First Buzz: 2022-23 Panini Prizm Premier League soccer cards

BlowoutBuzz · 01-13-2023, 10:36 AM

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YayNJ · 01-13-2023, 10:39 AM

the irony of having a Pulisic "Instant Impact" and a Sancho "Fireworks"

yiguiri2002 · 01-13-2023, 11:25 AM

Looks like they printed the hell out of this. Again. Over 1100 numbered parallels.

Wonder how much this will be out of the gate. Last year's Hobby is already at 130 and keeps falling.

mfw13 · 01-13-2023, 11:40 AM

I'll probably buy some singles of Newcastle and US players, but given that this will probably release at $250/box or higher, I wouldn't dream of buying any wax.....

YayNJ · 01-13-2023, 11:43 AM

Lets keep the malaise going. With a bit of effort we can get this to $60 a box in a few years where it belongs.

YayNJ · 01-13-2023, 05:07 PM

Why do they insist on having such crap colours for the more desirable parallels? it's so stupid.

PARALLEL: 2022-23 Panini Prizm Premier League - Purple Ice Prizm #/49
PARALLEL: 2022-23 Panini Prizm Premier League - Orange Prizm #/25
PARALLEL: 2022-23 Panini Prizm Premier League - Green Prizm #/5

It makes it almost impossible to colour match for a start.

tomingo0711 · 03-16-2023, 08:32 AM

FOTL Dutch Auction today. From Panini's website
Look for a 1 blue Shimmer autograph, 1 Prizm blue Shimmer #'d/8, 4 base silver Prizms, 5 numbered base Prizms, 7 additional base Prizm, and 6 inserts per box, on average!

Floor is $250, how close does it get to the floor?

mikee1186 · 03-16-2023, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tomingo0711

FOTL Dutch Auction today. From Panini's website
Look for a 1 blue Shimmer autograph, 1 Prizm blue Shimmer #'d/8, 4 base silver Prizms, 5 numbered base Prizms, 7 additional base Prizm, and 6 inserts per box, on average!

Floor is $250, how close does it get to the floor?

Ballpark, ends at $350.

fadster · 03-16-2023, 09:42 AM

Won't be allowed to go far below $300 or so as that's where pre-orders are at with the big retailers for regular hobby

phil · 03-16-2023, 09:53 AM

Recent ebay sales for 20 & 21 FOTL all in the $225-300 range and can buy 2021 Hobby for $125 or less. Possible lack of confidence from the Big 3 & breakers might let this drop closer to the floor than people are guessing.

yiguiri2002 · 03-16-2023, 10:13 AM

Some breakers have said they are buying at 300. I don't think it gets under that.

phil · 03-16-2023, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

Some breakers have said they are buying at 300. I don't think it gets under that.

FWIW there's $312.50 then $291.67

I'd be in at the floor for a few but otherwise not likely to be worth the trouble.

Peachcardsatl · 03-16-2023, 10:49 AM

Has anyone had the opportunity to look through the checklist for any notable rookies?

YayNJ · 03-16-2023, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Peachcardsatl

Has anyone had the opportunity to look through the checklist for any notable rookies?

I've not seen it, but I mean, it's likely to be almost a carbon copy of everything else... it's not that great of a year, and they have all already got cards.

Garnatcho
Brenan Johnson
Romeo Lavia
Julian Alvarez

and then you have the likes of Bajcetic and Rico Lewis.

Bruno Guimaraes if you consider 25 year olds in their sixth year rookies.

There's also 31 different parallels for each player this year in Prizm, just to make those hot rookies worth even less lol.

Bob Ross · 03-16-2023, 11:31 AM

Another FOTL at an embarrassing price ask and no checklist.

Cool.

tomingo0711 · 03-16-2023, 12:54 PM

Snagged one at $291.67. Had to click buy now multiple times to get past the high volume error message.

Looks like it sold out at that price, happy to get my single box at that price.

mfw13 · 03-16-2023, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Another FOTL at an embarrassing price ask and no checklist.

Cool.

And yet people are still falling all over themselves to buy it.....

wilsonsingles · 03-16-2023, 01:22 PM

if it had gotten to floor, i would have bought a case.

tomingo0711 · 03-16-2023, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

And yet people are still falling all over themselves to buy it.....

Why do you care how people spend their money? What impact does it have on you?

Some of us are collectors and fans of the product and the league. I make a decent living and one of the things I get enjoyment out of is buying a box of cards and opening it. This is a sports card forum right? Isn’t that kind of the point?

I don’t know if you’re directing any of your comment at me. But I came here to discuss the release and pricing of the product. Excuse me for being excited.

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YayNJ · 03-16-2023, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tomingo0711

Why do you care how people spend their money? What impact does it have on you?

People buying crap at massively inflated prices keeps the hobby expensive for every single collector.

Breakers will get most of it, and people will then rush to pay hobby box prices for the "star" players and most will walk away with one or two base cards.

People are still paying 2020 prices but getting 2017 returns.

People that buy products without seeing the checklist are pretty silly.

phil · 03-16-2023, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

And yet people are still falling all over themselves to buy it.....

Breakers are. 2400 FOTL boxes supposedly sold and zero currently listed on ebay is a pretty good indication the general public weren't the ones who bought most of it.

yiguiri2002 · 03-16-2023, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by phil

Breakers are. 2400 FOTL boxes supposedly sold and zero currently listed on ebay is a pretty good indication the general public weren't the ones who bought most of it.

More than anything, I think it means flippers didn't get any. I think there will be a few people out there who got some at 300.

Buy to flip is dead and it's great. Buy to break is still pretty much alive.

tomingo0711 · 03-16-2023, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by YayNJ

People buying crap at massively inflated prices keeps the hobby expensive for every single collector.

Breakers will get most of it, and people will then rush to pay hobby box prices for the "star" players and most will walk away with one or two base cards.

People are still paying 2020 prices but getting 2017 returns.

People that buy products without seeing the checklist are pretty silly.

I mean the floor on this was $250 and it sold at or slightly below what you’ll find regular hobby boxes priced at for pre-sale.

So what do you recommend someone like me does? I know it doesn’t have a checklist but this is one product I collect every year so it’s not always all that important to see the checklist. I know the big PL stars will be in it. I’m not just chasing rookies.

So for the same price as a hobby box, why not buy the FOTL version and get the extra parallel?

I dislike the breakers and flippers gobbling up product as much as anyone. But I’m also not going to sit on the sidelines for one of my favorite releases each year.

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mikee1186 · 03-16-2023, 03:23 PM

I'm sure your purchase of 0.0004166% of the available stock has a massive impact on the market.

mikee1186 · 03-16-2023, 03:27 PM

We've seen people say it across these boards, but it bears repeating: Everyone engages in this hobby in their own way, so collect however you want!

I'm happy that you landed a box of a favorite product. But just make sure to share pics of your hits so that those of us who didn't grab any can live vicariously through you and get a little rush!

01-13-2023, 10:36 AM	#1
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01-13-2023, 11:25 AM	#3
yiguiri2002 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 12,261 afigueroaquevedo2002 yiguiri2002	Looks like they printed the hell out of this. Again. Over 1100 numbered parallels. Wonder how much this will be out of the gate. Last year's Hobby is already at 130 and keeps falling. __________________ Basketball Sets: Threads Century Greats Jerseys - Innovation Stat Line Jerseys Soccer Sets: 2018 World Cup Prizm Peru Parallels - 2015 Select Soccer Peru Parallels Players: Red Bulls Parallels, 17-18 Thibs Prizms, Soccer Legends Autos

03-16-2023, 09:42 AM	#9
fadster Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,275 fadster	Won't be allowed to go far below $300 or so as that's where pre-orders are at with the big retailers for regular hobby __________________ IG: @goldenballrookies

03-16-2023, 10:13 AM	#11
yiguiri2002 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 12,261 afigueroaquevedo2002 yiguiri2002	Some breakers have said they are buying at 300. I don't think it gets under that. __________________ Basketball Sets: Threads Century Greats Jerseys - Innovation Stat Line Jerseys Soccer Sets: 2018 World Cup Prizm Peru Parallels - 2015 Select Soccer Peru Parallels Players: Red Bulls Parallels, 17-18 Thibs Prizms, Soccer Legends Autos

01-13-2023, 10:39 AM	#2
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,147 hanelcocards	the irony of having a Pulisic "Instant Impact" and a Sancho "Fireworks"

01-13-2023, 11:40 AM	#4
mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 17,012	I'll probably buy some singles of Newcastle and US players, but given that this will probably release at $250/box or higher, I wouldn't dream of buying any wax.....

01-13-2023, 11:43 AM	#5
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,147 hanelcocards	Lets keep the malaise going. With a bit of effort we can get this to $60 a box in a few years where it belongs.

01-13-2023, 05:07 PM	#6
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,147 hanelcocards	Why do they insist on having such crap colours for the more desirable parallels? it's so stupid. PARALLEL: 2022-23 Panini Prizm Premier League - Purple Ice Prizm #/49 PARALLEL: 2022-23 Panini Prizm Premier League - Orange Prizm #/25 PARALLEL: 2022-23 Panini Prizm Premier League - Green Prizm #/5 It makes it almost impossible to colour match for a start.

03-16-2023, 08:32 AM	#7
tomingo0711 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,229 ingosportscards	FOTL Dutch Auction today. From Panini's website Look for a 1 blue Shimmer autograph, 1 Prizm blue Shimmer #'d/8, 4 base silver Prizms, 5 numbered base Prizms, 7 additional base Prizm, and 6 inserts per box, on average! Floor is $250, how close does it get to the floor?

03-16-2023, 09:53 AM	#10
phil Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 8,546	Recent ebay sales for 20 & 21 FOTL all in the $225-300 range and can buy 2021 Hobby for $125 or less. Possible lack of confidence from the Big 3 & breakers might let this drop closer to the floor than people are guessing.

03-16-2023, 10:49 AM	#13
Peachcardsatl Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 417	Has anyone had the opportunity to look through the checklist for any notable rookies?

03-16-2023, 11:31 AM	#15
Bob Ross Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 4,714	Another FOTL at an embarrassing price ask and no checklist. Cool.

03-16-2023, 12:54 PM	#16
tomingo0711 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,229 ingosportscards	Snagged one at $291.67. Had to click buy now multiple times to get past the high volume error message. Looks like it sold out at that price, happy to get my single box at that price.

03-16-2023, 01:22 PM	#18
wilsonsingles Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 8,389 wilsonsetsandsingles	if it had gotten to floor, i would have bought a case.

03-16-2023, 03:23 PM	#24
mikee1186 Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: TN Posts: 2,095 mikee1186	I'm sure your purchase of 0.0004166% of the available stock has a massive impact on the market.

03-16-2023, 03:27 PM	#25
mikee1186 Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: TN Posts: 2,095 mikee1186	We've seen people say it across these boards, but it bears repeating: Everyone engages in this hobby in their own way, so collect however you want! I'm happy that you landed a box of a favorite product. But just make sure to share pics of your hits so that those of us who didn't grab any can live vicariously through you and get a little rush!