New to slabs, how do you get scratches out of them?

[crazy4kinsler]

July 11 Update:
Just got an update from Paypal that they're still reviewing the case and will make a decision. Seems like a little much when the picture clearly shows the scratch. I'm almost tempted to just cancel the case, eat the card and the money and resell as a cracked slab. Not sure what else to do. Don't know this could be any more obvious.


Original Post:
Need help from the group. Sorry for the long read, but I'm a little frustrated.

I'm just getting into graded cards, and I just got one in the mail that was scratched. It was packaged great, and it wasn't damaged in transit. I double checked the picture the seller sent after I got it, and I could barely see a scratch (I think it was due to the way it was pictured).

So, I reached out to the seller to see about sending it back and getting a refund. This seller was very hard to deal with originally, and I this was just the topping on the cake (he reached out on one of my buying posts with this card, I asked a price and he sent me a price. I said I was good with that, and he sent his paypal info. After I paid, he asked if I wanted it shipped. I said yes, and he said oh it'll be extra to ship. I told him I thought the original price included shipping, he said no that's now how it works when he gives out pricing, so I sent a little more money).

Fast forward, and I reach out to him after getting the card. He said he shouldn't be held responsible because he didn't notice the scratch. He said it's my fault because I didn't notice it, and he denied the return. I even went back and clicked on the picture. It was small, and I couldn't enlarge it in my imaging software. Since I paid G&S, I went to Paypal and opened a case. He immediately escalated it to the next step and said he's not refunding. So it looks like I'm going to be forced to just keep the card.

So here's my question: what's the best way to get scratches out of a PSA slab? I believe I can send it back to PSA for a reslab, but I'm thinking that will cost more than the card itself costs. So I'm looking for ideas/help. I've posted a picture to show off the scratch. Thanks.

[hermanotarjeta]

All you can do is reslab it with PSA.

You can’t fix the scratch.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Never tried it, but I assume a polishiing compound like you would use on your headlights would work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eNWw1q3Q_4

[JeffG1954]

Name and shame the seller.

[glen87]

Originally Posted by crazy4kinsler

Need help from the group. Sorry for the long read, but I'm a little frustrated.

I'm just getting into graded cards, and I just got one in the mail that was scratched. It was packaged great, and it wasn't damaged in transit. I double checked the picture the seller sent after I got it, and I could barely see a scratch (I think it was due to the way it was pictured).

So, I reached out to the seller to see about sending it back and getting a refund. This seller was very hard to deal with originally, and I this was just the topping on the cake (he reached out on one of my buying posts with this card, I asked a price and he sent me a price. I said I was good with that, and he sent his paypal info. After I paid, he asked if I wanted it shipped. I said yes, and he said oh it'll be extra to ship. I told him I thought the original price included shipping, he said no that's now how it works when he gives out pricing, so I sent a little more money).

Fast forward, and I reach out to him after getting the card. He said he shouldn't be held responsible because he didn't notice the scratch. He said it's my fault because I didn't notice it, and he denied the return. I even went back and clicked on the picture. It was small, and I couldn't enlarge it in my imaging software. Since I paid G&S, I went to Paypal and opened a case. He immediately escalated it to the next step and said he's not refunding. So it looks like I'm going to be forced to just keep the card.

So here's my question: what's the best way to get scratches out of a PSA slab? I believe I can send it back to PSA for a reslab, but I'm thinking that will cost more than the card itself costs. So I'm looking for ideas/help. I've posted a picture to show off the scratch. Thanks.

definitely name the seller

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by JeffG1954

Name and shame the seller.

Originally Posted by glen87

definitely name the seller

Yes, especially because it sounds like a deal that happened on BO.

[ngs428]

If this isn’t a deep scratch PlastX will take it out no issue. Done it many times.

https://www.meguiars.com/automotive/...0-10-oz-liquid

[vwnut13]

Easy solution: Turn around and run, don't buy slabs.

[crazy4kinsler]

I'm getting older (50 this summer), so I'm starting to think about what my wife will face when I'm gone. No kiddos to pass this collection down to, so I want to make it as easy as possible for her. Instead of having 250k cards, I'm trying to cut it down to more quality. Plus, I'm moving out of modern and into vintage. Working on a Nolan Ryan PSA graded run since he's my favorite all time player. Other than that, going for HOFers from 60s and earlier. So that's why I'm moving to graded.

Originally Posted by vwnut13

Easy solution: Turn around and run, don't buy slabs.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by crazy4kinsler

I'm getting older (50 this summer), so I'm starting to think about what my wife will face when I'm gone. No kiddos to pass this collection down to, so I want to make it as easy as possible for her. Instead of having 250k cards, I'm trying to cut it down to more quality. Plus, I'm moving out of modern and into vintage. Working on a Nolan Ryan PSA graded run since he's my favorite all time player. Other than that, going for HOFers from 60s and earlier. So that's why I'm moving to graded.

Ignore him

You can absolutely buff it out per the above recommendations

[Rooftop]

Probably could’ve gotten an sgc 8.5 cheaper

[crazy4kinsler]

I’m doing a PSA run of Ryan for the registry. Plus I hear SGC may be going out of business. So don’t want to be stuck with a bunch of those slabs if that happens (that’s why I’ve been trying, unsuccessfully, to move my SGC slabs).

Originally Posted by Rooftop

Probably could’ve gotten an sgc 8.5 cheaper

[hammertime]

Originally Posted by ngs428

If this isn’t a deep scratch PlastX will take it out no issue. Done it many times.

https://www.meguiars.com/automotive/...0-10-oz-liquid

Yep this works great for shallow marks.

[Big35Hurt]

Originally Posted by Rooftop

Probably could’ve gotten an sgc 8.5 cheaper

SGC is fine but their damn slabs are too bulky like BGC. Just personal preference on my end where I will go with PSA over those two.

[crazy4kinsler]

I've heard they may stop grading. I got a text from my LCS yesterday that they were no longer submitting to SGC effective immediately. That's a surprise because they send off subs at least 2x a week. So if they're stopping, then there must be something coming down the pipe.

I do love the look of the slabs, however, I only collect vintage. And I know SGC doesn't sell for anywhere close to PSA. But I just love the look of the slabs on some old 50s-60s cards.

Originally Posted by Big35Hurt

SGC is fine but their damn slabs are too bulky like BGC. Just personal preference on my end where I will go with PSA over those two.

[livfreely]

Originally Posted by crazy4kinsler

I've heard they may stop grading. I got a text from my LCS yesterday that they were no longer submitting to SGC effective immediately. That's a surprise because they send off subs at least 2x a week. So if they're stopping, then there must be something coming down the pipe.

I do love the look of the slabs, however, I only collect vintage. And I know SGC doesn't sell for anywhere close to PSA. But I just love the look of the slabs on some old 50s-60s cards.

Didn’t PSA buy them out? Probably stopping to consolidate with PSA.


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[ScooterD]

Honest question - does the condition of the case of a graded card impact the resell value?

Isn’t that like grading (or degrading) the slab?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by crazy4kinsler

I've heard they may stop grading. I got a text from my LCS yesterday that they were no longer submitting to SGC effective immediately. That's a surprise because they send off subs at least 2x a week. So if they're stopping, then there must be something coming down the pipe.

I do love the look of the slabs, however, I only collect vintage. And I know SGC doesn't sell for anywhere close to PSA. But I just love the look of the slabs on some old 50s-60s cards.

They didin't stop grading. They announced they will no longer give bulk submitters a discount. Which is why your LCS is likely not going to take bulk submissions anymore. There's no money in it. They have to submit at the same prices as you can do on your own.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

Honest question - does the condition of the case of a graded card impact the resell value?

Isn’t that like grading (or degrading) the slab?

Most definitely.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

Honest question - does the condition of the case of a graded card impact the resell value?

Isn’t that like grading (or degrading) the slab?

It’s just annoying to have that blemish on there. Assuming the same card and same grade, would you rather have a slab with or without scratches on it?

[crazy4kinsler]

For the record, we're still waiting on Paypal. I opened the case late on June 10, he escalated it on June 11 because he thinks he's not at fault since he didn't see the scratch. And PP said they'd make a decision by June 21. So we shall see.

What upsets me more was his way of doing things by giving me a price, I accepting the price, getting his paypal and paying then him saying that was just for the card and didn't include shipping and asking me to pay more. That's what was more frustrating. Now, in the PP case, I only did the first payment. So I'll lose out even more money becuase I'm sure he won't pay back the extra I paid for shipping (I guess technically I could open a case on that payment too).

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by livfreely

Didn’t PSA buy them out? Probably stopping to consolidate with PSA.


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Collectors Universe did. Not PSA. So CU owns both

But SGC will wind down, in some capacity, at some point with PSA being king

They either merge or SGC becomes a very 2nd or 3rd tier sub

Like buying from Old Navy instead of Banana Republic (same parent company owns both)

You don’t need them as competitors if you own both. That’s just bad marketing and strategy

[Bosoxfan5990]

Can we get a seller name yet or are we just glossing over that still?

[crazy4kinsler]

It's not on here. That's why I haven't given it.

Also, PP hasn't ruled in my favor or his. So I'm not sure he's done anything wrong. Bad business practices? Maybe. But nothing wrong yet.

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Can we get a seller name yet or are we just glossing over that still?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Collectors Universe did. Not PSA. So CU owns both

But SGC will wind down, in some capacity, at some point with PSA being king

They either merge or SGC becomes a very 2nd or 3rd tier sub

Like buying from Old Navy instead of Banana Republic (same parent company owns both)

You don’t need them as competitors if you own both. That’s just bad marketing and strategy

It actually makes perfect sense to have two top brands in the industry, and it's something done all the time in the business world (think Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep, or Luvs/Pampers). Owning two competing brands helps keep marketshare in the company, and prevents lower tier competitors from climbing the ladder. If Collectors doesn't keep SGC strong, a good portion of that marketshare will go to CGC. A company always wants to gain marketshare, and certainly never lose it. Keeping SGC makes the best business sense. There is a reason Proctor and Gamble owns basically every brand in its space, or car manufacturers all have several brands. One doesn't need to be a "bargain" brand for it to work. In fact, the better the second brand, the more it keeps competitors as the low tier choice. SGC currently has a large marketshare in the vintage space. They are far from a second tier player there. Losing that would be a bad move.