Blowout Cards Forums
AD Heritage

Go Back   Blowout Cards Forums > BLOWOUTS HOBBY TALK > BASEBALL

Notices

BASEBALL Post your Baseball Cards Hobby Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Yesterday, 01:36 PM   #1
Boredlawyer
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 2,209
Default Congrats! You just acquired a card company. Now what?

Congratulations! Your private equity firm just acquired the most popular sports card brand of all time, and, because you have the most experience in the hobby of anyone on the board, decided to name you the managing director.

Your newly-acquired card company has a lot of things going for it, but lack of innovation and general inefficiency have presented you with an opportunity and your firm acted hastily.

Your firm plans to either take the brand public via IPO, or sell this brand to another investor by Year 7.

Before acquiring this company, your firm acquired the exclusive license to produce Major League Baseball cards featuring official leagues and teams. While you aren't the only card producer, you're the only producer who owns this highly valuable license. Without this license, you have significant competition. Simply put, you have very little competition in a sport, that for all its warts, remains immensely popular in the United States, and retains the most collectability of the major sports.

Your consumers fall into a few different buckets, but volatility of your business is historically tied to discretionary spending. Your consumers are generally seasoned collectors who have seen multiple cycles in the hobby, Gen Z and millennials with discretionary spending, often due to crypto, and children being introduced to collectables for the first time. Each of these groups has different pricing elasticity and retention rate, but some economic factors will always be outside your scope of control.

Your board of directors understands that these changes will take time to implement, and has granted you a one year grace period to make necessary adjustments. After twelve months, the firm demands a 20% annual increase (earnings before interest/taxes/depreciation/amortization). Missing this goal for two consecutive years (starting Y2) will lead to your immediate ouster as managing director.

You are no longer merely a hobbyist, you are a managing director with the pressure of dozens of investors and your board. What is your plan?
Boredlawyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 01:46 PM   #2
hermanotarjeta
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 22,404
Default

1. Create a hoard of degenerate addicts.
2. Eliminate the middleman.
3. Drive up prices.
4. Grade the cards.
5. Sell the cards.
6. Collect profits.
hermanotarjeta is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 01:50 PM   #3
MiamiMarlinsFan
Member
 
MiamiMarlinsFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Florida
Posts: 13,821
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta View Post
1. Create a hoard of degenerate addicts.
2. Eliminate the middleman.
3. Drive up prices.
4. Rip the cards.
5. Grade the cards.
6. Store the cards.
7. Sell the cards.
8. Collect profits.

Made some slight tweaks, but otherwise, you’re hired on my staff as soon as I take power, Hermano.
MiamiMarlinsFan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 01:51 PM   #4
hermanotarjeta
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 22,404
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan View Post
Made some slight tweaks, but otherwise, you’re hired on my staff as soon as I take power, Hermano.
Ah yes, thank you for fine tuning the order of objectives.
hermanotarjeta is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 02:26 PM   #5
finfangfan
Member
 
finfangfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 11,852
Default

9. ipo
finfangfan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 02:32 PM   #6
OhioLawyerF5
Member
 
OhioLawyerF5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 7,137
Default

For all the crap they get, I would do exactly what Fanatics has done. Hobby friendly? debateable. Business masterclass? Absolutely.
OhioLawyerF5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 02:40 PM   #7
MiamiMarlinsFan
Member
 
MiamiMarlinsFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Florida
Posts: 13,821
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5 View Post
For all the crap they get, I would do exactly what Fanatics has done. Hobby friendly? debateable. Business masterclass? Absolutely.
I hate it, but you’re right. When Fanatics first made the acquisition, people were asking, “Is Fanatics in over their head?” but they’ve been too busy making money hand over fist to respond.
MiamiMarlinsFan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 02:43 PM   #8
Rooftop
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 3,546
Default

Model it like the diamond industry..

Oh wait...
Rooftop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 02:44 PM   #9
haldcottingham
Member
 
haldcottingham's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 89
Default

I remember when I bought a few hats years ago from Lids, and they sent me the complete wrong hats. I called to initiate a return. I told the rep that I had been avoiding Fanatics for that same reason and he told me that they had just been acquired by Fanatics...I said "sh!t" and without hesitation he said "yep, we've gotten that response a lot".

Fanatics has pretty much ruined everything they've put their hands on.
__________________
Always looking to trade for Dale Murphy autos, numbered, or oddballs I might not have.
haldcottingham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 02:57 PM   #10
Handsome Wes
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 971
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rooftop View Post
Model it like the diamond industry..

Oh wait...
Yeah, I don't think that I can force the people in Congo to make baseball cards for me
Handsome Wes is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 03:15 PM   #11
Handsome Wes
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 971
Default

Here's my $0.02:

I am reminded of when Steve Jobs returned to Apple and drew a square, and divided that vertically and horizontally. Left side was for casual users / right was for professional; i think Top was computer and bottom was ... I can't remember.

So I would first limit the number of SKUs to 3-5 core products, each one tailored for a specific audience. You'd have the base set, a premium set, a retro set, and maybe one or two limited run sets for uber collectors.

Limiting the SKUs would cut production costs, which in turn can be used to improve quality control, and make inventory management that much easier.

SPeaking of inventory management, I'd love to see something like an iTunes for cards -- maybe we can have a scannable code on each card and it'll automatically add that card into someone's virtual library.

I'd also prioritize vertical integration / supply chain overhaul and marketing (which would include partnerships with realtors and such).
Handsome Wes is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 03:22 PM   #12
seanbros55
Member
 
seanbros55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: From the 508 to the 707
Posts: 5,412
Default

Phase 1: Collect Underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit
seanbros55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 03:36 PM   #13
base set
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: NW Michigan
Posts: 9,559
Default

1 obtain intellectual property rights to the concept of “Bubble Gum Cards” from whatever shell remains of the Topps Chewing Gum Company

2 secretly create “hot boxes” of Baseball Cards with Bubble Gum in the packs

3 insert these boxes into an occasional case as “pallet hits”

4 watch media explosion on the concept and Boomers going crazy to find one

5 profit

Last edited by base set; Yesterday at 03:37 PM. Reason: you read it here first, timestamped
base set is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 03:38 PM   #14
Bosoxfan5990
Member
 
Bosoxfan5990's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: MA
Posts: 14,797
Default

This is a fantastic thread that proves a good point.
__________________
X & IG: rossisportcards. Bethel Johnson & A. Vinatieri.
"A Goldin Shower of sorrow and regret."
-ninjacookies (11/25/24)
"never did, never will" - Delta5 (9/25/24)
Bosoxfan5990 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 03:55 PM   #15
Jaypers
Bowman Scout
 
Jaypers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: IL
Posts: 51,744
Default

Just one of many things, but this stands out the most to me.

Get rid of all non-sports in sports cards. No more Disney or GPK in baseball products, for instance. Irks me to no end.
__________________
Impervious to baiting.
Jaypers is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 03:56 PM   #16
scal
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2024
Location: Northeast Ohio
Posts: 20
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaypers View Post
Just one of many things, but this stands out the most to me.

Get rid of all non-sports in sports cards. No more Disney or GPK in baseball products, for instance. Irks me to no end.
Does that go for Allen & Ginter, too?
scal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 04:18 PM   #17
eastbayak
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 16,565
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5 View Post
For all the crap they get, I would do exactly what Fanatics has done. Hobby friendly? debateable. Business masterclass? Absolutely.
Yup, I'd do the same as Fanatics except I'd include more hits in the product (instead of withholding), I'd get rid of redemptions, and I'd create multiple membership clubs (by the sport and/or product cost [low-end/mid-end/high-end, membership costs depending on the tier]).
eastbayak is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 04:33 PM   #18
Gatorsmld
Member
 
Gatorsmld's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Alabama
Posts: 2,682
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan View Post
I hate it, but you’re right. When Fanatics first made the acquisition, people were asking, “Is Fanatics in over their head?” but they’ve been too busy making money hand over fist to respond.
When I was a kid I remember seeing a cartoon about Scrooge McDuck laying in a bed made of gold with the blankets made out of cash. This is how I like to think of how Fanatics folks sleep.
__________________
PC - Ozzie Albies/Any Braves
Gatorsmld is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 04:34 PM   #19
corockies
Member
 
corockies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,318
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990 View Post
This is a fantastic thread that proves a good point.
$$$ > ethics and morality?

I'm pretty sure "it's just business" has become my #1 most hated phrase.
__________________
Instagram - serial_numbers_matter
corockies is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 04:54 PM   #20
vwnut13
Member
 
vwnut13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vermont
Posts: 6,130
Default

Flip it.
vwnut13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 05:01 PM   #21
Blamo
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Milwaukee
Posts: 295
Default

In an effort to get products out more quickly - all autographs will be redemptions. Redemptions will include current players, rookies, prospects, little league players (aka Ultra Prospects), retired players, dead players (aka post prospects).

Redemptions not submitted within a year can be exchanged for a mystery box, which will contain a redemption.
Blamo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 05:02 PM   #22
fabiani12333
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 12,559
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5 View Post
For all the crap they get, I would do exactly what Fanatics has done. Hobby friendly? debateable. Business masterclass? Absolutely.
They didn't do crap -- they acquired the licenses and Topps after the market had already exploded. They didn't create value -- they captured, just like other POS private equity companies.

The only innovation from them was offering the leagues and unions equity, which was already something they had been doing for the years: https://licensinginternational.org/n...nfl-mlb-nflpa/

Cornering an established market and monopolizing it is not innovation -- it's white collar thuggery.
fabiani12333 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 05:07 PM   #23
ThoseBackPages
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Long Island
Posts: 90,487
Default

sell to Fanatics
__________________
Pumpers Paradise
#YouCryIBuy
Four things that we cannot change each others minds about:
Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards
ThoseBackPages is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 05:07 PM   #24
mfw13
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 17,732
Default

The determining factor really is time horizon.....if you're trying to flip for a quick profit then you make very different choices that if you are trying to maximize the long-term value of the brand.
mfw13 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 05:09 PM   #25
finfangfan
Member
 
finfangfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 11,852
Default

Fanatics is definitely going full out to beef up their eventual ipo. I also think they bring back eTopps as a direct to consumer platform if/when the breaker model crashes.
finfangfan is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:47 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright © 2019, Blowout Cards Inc.