what do you think about getting rid of extra points

Cubs · 01-28-2014, 11:25 AM

joem1cha3l · 01-28-2014, 11:28 AM

I dont know about you guys, but after a TD is scored, I immediately flip the channel. With the NFL package, I'd rather watch the rams play the titans on their own 25 yard line than watch an extra point.

I'd love to see a play run for the extra point(s), rather than a kicker kick the extra point.

Cubs · 01-28-2014, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by joem1cha3l

I dont know about you guys, but after a TD is scored, I immediately flip the channel. With the NFL package, I'd rather watch the rams play the titans on their own 25 yard line than watch an extra point.

I'd love to see a play run for the extra point(s), rather than a kicker kick the extra point.

Yeah I'd rather see someone go for 2, we all do. Its more interesting, but is it unfair to kickers if you iliminate the extra point attempt

joem1cha3l · 01-28-2014, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cubs

Yeah I'd rather see someone go for 2, we all do. Its more interesting, but is it unfair to kickers if you iliminate the extra point attempt

Have you watched anything that Goodell has done in his reign of the NFL? How many "fair" things has he done?

MeteoriteGuy · 01-28-2014, 11:34 AM

I voted don't care, but it really depends on how the scoring, kicking change is made, if any is made at all.

A pretty good article from well noted writers representing both views.

NFL eliminating the extra point? Debating the pros and cons of change | The MMQB with Peter King

MLH · 01-28-2014, 11:35 AM

Either make it harder so its worth watching, or nix it.

Chaddie84 · 01-28-2014, 11:38 AM

I like the idea. It reminds me of playing NFL Blitz

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SteveO21 · 01-28-2014, 11:53 AM

I wouldn't be highly offended by it. There's no real question as to if the extra point will be missed or not. It's as close to a guarantee you can get when it comes to human performance on an athletic field.

"From the 1990 to 2011 seasons, 22 seasons in total, there were 23,684 extra point attempts during the regular season. Of these, a total of 23,325 were successfully made for a league wide extra point efficiency rating of 98.48%.

In total, only 359 times has a Kicker missed the point after touchdowns. Breaking this number down further, we found that 103 were blocked while kickers missed 256 straight out."

So ignoring the very minimal amount of blocked extra points and just focusing on the kicker just flat out missing it, there is a 1% chance that a kicker is going to miss an extra point.

Cubs · 01-28-2014, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by joem1cha3l

Have you watched anything that Goodell has done in his reign of the NFL? How many "fair" things has he done?

very true my friend

Cubs · 01-28-2014, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaddie84

I like the idea. It reminds me of playing NFL Blitz

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that was one hell of a game

Frankp2311 · 01-28-2014, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MLH

Either make it harder so its worth watching, or nix it.

They should have to kick from the 50 yard line. No defending the kick, just let the kicker set up and try a 60 yard PAT.

Cubs · 01-28-2014, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankp2311

They should have to kick from the 50 yard line. No defending the kick, just let the kicker set up and try a 60 yard PAT.

that would be interesting.....

jhand13 · 01-28-2014, 12:13 PM

If they keep extra points I feel that they need to back it up to at least the 30 yard line to make it more interesting.

thepuffingbilly · 01-28-2014, 12:24 PM

I don't think they should get rid of it, but it definitely needs to be changed. I'm in favor of moving it back to the 30 yard line.

legion624 · 01-28-2014, 12:28 PM

I think they were talking about making the TD 7 points unless you wanted to go for a conversion. If you made it it would be 8 points but if you missed it you only got 6 points. I swear I heard some talking head saying the NFL was discussing that.

Cubs · 01-28-2014, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by legion624

I think they were talking about making the TD 7 points unless you wanted to go for a conversion. If you made it it would be 8 points but if you missed it you only got 6 points. I swear I heard some talking head saying the NFL was discussing that.

Yeah thats what they are discussing right now

JHinGA09 · 01-28-2014, 12:58 PM

I vote for .5 points. You get .5 point if you kick a regular extra point. You get 1 point if you kick it from the 20 yard line. You get a 2 point conversion if you kick it from the 30; of course field goals would also be lessened to 2 points. Also if you elect to kick the extra point or 2 point conversion, your opponent gets to choose if you kick from the left, middle, or right of the field. I would also elect the idea of a 'no field goal zone,' that being within the red zone. If a team is in the red zone, they should be able to try to walk away with a TD, no field goal allowed once you enter the red zone.
That .5 point would really mess up Vegas!

Chaddie84 · 01-28-2014, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jhand13

If they keep extra points I feel that they need to back it up to at least the 30 yard line to make it more interesting.

They do this and I'm guessing the majority of teams will go for 2 at the 2.

cjdelaney3 · 01-28-2014, 01:04 PM

Back in 2006 (I think) on Christmas Eve I was in Denver for a Broncos/Bengals game with some serious playoff implications. Cincinnati scored with like 40 seconds left and the extra point would tie the game. They fubar'd the snap and Denver wins by 1.

I like the extra point. The 98.48% success rate is still not perfect.

chutneyfactory · 01-28-2014, 01:11 PM

Colts longsnapper Matt Overton makes a pretty good point about the remifications on special teams rosters.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports...s-nfl/4732253/

I was a longsnapper (among other positions) when I played. Obviously, they keep their job due to punting still being a part of the game. But this is a highly overlooked skill. Its not as easy as these guys make it look.

Which makes me wonder... Is the whole point of this to free up roster positions for "skill positions"? Which would give teams the potential to have more complex offensive sets. AKA the video game-ification of the NFL.

Cubs · 01-28-2014, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaddie84

They do this and I'm guessing the majority of teams will go for 2 at the 2.

well they would have to change the rule for the 2 point conversion as well

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Originally Posted by chutneyfactory

Colts longsnapper Matt Overton makes a pretty good point about the remifications on special teams rosters.

Colts' Matt Overton: Save the extra point

I was a longsnapper (among other positions) when I played. Obviously, they keep their job due to punting still being a part of the game. But this is a highly overlooked skill. Its not as easy as these guys make it look.

Which makes me wonder... Is the whole point of this to free up roster positions for "skill positions"? Which would give teams the potential to have more complex offensive sets. AKA the video game-ification of the NFL.

thats a really great tweet, outlines everything really well, everyone who thinks they should get rid of it, take a look at this, thanks for sharing

AdamMcDermott88 · 01-28-2014, 01:28 PM

I dislike it because the replacement ruling is rubbish. They need another idea. Goodell cited that his job was to maximize intense plays and minimize mundane plays. What he is forgetting is that the TV channels often take a commercial break between TDs and PATs. Then they take another commercial break after the PAT.

They may have a difficult time negotiating the PATs elimination.

addicted36 · 01-28-2014, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by legion624

I think they were talking about making the TD 7 points unless you wanted to go for a conversion. If you made it it would be 8 points but if you missed it you only got 6 points. I swear I heard some talking head saying the NFL was discussing that.

NFL teams are far too conservative to give them this option. I can not see a team risking 2 points ever unless they are behind. 2 points being either 6 points or 8 points. And even then how does this affect the Vegas betting lines? I honestly think they will keep it but move it back some to make it a FG try distance in the end

cadillac540 · 01-28-2014, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chutneyfactory

Colts longsnapper Matt Overton makes a pretty good point about the remifications on special teams rosters.

Colts' Matt Overton: Save the extra point

I was a longsnapper (among other positions) when I played. Obviously, they keep their job due to punting still being a part of the game. But this is a highly overlooked skill. Its not as easy as these guys make it look.

Which makes me wonder... Is the whole point of this to free up roster positions for "skill positions"? Which would give teams the potential to have more complex offensive sets. AKA the video game-ification of the NFL.

What does he want people to feel sorry for the guys that would get a small decrease in pay for making hundreds of thousands of dollars for snapping a football? LOL

Cubs · 01-28-2014, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by addicted36

NFL teams are far too conservative to give them this option. I can not see a team risking 2 points ever unless they are behind. 2 points being either 6 points or 8 points. And even then how does this affect the Vegas betting lines? I honestly think they will keep it but move it back some to make it a FG try distance in the end

That is what i feel like will happen in the end

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01-28-2014, 11:25 AM	#1
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MeteoriteGuy Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 4,827 MarkBostick	I voted don't care, but it really depends on how the scoring, kicking change is made, if any is made at all. A pretty good article from well noted writers representing both views. NFL eliminating the extra point? Debating the pros and cons of change \| The MMQB with Peter King __________________ Always looking for low numbered Tony Gonzalez cards.

01-28-2014, 11:38 AM	#7
Chaddie84 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 8,828 Chaddie84 Chaddie84	I like the idea. It reminds me of playing NFL Blitz . __________________ SKOL! Go Bison!

01-28-2014, 12:13 PM	#13
jhand13 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: North Dakota Posts: 811	If they keep extra points I feel that they need to back it up to at least the 30 yard line to make it more interesting. __________________ *Miami Dolphins* autograph collector Miami Marlins autograph collector

01-28-2014, 11:28 AM	#2
joem1cha3l Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Albany. NY Posts: 6,465	I dont know about you guys, but after a TD is scored, I immediately flip the channel. With the NFL package, I'd rather watch the rams play the titans on their own 25 yard line than watch an extra point. I'd love to see a play run for the extra point(s), rather than a kicker kick the extra point.

01-28-2014, 11:35 AM	#6
MLH Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 3,632	Either make it harder so its worth watching, or nix it.

01-28-2014, 11:53 AM	#8
SteveO21 Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: near the cards Posts: 10,810 vintagepacers Steve_O_21	I wouldn't be highly offended by it. There's no real question as to if the extra point will be missed or not. It's as close to a guarantee you can get when it comes to human performance on an athletic field. "From the 1990 to 2011 seasons, 22 seasons in total, there were 23,684 extra point attempts during the regular season. Of these, a total of 23,325 were successfully made for a league wide extra point efficiency rating of 98.48%. In total, only 359 times has a Kicker missed the point after touchdowns. Breaking this number down further, we found that 103 were blocked while kickers missed 256 straight out." So ignoring the very minimal amount of blocked extra points and just focusing on the kicker just flat out missing it, there is a 1% chance that a kicker is going to miss an extra point.

01-28-2014, 12:24 PM	#14
thepuffingbilly Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 516	I don't think they should get rid of it, but it definitely needs to be changed. I'm in favor of moving it back to the 30 yard line.

01-28-2014, 12:28 PM	#15
legion624 Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: VA Posts: 1,931	I think they were talking about making the TD 7 points unless you wanted to go for a conversion. If you made it it would be 8 points but if you missed it you only got 6 points. I swear I heard some talking head saying the NFL was discussing that.

01-28-2014, 12:58 PM	#17
JHinGA09 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 4,927	I vote for .5 points. You get .5 point if you kick a regular extra point. You get 1 point if you kick it from the 20 yard line. You get a 2 point conversion if you kick it from the 30; of course field goals would also be lessened to 2 points. Also if you elect to kick the extra point or 2 point conversion, your opponent gets to choose if you kick from the left, middle, or right of the field. I would also elect the idea of a 'no field goal zone,' that being within the red zone. If a team is in the red zone, they should be able to try to walk away with a TD, no field goal allowed once you enter the red zone. That .5 point would really mess up Vegas! __________________ *Set Needs: 2011 R&S Longevity Black Prime, 2010 Certified Shirt Off My Back Prime*, Laundry Tags, Matt Ryan, Jamaal Charles http://s626.photobucket.com/albums/tt344/JHnGA09/ http://sportscardalbum.com/u/jhinga09

01-28-2014, 01:04 PM	#19
cjdelaney3 Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Midwest Posts: 8,749	Back in 2006 (I think) on Christmas Eve I was in Denver for a Broncos/Bengals game with some serious playoff implications. Cincinnati scored with like 40 seconds left and the extra point would tie the game. They fubar'd the snap and Denver wins by 1. I like the extra point. The 98.48% success rate is still not perfect. __________________ Tnarg said ya’ll are soft so please ship at your earliest convenience.

01-28-2014, 01:11 PM	#20
chutneyfactory Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,976 thechutneyfactory	Colts longsnapper Matt Overton makes a pretty good point about the remifications on special teams rosters. http://www.indystar.com/story/sports...s-nfl/4732253/ I was a longsnapper (among other positions) when I played. Obviously, they keep their job due to punting still being a part of the game. But this is a highly overlooked skill. Its not as easy as these guys make it look. Which makes me wonder... Is the whole point of this to free up roster positions for "skill positions"? Which would give teams the potential to have more complex offensive sets. AKA the video game-ification of the NFL. __________________ Collecting: Indianapolis Colts

01-28-2014, 01:28 PM	#22
AdamMcDermott88 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: 'Merica Posts: 1,430 AdamMcDermott88	I dislike it because the replacement ruling is rubbish. They need another idea. Goodell cited that his job was to maximize intense plays and minimize mundane plays. What he is forgetting is that the TV channels often take a commercial break between TDs and PATs. Then they take another commercial break after the PAT. They may have a difficult time negotiating the PATs elimination. __________________ I like to pay top dollar for pieces of paper.