can’t find at retail.

Chris P · 04-07-2021, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Ignore k13. He hates everything.

Except Nassir Little!!

04-07-2021, 08:59 AM	#1
Giancarlo27 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NYC Posts: 11,169	What happens to Prizm if Topps reenters the basketball market? With Topps going public a lot of people on here have been speculating that they are looking for growth opportunities; reentering basketball seems like a pretty obvious bet. If the league ever granted Topps a license to compete with Panini, my guess is that Topps Chrome would supplant Prizm as the premier “investment” product and Prizm would crater in value. Prizm designs are embarrassingly ugly compared to Topps Chrome IMO, and doesn’t possess the same lineage. Thoughts? __________________ Collecting: Giancarlo Stanton, Sandy Koufax, Hideki Matsui, Topps Archives Autographs

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gowizards0 Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: dc Posts: 7,178	hope it happens __________________ https://www.flickr.com/gp/76567484@N05/x3no8r Collect Pokemon, 2000s Basketball Football Follow me on Instagram! CardCatcherJ

04-07-2021, 09:01 AM	#2
Steve88 Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 1,090	Hope it happens. Competition would be great for the hobby

04-07-2021, 09:01 AM	#3
Zacy87 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 10,659	It's all opinion based and the odds of Topps getting their NBA license back is extremely low.

04-07-2021, 09:35 AM	#5
blackbears86 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: maine Posts: 17,067 blackbears86	fingers crossed this happens. LOTS of $$$$ to be made in the NBA (and NFL for that matter) I can see topps making a push back into both markets.

04-07-2021, 09:48 AM	#9
GeechQuest Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 10,779 GeechQuest	Topps won’t come back and compete, but if they did I’d expect dilution instead of competition.

04-07-2021, 09:50 AM	#10
Schmoove Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: 301 Posts: 595	If Topps came back, people would complain about their designs and make posts wishing Upper Deck got their license back.

04-07-2021, 09:56 AM	#11
patchgenie Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,702 americansportscards	would be great. wouldn't have to look at overpriced panini garbage.

04-07-2021, 10:16 AM	#12
frobebryant Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 118	my first thought when i heard Topps spac-ed was Topps is now going to raise its prices across the board...

04-07-2021, 10:27 AM	#13
SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,843	Is this topic becoming a weekly thing now? Topps ISNT getting an NBA license anytime soon! Not happening.

04-07-2021, 10:53 AM	#18
dcarado Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 4,575 dcarado56	Not happening, but if it did, Prizm won't flinch in this market. There's room enough for both.

04-07-2021, 11:07 AM	#19
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	Chrome and prizm are both in soccer and prizm sells better. Chrome is nothing special just like prizm is nothing special only the amount of sheep followers that try to pump it. You think Chrome is something special go buy some hockey topps Chrome and see how popular it is. Oh yeah no one gives a #@#@#@#@. Because sheep there follow something else. Topps produced mostly garbage sticker autos in basketball and nasty designs for 90% of their products.

04-07-2021, 12:04 PM	#24
byronscott4ever Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 11,351	It would be awesome to have competition—it means I’ll have TWO companies I can’t find at retail.