Sports Card Podcasts

mrb842 · 08-20-2023, 01:52 PM

Ahead of the national I tried listening to a bunch of them, the "bigger influencer ones", the lcs ones, the sort of mainstream media ones like the ringer. I know we're not talking about 1990s era SNL or SportsCenter or go down the line entertaining content, but it was rougher than I expected.
-They are incredibly redundant. Some of them basically say the exact same thing every single time. "The hobby is in great shape""The market is correcting""Buy what you love""I hate what influencers are doing to the hobby (even though I love when they come into my shop and pump their brands and my lcs)."
-They don't tell you anything about trends, products, cool customer pickups, cool buys, the arts and sciences of the hobby, running a shop etc. Basically the stuff you're tuning into listen to them talk about.
-By far the best parts are the questions that come from customers/listeners/viewers. These actually tell you things about what others are thinking and force them to talk about the hobby. Sort of the reverse of sports talk radio where the caller questions are the worst. I find the questions really good and insightful and can confirm or dissuade thoughts I have.
-They are super sensitive about "giving away business intel and damaging relationships". It's like listening to a Belichick news conference at times. I learn more from anonymous comments here where I guess they're not worried about big Fanatics or someone coming after them.
-They add filler unrelated to the hobby or point of the podcast. 10 minutes on your fantasy baseball team. I'll pass.
-Some of them have fantastic interview questions and guests which do really well. The format the canadian guy has is excellent and I've been impressed that a lot of the big people make themselves available for podcasts and ig shows that only get a few thousand views and listens.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 08-20-2023, 02:04 PM

I tried listening to Sportscard Nonsense for a few months but gave up. They don’t like baseball and the co-host barely knows anything about sports or cards.

OhioLawyerF5 · 08-20-2023, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mrb842

Ahead of the national I tried listening to a bunch of them, the "bigger influencer ones", the lcs ones, the sort of mainstream media ones like the ringer. I know we're not talking about 1990s era SNL or SportsCenter or go down the line entertaining content, but it was rougher than I expected.

-They are incredibly redundant. Some of them basically say the exact same thing every single time. "The hobby is in great shape""The market is correcting""Buy what you love""I hate what influencers are doing to the hobby (even though I love when they come into my shop and pump their brands and my lcs)."

-They don't tell you anything about trends, products, cool customer pickups, cool buys, the arts and sciences of the hobby, running a shop etc. Basically the stuff you're tuning into listen to them talk about.

-By far the best parts are the questions that come from customers/listeners/viewers. These actually tell you things about what others are thinking and force them to talk about the hobby. Sort of the reverse of sports talk radio where the caller questions are the worst. I find the questions really good and insightful and can confirm or dissuade thoughts I have.

-They are super sensitive about "giving away business intel and damaging relationships". It's like listening to a Belichick news conference at times. I learn more from anonymous comments here where I guess they're not worried about big Fanatics or someone coming after them.

-They add filler unrelated to the hobby or point of the podcast. 10 minutes on your fantasy baseball team. I'll pass.

-Some of them have fantastic interview questions and guests which do really well. The format the canadian guy has is excellent and I've been impressed that a lot of the big people make themselves available for podcasts and ig shows that only get a few thousand views and listens.

This is what happens in this day of user created content. When the media consumption of the day is that of people who aren't professional entertainment producers, the quality goes down. You can't expect top notch content from Joe Schmo with no professional training.

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SupermanBrandon · 08-20-2023, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

This is what happens in this day of user created content. When the media consumption of the day is that of people who aren't professional entertainment producers, the quality goes down. You can't expect top notch content from Joe Schmo with no professional training.

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Bingo. You used to have to go to school...be taught the business, worked in the field, and then hoped to get a shot. Today, if you have an internet connection you can be an "influencer, podcaster, media member".

KhalDrogo · 08-20-2023, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

I tried listening to Sportscard Nonsense for a few months but gave up. They don’t like baseball and the co-host barely knows anything about sports or cards.

You mean the co-hosts?

Twalk1975 · 08-20-2023, 02:32 PM

I'm wary of anyone who is both a podcaster and a breaker. Can they really be expected to say anything other than "I think this is a great product with a great rookie class?"

MiamiMarlinsFan · 08-20-2023, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

You mean the co-hosts?

I guess. The main guy seems to like football…?

PLB9eight · 08-20-2023, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

You mean the co-hosts?

Pretty much this. It doesn’t take long to figure out Mike doesn’t know anywhere near what he wants the listeners to believe he knows. At least Jesse has seemed to make some attempt to learn a few things.

KhalDrogo · 08-20-2023, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PLB9eight

Pretty much this. It doesn’t take long to figure out Mike doesn’t know anywhere near what he wants the listeners to believe he knows. At least Jesse has seemed to make some attempt to learn a few things.

Mike was a breaker who was in the right place at the right time. He is not knowledgeable about the hobby or sports. How Simmons put the show in his hands is beyond me.

PLB9eight · 08-20-2023, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Mike was a breaker who was in the right place at the right time. He is not knowledgeable about the hobby or sports. How Simmons put the show in his hands is beyond me.

Correct. I listen sometimes just to chuckle.

Chris P · 08-20-2023, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PLB9eight

Correct. I listen sometimes just to chuckle.

Same..I don't take that show seriously at all. Mike is super biased with every product because he's a breaker and they take advantage of their naive clueless listener base. And the sarcastic jerk schtick is beyond played out

jduds · 08-20-2023, 04:20 PM

I like this one as it has a good bit of constructive criticism instead of just "I don't like them."
I love it myself and find the inane non-sports card banter my favorite part of the show. I do enjoy the mailbag section as well. I think part of the disconnect you might have with SCN and some of the bigger shows is that they pitch everything to be broadly understood without much or any previous hobby knowledge. It makes the show much more inclusive, but there are probably a lot on the boards that would prefer a podcast designed for the more veteran collectors. Another issue is that the bigger podcasts all actively try to avoid things like their "Straight Cash Homie" segment since the market crashed. The shows might be stressing broader points about the market to avoid ever trying to look like they are giving advice. It's a good impulse, but it probably kills some potentially good discussions.
Finally, I also think the show is very good at responding to criticism and will take constructive complaints into account. I've seen them respond well to criticism on the SCN Facebook group and also address the issues on the show.
Full disclosure, I write for the SCN Newsletter (and the Card Shop Live one) but have no involvement with the show or the hosts. I started writing for the newsletter because I loved the podcast. I didn't start liking the podcast just because I write for the newsletter.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 08-20-2023, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Mike was a breaker who was in the right place at the right time. He is not knowledgeable about the hobby or sports. How Simmons put the show in his hands is beyond me.

He’s a Boston guy and Simmons loves surrounding himself with Boston Yes-Men. Cousin Sal is really the only person allowed to call Simmons out on his $#!t.

SupermanBrandon · 08-20-2023, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

He’s a Boston guy and Simmons loves surrounding himself with Boston Yes-Men. Cousin Sal is really the only person allowed to call Simmons out on his $#!t.

Mike screams YES-Men

MiamiMarlinsFan · 08-20-2023, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jduds

I like this one as it has a good bit of constructive criticism instead of just "I don't like them."
I love it myself and find the inane non-sports card banter my favorite part of the show. I do enjoy the mailbag section as well. I think part of the disconnect you might have with SCN and some of the bigger shows is that they pitch everything to be broadly understood without much or any previous hobby knowledge. It makes the show much more inclusive, but there are probably a lot on the boards that would prefer a podcast designed for the more veteran collectors. Another issue is that the bigger podcasts all actively try to avoid things like their "Straight Cash Homie" segment since the market crashed. The shows might be stressing broader points about the market to avoid ever trying to look like they are giving advice. It's a good impulse, but it probably kills some potentially good discussions.
Finally, I also think the show is very good at responding to criticism and will take constructive complaints into account. I've seen them respond well to criticism on the SCN Facebook group and also address the issues on the show.
Full disclosure, I write for the SCN Newsletter (and the Card Shop Live one) but have no involvement with the show or the hosts. I started writing for the newsletter because I loved the podcast. I didn't start liking the podcast just because I write for the newsletter.

Very cool! I don’t hate the show, I just found myself with no interest after a while. I realized I didn’t really want any card podcast in my life. I collect comic books too, but only listen to comic book Pods that discuss the stories/art rather than the market.

jduds · 08-20-2023, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

Very cool! I don’t hate the show, I just found myself with no interest after a while. I realized I didn’t really want any card podcast in my life. I collect comic books too, but only listen to comic book Pods that discuss the stories/art rather than the market.

I do the same with comics. I only listen to iFanboy pretty much, but even that has dwindled to just once a month. I tend to choose one podcast for each of my interests and just shift the amount I listen to based on which hobby is grabbing my interest more at the time. When my local comic store(s) died, my interest dropped hard, and now that I have a new one, comics are becoming a thing for me again.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 08-20-2023, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jduds

I do the same with comics. I only listen to iFanboy pretty much, but even that has dwindled to just once a month. I tend to choose one podcast for each of my interests and just shift the amount I listen to based on which hobby is grabbing my interest more at the time. When my local comic store(s) died, my interest dropped hard, and now that I have a new one, comics are becoming a thing for me again.

Loooooooong time iFanboy listener. Maybe going on 12 years now with that pod? The Felix Comic Art podcast is also good.

Hail2TheVictors · 08-20-2023, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Bingo. You used to have to go to school...be taught the business, worked in the field, and then hoped to get a shot. Today, if you have an internet connection you can be an "influencer, podcaster, media member".

Yep. And look at the guys who are "notable" in terms of social presence. They all have been doing it for quite a while. Most offer little to nothing of substance, but they've just simply been doing videos for so long that they've built a following.

CC2 comes to mind first. The formula is somewhat simple. Make videos, put lots of emojis in the title...do videos consistently, and.....score. I've got a regular job and cards are a fun hobby - I know more about almost every aspect of cards than CC2.

Moral of the story - if you jumped into doing videos/podcasts/whatever 3-4+ years ago, and stayed consistent, you're likely an "influencer" right now. No matter if you provide any value.

Chris P · 08-20-2023, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

Yep. And look at the guys who are "notable" in terms of social presence. They all have been doing it for quite a while. Most offer little to nothing of substance, but they've just simply been doing videos for so long that they've built a following.

CC2 comes to mind first. The formula is somewhat simple. Make videos, put lots of emojis in the title...do videos consistently, and.....score. I've got a regular job and cards are a fun hobby - I know more about almost every aspect of cards than CC2.

Moral of the story - if you jumped into doing videos/podcasts/whatever 3-4+ years ago, and stayed consistent, you're likely an "influencer" right now. No matter if you provide any value.

Don't forget to have the ridiculous looking "shock face" thumbnails for your vids as well!

Scottish Punk · 08-20-2023, 05:29 PM

I don't listen to podcasts but I do go down YouTube rabbit holes. Most of the card collecting YouTube videos aren't very informative. It makes sense that those that put on consistent content would build a following. Once you learn the algorithm, you can get your videos to the top. Consistent crappy videos better than fewer good videos, click bait title, dumb emoji thumbnail,etc.

I assume it takes a crap ton less time to jump on a mic and deliver some hot takes rather than doing some research and backing up your position.

Giroux · 08-20-2023, 05:52 PM

I enjoy Sports Cards Nonsense. I listen for entertainment and Mike is entertaining. Reminds me of an old school sports radio guy.

Richm · 08-20-2023, 06:16 PM

I honestly dont think that any sports card podcast will get into the gritty of the hobby, they all want to make money. And if they tell how they are making moves in the markets, then their share decreases. I just use them to get ideas of how things are moving and try and do my own homework

PLB9eight · 08-20-2023, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jduds

I like this one as it has a good bit of constructive criticism instead of just "I don't like them."
I love it myself and find the inane non-sports card banter my favorite part of the show. I do enjoy the mailbag section as well. I think part of the disconnect you might have with SCN and some of the bigger shows is that they pitch everything to be broadly understood without much or any previous hobby knowledge. It makes the show much more inclusive, but there are probably a lot on the boards that would prefer a podcast designed for the more veteran collectors. Another issue is that the bigger podcasts all actively try to avoid things like their "Straight Cash Homie" segment since the market crashed. The shows might be stressing broader points about the market to avoid ever trying to look like they are giving advice. It's a good impulse, but it probably kills some potentially good discussions.
Finally, I also think the show is very good at responding to criticism and will take constructive complaints into account. I've seen them respond well to criticism on the SCN Facebook group and also address the issues on the show.
Full disclosure, I write for the SCN Newsletter (and the Card Shop Live one) but have no involvement with the show or the hosts. I started writing for the newsletter because I loved the podcast. I didn't start liking the podcast just because I write for the newsletter.

No my issue is they don’t know sports or cards.

PLB9eight · 08-20-2023, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris P

Don't forget to have the ridiculous looking "shock face" thumbnails for your vids as well!

Can’t forget that. I’ll be glad when that trend is over. Only thing I’ll give CC2 is that at least he has an actual store. Otherwise the chosen one status he gets and basically bullying people into deals because they’re on camera gets old. At least that’s how it comes across to me.

Chris P · 08-20-2023, 06:31 PM

If I'm going to listen to podcasts I want to listen to those with more of a collector vibe that doesn't lean much into the whole investor aspect of the hobby. That's why wax museum podcast is my favorite but it's very basketball oriented which is right up my wheelhouse but might not be for others.

08-20-2023, 01:52 PM	#1
mrb842 Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: midwest Posts: 1,692	Sports Card Podcasts Ahead of the national I tried listening to a bunch of them, the "bigger influencer ones", the lcs ones, the sort of mainstream media ones like the ringer. I know we're not talking about 1990s era SNL or SportsCenter or go down the line entertaining content, but it was rougher than I expected. -They are incredibly redundant. Some of them basically say the exact same thing every single time. "The hobby is in great shape""The market is correcting""Buy what you love""I hate what influencers are doing to the hobby (even though I love when they come into my shop and pump their brands and my lcs)." -They don't tell you anything about trends, products, cool customer pickups, cool buys, the arts and sciences of the hobby, running a shop etc. Basically the stuff you're tuning into listen to them talk about. -By far the best parts are the questions that come from customers/listeners/viewers. These actually tell you things about what others are thinking and force them to talk about the hobby. Sort of the reverse of sports talk radio where the caller questions are the worst. I find the questions really good and insightful and can confirm or dissuade thoughts I have. -They are super sensitive about "giving away business intel and damaging relationships". It's like listening to a Belichick news conference at times. I learn more from anonymous comments here where I guess they're not worried about big Fanatics or someone coming after them. -They add filler unrelated to the hobby or point of the podcast. 10 minutes on your fantasy baseball team. I'll pass. -Some of them have fantastic interview questions and guests which do really well. The format the canadian guy has is excellent and I've been impressed that a lot of the big people make themselves available for podcasts and ig shows that only get a few thousand views and listens.

08-20-2023, 02:04 PM	#2
MiamiMarlinsFan Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Florida Posts: 13,672	I tried listening to Sportscard Nonsense for a few months but gave up. They don’t like baseball and the co-host barely knows anything about sports or cards.

08-20-2023, 02:32 PM	#6
Twalk1975 Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: Phoenix Posts: 986	I'm wary of anyone who is both a podcaster and a breaker. Can they really be expected to say anything other than "I think this is a great product with a great rookie class?"

08-20-2023, 04:20 PM	#12
jduds Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 3,810 chilaw57	I like this one as it has a good bit of constructive criticism instead of just "I don't like them." I love it myself and find the inane non-sports card banter my favorite part of the show. I do enjoy the mailbag section as well. I think part of the disconnect you might have with SCN and some of the bigger shows is that they pitch everything to be broadly understood without much or any previous hobby knowledge. It makes the show much more inclusive, but there are probably a lot on the boards that would prefer a podcast designed for the more veteran collectors. Another issue is that the bigger podcasts all actively try to avoid things like their "Straight Cash Homie" segment since the market crashed. The shows might be stressing broader points about the market to avoid ever trying to look like they are giving advice. It's a good impulse, but it probably kills some potentially good discussions. Finally, I also think the show is very good at responding to criticism and will take constructive complaints into account. I've seen them respond well to criticism on the SCN Facebook group and also address the issues on the show. Full disclosure, I write for the SCN Newsletter (and the Card Shop Live one) but have no involvement with the show or the hosts. I started writing for the newsletter because I loved the podcast. I didn't start liking the podcast just because I write for the newsletter.

08-20-2023, 05:29 PM	#20
Scottish Punk Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 9,822 scottishpunk	I don't listen to podcasts but I do go down YouTube rabbit holes. Most of the card collecting YouTube videos aren't very informative. It makes sense that those that put on consistent content would build a following. Once you learn the algorithm, you can get your videos to the top. Consistent crappy videos better than fewer good videos, click bait title, dumb emoji thumbnail,etc. I assume it takes a crap ton less time to jump on a mic and deliver some hot takes rather than doing some research and backing up your position.

08-20-2023, 05:52 PM	#21
Giroux Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: USA Posts: 4,891 cardsgoingup	I enjoy Sports Cards Nonsense. I listen for entertainment and Mike is entertaining. Reminds me of an old school sports radio guy.

08-20-2023, 06:16 PM	#22
Richm Member Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: Tennessee Posts: 79 Tnsportscardcollector Ebucs1604	I honestly dont think that any sports card podcast will get into the gritty of the hobby, they all want to make money. And if they tell how they are making moves in the markets, then their share decreases. I just use them to get ideas of how things are moving and try and do my own homework

08-20-2023, 06:31 PM	#25
Chris P Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 14,867	If I'm going to listen to podcasts I want to listen to those with more of a collector vibe that doesn't lean much into the whole investor aspect of the hobby. That's why wax museum podcast is my favorite but it's very basketball oriented which is right up my wheelhouse but might not be for others.