Jackie Robinson RCs taking off

investinrookies · 06-17-2020, 04:58 PM

anyone else notice the high prices the last few 48 leaf rookies got at auction. Maybe everything going on in the world today is playing a part in this increase and people are starting to pay notice to how significant he really was as a person and a player. Looks like his cards are starting to take off, will they keep going from here? His 49 bowman issue is also considered a true rookie is it next to move up big?

Crazy prices these all got, especially ending on the same night.

6/15-1948 leaf PSA 7-$38,988
6/15-1948 leaf SGC 6.5-$18,656
6/15-1948 leaf UGLY PSA 4-$10,800

vintg · 06-17-2020, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by investinrookies

anyone else notice the high prices the last few 48 leaf rookies got at auction. Maybe everything going on in the world today is playing a part in this increase and people are starting to pay notice to how significant he really was as a person and a player. Looks like his cards are starting to take off, will they keep going from here? His 49 bowman issue is also considered a true rookie is it next to move up big?

Crazy prices these all got, especially ending on the same night.

6/15-1948 leaf PSA 7-$38,988
6/15-1948 leaf SGC 6.5-$18,656
6/15-1948 leaf UGLY PSA 4-$10,800

YES

I've noticed it on the cards I have/ follow: '53 topps, really good.

'55 and '56 topps, decent.

VanLingoMungo46 · 06-17-2020, 05:48 PM

The 55 Jackie has sold for much higher prices these last few months. Pretty sure all his cards have climbed lately.

Illustrious · 06-17-2020, 06:49 PM

I got priced out of the '48 Leaf and picked up his '49 Bowman instead, I imagine lots more people will be following suit.

rats60 · 06-17-2020, 07:41 PM

This is my 1949 Leaf Jackie Robinson. I graded it myself. I think it should have graded higher, but I am a nobody to PSA. The centering is the only issue with it. That PSA 7 PWCC sold is an old grade. Mine is much nicer.

investinrookies · 06-17-2020, 07:52 PM

very nice jackie rc, thanks for sharing. I like both his 48 leaf and 49 bowman. The 49 bowman with the red background is especially nice.

juandylan · 06-17-2020, 10:30 PM

Been watching and waiting on a Jackie and they are certainly climbing. Surprised? Not at all, his importance in American history and culture is undeniable.

ToddW · 06-18-2020, 01:11 AM

Known trimmers/card doctors have handled lots of the Leaf and Bowman Jackies. It’s possible that some do the pricing on cards with provenance might be pushing some of these up.

omega145 · 06-18-2020, 08:41 AM

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Been watching and waiting on a Jackie and they are certainly climbing. Surprised? Not at all, his importance in American history and culture is undeniable.

Exactly this

MRSPORTSCARD · 06-26-2020, 05:40 PM

He is beyond baseball. He might give the Mantle 1952 card a run.

MRSPORTSCARD · 06-26-2020, 05:42 PM

I remember around 5 years ago a PSA Jackie Robinson graded 4 could have been bought for $500 dollars.

investinrookies · 06-27-2020, 07:09 PM

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He is beyond baseball. He might give the Mantle 1952 card a run.

His cards are a great investment for sure and are rising at a good pace, but even his 48L/49B would have a long way to go before they ever eclipse the status of the 52T Mantle, which is the king of all postwar cards and arguably the king of kings.

rats60 · 06-27-2020, 07:40 PM

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His cards are a great investment for sure and are rising at a good pace, but even his 48L/49B would have a long way to go before they ever eclipse the status of the 52T Mantle, which is the king of all postwar cards and arguably the king of kings.

The Jackie has tripled in value in the last 2 years. The Mantle is 100-120k in PSA 7 and has been pretty flat. If it keeps going it isn’t out of the question that it could catch the Mantle. Mantle is and has been king of postwar cards for a long time, but Jackie is the more iconic player. Much the way the M101-4/5 Babe Ruth has taken its place as one of the key prewar cards, I could see the Jackie selling in the same range as the Mantle some day.

PSA has graded more Mantles overall. 74 7s of each. 40 Jackie 8s to 35 Mantle 8s. 8 9s to 6 Mantle 9s. 0 10s to 3 Mantle 10s. The populations are pretty similar.

investinrookies · 06-27-2020, 10:50 PM

Are you comparing the leaf Jackie to the mantle?

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investinrookies · 06-30-2020, 04:56 PM

I looked up the pop reports and see what you are talking about. Also, the bowman RC has similar pop numbers to both.

rats60 · 07-01-2020, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by investinrookies

I looked up the pop reports and see what you are talking about. Also, the bowman RC has similar pop numbers to both.

The question is will the Mantle RC ever have the demand that the 52 Topps has? It has always been underpriced compared to the Topps. The difference with the Jackie RC is that his legacy goes beyond his on field accomplishments. That is keeping his popularity increasing where it seems that Mantle is leveling off. The question is can his popularity rise to the level of Mantle?

investinrookies · 07-01-2020, 04:14 PM

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The question is will the Mantle RC ever have the demand that the 52 Topps has? It has always been underpriced compared to the Topps. The difference with the Jackie RC is that his legacy goes beyond his on field accomplishments. That is keeping his popularity increasing where it seems that Mantle is leveling off. The question is can his popularity rise to the level of Mantle?

I personally dont see any post war player getting to the level of Mantle. Jackie is a strong second however due to reasons you mentioned above. I also dont see any postwar card ever getting to the level price wise or popularity to the 52T Mantle. That card is to iconic and the staple of the entire hobby. Also not sure Mantle is leveling off, and in fact the 52T Mantle may be setting up for another run. An SGC 5.5 52T Mantle sold for $72,500 Monday night, beat out the previous highest sale by $22500 for any card of that grade on VCP and the lower graded copies keep selling for higher and higher amounts. Also a PSA 8 59T mantle sold for $6400 last night. People have and always will pay up for nice Mantles.

notfast · 07-01-2020, 04:41 PM

A PSA 2 48 Leaf recently sold for $8100 on eBay. Prices have certainly taken off and I think it is well deserved.

Very tough and iconic cards. As rare as a 52 Topps Mantle...

investinrookies · 07-01-2020, 05:19 PM

While I don’t disagree that the leaf has seen an uptick lately, that particular psa 2 was relisted so it didn’t actually “sale” for that. Meanwhile a psa 2 52T mantle goes for 20/25k depending on centering. There also is a nice psa 2.5 up at goldin auctions currently sitting at $28800 with several days left. As I said earlier the 52T Mantle isn’t leveling off anytime soon and will rise with all the rest.

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notfast · 07-01-2020, 05:45 PM

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While I don’t disagree that the leaf has seen an uptick lately, that particular psa 2 was relisted so it didn’t actually “sale” for that. Meanwhile a psa 2 52T mantle goes for 20/25k depending on centering. There also is a nice psa 2.5 up at goldin auctions currently sitting it at $28800 with several days left. As I said earlier the 52T Mantle isn’t leveling off anytime soon and will rise with all the rest.

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Didn’t notice the first psa 2 didn’t get paid for but it does look like another sold for $7350 BIN. I’m aware of a sgc 20 selling for $6k direct as well

investinrookies · 07-01-2020, 08:08 PM

Regardless the 52T mantle is way ahead of the leaf Robinson and will always be king of the postwar. That being said, both the leaf and Bowman Robinson rookies should continue to run and are both likely still very undervalued in comparison to many others, especially given Jackie’s iconic status.

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5CentWaxPack · 07-05-2020, 10:45 AM

I missed the boat on the Leaf Roby. I recall someone having sent me a link to a discussion about this card actually having been one of the cards in the Leaf set that had been issued in 1949 and could not have been issued in 1948.

rats60 · 07-05-2020, 11:41 AM

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I missed the boat on the Leaf Roby. I recall someone having sent me a link to a discussion about this card actually having been one of the cards in the Leaf set that had been issued in 1949 and could not have been issued in 1948.

All of the Leaf Baseball cards were issued in 1949.

5CentWaxPack · 07-07-2020, 01:32 PM

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All of the Leaf Baseball cards were issued in 1949.

Reason, please? I know I saw a conversation someplace on the Roby being from 49 but I thought I read the set was issued in 48 and in 49.

adamwanaselja · 07-07-2020, 02:14 PM

The Jackie Robinson has a copyright date of 1949 on the back of his Leaf. Musial has a copyright of 1948 on the back of his.

06-17-2020, 04:58 PM	#1
investinrookies Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 532	Jackie Robinson RCs taking off anyone else notice the high prices the last few 48 leaf rookies got at auction. Maybe everything going on in the world today is playing a part in this increase and people are starting to pay notice to how significant he really was as a person and a player. Looks like his cards are starting to take off, will they keep going from here? His 49 bowman issue is also considered a true rookie is it next to move up big? Crazy prices these all got, especially ending on the same night. 6/15-1948 leaf PSA 7-$38,988 6/15-1948 leaf SGC 6.5-$18,656 6/15-1948 leaf UGLY PSA 4-$10,800

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rats60 Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 9,915	This is my 1949 Leaf Jackie Robinson. I graded it myself. I think it should have graded higher, but I am a nobody to PSA. The centering is the only issue with it. That PSA 7 PWCC sold is an old grade. Mine is much nicer. Last edited by rats60; 06-17-2020 at 07:45 PM.

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investinrookies Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 532	Jackie Robinson RCs taking off Are you comparing the leaf Jackie to the mantle? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by investinrookies; 06-27-2020 at 10:52 PM.

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investinrookies Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 532	Jackie Robinson RCs taking off While I don’t disagree that the leaf has seen an uptick lately, that particular psa 2 was relisted so it didn’t actually “sale” for that. Meanwhile a psa 2 52T mantle goes for 20/25k depending on centering. There also is a nice psa 2.5 up at goldin auctions currently sitting at $28800 with several days left. As I said earlier the 52T Mantle isn’t leveling off anytime soon and will rise with all the rest. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by investinrookies; 07-01-2020 at 05:45 PM.

06-17-2020, 05:48 PM	#3
VanLingoMungo46 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 696	The 55 Jackie has sold for much higher prices these last few months. Pretty sure all his cards have climbed lately.

06-17-2020, 06:49 PM	#4
Illustrious Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Virginia Posts: 185	I got priced out of the '48 Leaf and picked up his '49 Bowman instead, I imagine lots more people will be following suit.

06-17-2020, 07:52 PM	#6
investinrookies Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 532	very nice jackie rc, thanks for sharing. I like both his 48 leaf and 49 bowman. The 49 bowman with the red background is especially nice.

06-17-2020, 10:30 PM	#7
juandylan Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: New Jersey Posts: 283	Been watching and waiting on a Jackie and they are certainly climbing. Surprised? Not at all, his importance in American history and culture is undeniable.

06-18-2020, 01:11 AM	#8
ToddW Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 989 ToddW	Known trimmers/card doctors have handled lots of the Leaf and Bowman Jackies. It’s possible that some do the pricing on cards with provenance might be pushing some of these up.

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MRSPORTSCARD Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 1,796	He is beyond baseball. He might give the Mantle 1952 card a run.

06-26-2020, 05:42 PM	#11
MRSPORTSCARD Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 1,796	I remember around 5 years ago a PSA Jackie Robinson graded 4 could have been bought for $500 dollars.

06-30-2020, 04:56 PM	#15
investinrookies Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 532	I looked up the pop reports and see what you are talking about. Also, the bowman RC has similar pop numbers to both.

07-01-2020, 04:41 PM	#18
notfast Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: MD Posts: 4,033	A PSA 2 48 Leaf recently sold for $8100 on eBay. Prices have certainly taken off and I think it is well deserved. Very tough and iconic cards. As rare as a 52 Topps Mantle...

07-01-2020, 08:08 PM	#21
investinrookies Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 532	Regardless the 52T mantle is way ahead of the leaf Robinson and will always be king of the postwar. That being said, both the leaf and Bowman Robinson rookies should continue to run and are both likely still very undervalued in comparison to many others, especially given Jackie’s iconic status. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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5CentWaxPack Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Jersey...Baby Posts: 84	I missed the boat on the Leaf Roby. I recall someone having sent me a link to a discussion about this card actually having been one of the cards in the Leaf set that had been issued in 1949 and could not have been issued in 1948.

07-07-2020, 02:14 PM	#25
adamwanaselja Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: New York, NY Posts: 269	The Jackie Robinson has a copyright date of 1949 on the back of his Leaf. Musial has a copyright of 1948 on the back of his.