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Old 07-14-2023, 08:11 AM   #1
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Default 2018 Jordan Atomic Refractor Fake??

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Old 07-14-2023, 08:28 AM   #2
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One is definitely not like the others but I have not studied these enough to be certain. That said, in a quick glance at listings on Ebay, the ones shown that are not PSA all have something I don't see on ones listed on Ebay.
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Old 07-14-2023, 08:39 AM   #3
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Multiple listed atomics on ebay have the A also not filled in. Cant imagine those are all fakes because of that...could be variation. (edit: post above was edited).

As for this one...not sure what Im looking for tbh, dont know much about this set. Does the atomic pattern not scan on acetates? Is it because the tinge of the background looking more like the base? How is it known it's the base card misstamped?
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Old 07-14-2023, 08:47 AM   #4
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Multiple listed atomics on ebay have the A also not filled in. Cant imagine those are all fakes because of that...could be variation. (edit: post above was edited).

As for this one...not sure what Im looking for tbh, dont know much about this set. Does the atomic pattern not scan on acetates? Is it because the tinge of the background looking more like the base? How is it known it's the base card misstamped?
Yeah, edited because I didn't want to call out specifically what I was seeing.
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Old 07-14-2023, 08:59 AM   #5
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IMO, Looks like the PSA has the same finish pattern on the front as the base and the back “Atomic Refractor” print is very light, making it look like it was applied after.


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Old 07-14-2023, 09:05 AM   #6
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IMO, Looks like the PSA has the same finish pattern on the front as the base and the back “Atomic Refractor” print is very light, making it look like it was applied after.


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Saw that too about the light atomic refractor. A brief search on ebay, others look dark like the non-PSAs, but I didnt look much.
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Old 07-14-2023, 11:15 AM   #7
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That's a bad scan. The atomic refractor design is harder to see for that insert parallel set, so at the very least, whoever took the picture should at least shine a light through it.
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Old 07-14-2023, 11:53 AM   #8
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It’s possible the atomic pattern doesn’t come through on scan. After all the other non-PSA ones also look like you can’t see the atomic pattern either….but it’s almost more of a completely see-through white compared to the PSA.

Judging by eBay listings, a card like this really should have its photo be a picture, not a scan. There is a difference in how each takes up light like this apparently. Also when at an angle you can really see the pattern.
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Old 07-14-2023, 02:24 PM   #9
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If you take a look at the IG post, the owner (the_jordan_exchange) also posted a comparison video of the four scanned cards.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CunwQYpM...RlODBiNWFlZA==

Like the PSA images and photos from the two prior ebay listings, there isn't a noticeable atomic pattern on this specific card.
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Old 07-14-2023, 07:41 PM   #10
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Never cared for this set for this reason. Atomic design isn't atomic-y enough.
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Old 07-14-2023, 08:23 PM   #11
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1996 Michael Jordan BS6 Bowman’s Best -Atomic Refractor PSA 8 cert# 72189956




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Old 07-14-2023, 08:28 PM   #12
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Never cared for this set for this reason. Atomic design isn't atomic-y enough.
It’s because they only applied it to the back surface.

Another example of this on another acetate set is the Eyes of the Game refractors from TSC Chrome.
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Old 07-15-2023, 04:21 PM   #13
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If you take a look at the IG post, the owner (the_jordan_exchange) also posted a comparison video of the four scanned cards.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CunwQYpM...RlODBiNWFlZA==

Like the PSA images and photos from the two prior ebay listings, there isn't a noticeable atomic pattern on this specific card.
Yeah, I would imagine its the refractor or a complete fake as it is different than the base card in the video too.
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