does this psa 10 i bought look like a 10?

Kdog5 · 01-30-2020, 08:01 PM

seeking advice. im more beginner than anything with graded cards. i cant imagine this is really a psa 10. just got it in mail today. should i be worried

thenwhatjk · 01-30-2020, 08:03 PM

Looks perfect

NYRE2PECT · 01-30-2020, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kdog5

seeking advice. im more beginner than anything with graded cards. i cant imagine this is really a psa 10. just got it in mail today. should i be worried

Picture? Attaching pictures here takes some learning....

Kdog5 · 01-30-2020, 08:05 PM

lol first post, just edited. i really do not feel confident about this psa 10......worried

ThoseBackPages · 01-30-2020, 08:05 PM

Great looking card!

NYRE2PECT · 01-30-2020, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kdog5

lol first post, just edited. i really do not feel confident about this psa 10......worried

It's a PSA 10 if it is slabbed a PSA 10 in an unadulterated slab, for now anyways. It could have received a friendly bump. It could be moving around and bumping against the edge.

Can you take a full slab picture for the folks here to review?

Kdog5 · 01-30-2020, 08:20 PM

i scanned the card you can see bottom right pretty well has some white spots. i am by no means more than a beginner so seeking real advice!

Kdog5 · 01-30-2020, 08:23 PM

if i zoom in super close you can see all this white, i cant imagine this is really gem mint 10

LVDan · 01-30-2020, 08:31 PM

Grading companies only give an opinion. They are by no means consistent or even accurate. Slabs provide a safe liquidity for resale but don’t necessarily reflect what the actual condition of the card is. For that, trust your eyes and not what the slab says.
And I agree, like many other “10s” I’ve seen- that card is kinda shabby.

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ThoseBackPages · 01-30-2020, 08:33 PM

yea, if you are not happy with it, return it for sure

Kdog5 · 01-30-2020, 09:11 PM

do you guys think it happened (from what i gathered from the comments) probably just by moving around in the case over the years and thats why? seems like the most likely reason? but im glad you guys generally agree it doesnt look like a solid 10

ThoseBackPages · 01-30-2020, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kdog5

do you guys think it happened (from what i gathered from the comments) probably just by moving around in the case over the years and thats why? seems like the most likely reason? but im glad you guys generally agree it doesnt look like a solid 10

have to remember that PSA 10 and BGS 10's are not the same.

PSA 10s are not, nor should be expected to be, flawless

dictoresno · 01-30-2020, 09:17 PM

some cards are just factory rougher cut than others. given the very glossy top coat on these, I dont think its uncommon to find cuts like this that still can get a PSA 10 grade.

ThoseBackPages · 01-30-2020, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dictoresno

some cards are just factory rougher cut than others. given the very glossy top coat on these, I dont think its uncommon to find cuts like this that still can get a PSA 10 grade.

these actually have no gloss, and have a matte feel to them

MoreToppsPlease · 01-30-2020, 09:19 PM

Since you’re interested in the card, I’d suggest sending it back. As others have said the number on the label is just a guide.

3124508 on COMC · 01-30-2020, 09:20 PM

Looks like an authentic, unaltered card.

Kdog5 · 01-30-2020, 09:38 PM

thanks all. seems like my understanding of a "10" is more ideal than is really the case. as a beginner, this message board has helped me better understand. thanks everyone. have a blessed evening.

Willikn · 01-30-2020, 10:57 PM

None of the white goes into the edge. A little fuzz on a straight edge is good squishy IMO. Looks like an untrimmed 10. Nice card.

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NYRE2PECT · 01-30-2020, 11:50 PM

Look here and compare. Some of that seems common...

https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice.../values/221178

dictoresno · 01-31-2020, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

these actually have no gloss, and have a matte feel to them

I stand corrected. figured these have the typical glossy fronts similar to the stadium club of the period.

sickmantz · 01-31-2020, 01:23 AM

PSA 10 also doesn't mean perfect.

delangley1977 · 01-31-2020, 04:25 AM

I have a PSA 10 Nick senzel that my eye test says should be a 7 at best. It’s kinda a joke actually.

Craiggysanford · 01-31-2020, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kdog5

thanks all. seems like my understanding of a "10" is more ideal than is really the case. as a beginner, this message board has helped me better understand. thanks everyone. have a blessed evening.

Idk the actual guidelines. But a PSA 10 can have some minor flaws, its all about the "eye appeal". A BGS 10 is one that should have 0 flaws. Thats always been my understanding. Thats why BGS 10s sell for SO much more then PSA 10s.

WizardofOz1982 · 01-31-2020, 08:08 AM

That looks like a pretty solid 1997 Fleer. The stock they used that year is terrible for fuzzing/rough edges. PSA takes things like that into account whereas Beckett does not.

patchgenie · 01-31-2020, 08:27 AM

no, i would return it. it must of been a blindfolded grading contest at psa that day.

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01-30-2020, 08:31 PM	#9
LVDan Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 17,495	Grading companies only give an opinion. They are by no means consistent or even accurate. Slabs provide a safe liquidity for resale but don’t necessarily reflect what the actual condition of the card is. For that, trust your eyes and not what the slab says. And I agree, like many other “10s” I’ve seen- that card is kinda shabby. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ So we cheated and we lied and we tested. And we never failed to fail; it was the easiest thing to do.

01-30-2020, 08:33 PM	#10
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,123 ThoseBackPages	yea, if you are not happy with it, return it for sure __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

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MoreToppsPlease Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 8,676	Since you’re interested in the card, I’d suggest sending it back. As others have said the number on the label is just a guide. __________________ IRS Tax Tip 2022-57 A hobby is any activity that a person pursues because they enjoy it and with no intention of making a profit. People operate a business with the intention of making a profit.

01-30-2020, 08:05 PM	#4
Kdog5 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 8	lol first post, just edited. i really do not feel confident about this psa 10......worried

01-30-2020, 09:11 PM	#11
Kdog5 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 8	do you guys think it happened (from what i gathered from the comments) probably just by moving around in the case over the years and thats why? seems like the most likely reason? but im glad you guys generally agree it doesnt look like a solid 10

01-30-2020, 09:17 PM	#13
dictoresno Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: NJ Posts: 4,265 smzcards	some cards are just factory rougher cut than others. given the very glossy top coat on these, I dont think its uncommon to find cuts like this that still can get a PSA 10 grade.

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3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,367	Looks like an authentic, unaltered card. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

01-30-2020, 09:38 PM	#17
Kdog5 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 8	thanks all. seems like my understanding of a "10" is more ideal than is really the case. as a beginner, this message board has helped me better understand. thanks everyone. have a blessed evening.

01-30-2020, 10:57 PM	#18
Willikn Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Harrison, OH Posts: 1,643 willikn	None of the white goes into the edge. A little fuzz on a straight edge is good squishy IMO. Looks like an untrimmed 10. Nice card. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk

01-30-2020, 11:50 PM	#19
NYRE2PECT Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: San Antonio Posts: 7,717	Look here and compare. Some of that seems common... https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice.../values/221178

01-31-2020, 01:23 AM	#21
sickmantz Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: CA Posts: 2,469 vashthe84	PSA 10 also doesn't mean perfect. __________________ In a system built on racism, status quo sustains it.

01-31-2020, 04:25 AM	#22
delangley1977 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 509	I have a PSA 10 Nick senzel that my eye test says should be a 7 at best. It’s kinda a joke actually.

01-31-2020, 08:08 AM	#24
WizardofOz1982 Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 1,342 wizardofoz82 WizardOfOz1982	That looks like a pretty solid 1997 Fleer. The stock they used that year is terrible for fuzzing/rough edges. PSA takes things like that into account whereas Beckett does not.

01-31-2020, 08:27 AM	#25
patchgenie Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,702 americansportscards	no, i would return it. it must of been a blindfolded grading contest at psa that day.