EXAMPLE: cracked PSA holder & card swapped

towerymt · 09-26-2024, 08:14 PM

I noticed the 'frosting' on this one immediately and upon closer inspection it does appear to have been cracked open along the bottom of the holder. On the back, there appears to be a crack perpendicular to the edge, going inward, suggesting maybe it was pried open.

The cert number is active and does have a prior sale in 2018 that also shows damage to the holder, although it was pretty well hidden.

I couldn't find a prior image of this holder, so I can't say with certainty that the card was swapped.

PSA cert# 17278778 is active:
https://www.psacard.com/cert/17278778

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Current ebay listing (auction):
https://ebay.com/itm/166985926066

(click for larger image)
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past sale in 2018 = cracked slab
https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...09699931101122

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I don't know for sure if the card is authentic or not.

corndog · 09-28-2024, 11:20 AM

The card currently on Ebay is either fake or an even poorer copy of the original PSA 1.

Original PSA 1 card with cert #17278778:
Front image from a sale on 08-11-2013

Different card with same cert number on Ebay:

Original PSA 1 card with cert #17278778:
Back image from a sale on 05-14-2014

Different card with same cert number on Ebay:

corndog · 09-28-2024, 11:23 AM

I will pass this on to auburn35 and he can direct this to PSA and get the cert # deactivated.

Good eye towerymt!

discodanman45 · 09-28-2024, 11:29 AM

Pinhole right through the crotch. Someone did that intentionally.

corndog · 09-28-2024, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by discodanman45

Pinhole right through the crotch. Someone did that intentionally.

I didn't even notice that.

auburn35 · 09-28-2024, 06:42 PM

Nice teamwork. I did pass the info along to psa. Hopefully the right person will see and flag the listing, even if it doesn't reach the authenticity price level.

towerymt · 10-01-2024, 11:20 AM

Cert # is now deactivated.

ddearing · 10-01-2024, 12:16 PM

While you are at it Auburn - here are some more.
One of my customers at the Philly show almost got duped into buying this Jordan. It's on facebook in Buffalo and the price seemed too good to be true, so I told him to pull up the image on PSA's site and see if they looked the same.

image000001 by Dan Dearing, on Flickr

image000000 by Dan Dearing, on Flickr

It is being sold with these other two which I assume have also been switched out, but didn't check.

image000001 2 by Dan Dearing, on Flickr

image000000 2 by Dan Dearing, on Flickr

towerymt · 10-01-2024, 12:28 PM

It doesn't even fit inside the holder properly.

Everyone looking for a deal. Easy marks.

auburn35 · 10-01-2024, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddearing

While you are at it Auburn - here are some more.
One of my customers at the Philly show almost got duped into buying this Jordan. It's on facebook in Buffalo and the price seemed too good to be true, so I told him to pull up the image on PSA's site and see if they looked the same.

image000001 by Dan Dearing, on Flickr

image000000 by Dan Dearing, on Flickr

It is being sold with these other two which I assume have also been switched out, but didn't check.

image000001 2 by Dan Dearing, on Flickr

image000000 2 by Dan Dearing, on Flickr

I'll pass this along.
Very similar to some fakes I found for sale in California.

DragonWagon · 10-03-2024, 08:34 AM

All added to the Altered Card Database

auburn35 · 10-10-2024, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddearing

While you are at it Auburn - here are some more.
One of my customers at the Philly show almost got duped into buying this Jordan. It's on facebook in Buffalo and the price seemed too good to be true, so I told him to pull up the image on PSA's site and see if they looked the same.

Moved from facebook in Buffalo, to Craigslist in Maryland/Virginia. Also, has started to conceal the psa certs.
The fake Mantle and Star 101 are still available, now with a "PSA 9" 1986 Fleer and "PSA 10" Pokemon.

Classic description.

towerymt · 10-10-2024, 01:05 PM

I asked for the cert for the fleer jordan. Curious if it will be a different (active) cert, or the same inactive one.

towerymt · 10-21-2024, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by towerymt

I asked for the cert for the fleer jordan. Curious if it will be a different (active) cert, or the same inactive one.

I asked on 10/10, reply on 10/16 provided a list of available cards. I asked again for the cert, got this on 10/17 (just found it in spam folder today):

26026170

It's this one:
https://www.psacard.com/cert/26026170

Currently listed on ebay:
https://ebay.com/itm/156458084813

As always, beware the CL scammers.

auburn35 · 10-22-2024, 12:31 AM

Anything of interest among the other items on their list, or just more of the items already called out?

For some reason, psa hasn't utilized that "counterfeit deactivation" on the last couple of fake Star 101's.

This copy, already shared in the thread is still active.
https://www.psacard.com/cert/74426518

Here's another fake floating around CL.
https://www.psacard.com/cert/70215960

09-28-2024, 11:20 AM	#2
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 17,439	The card currently on Ebay is either fake or an even poorer copy of the original PSA 1. Original PSA 1 card with cert #17278778: Front image from a sale on 08-11-2013 Different card with same cert number on Ebay: Original PSA 1 card with cert #17278778: Back image from a sale on 05-14-2014 Different card with same cert number on Ebay: __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal.

09-28-2024, 11:23 AM	#3
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 17,439	I will pass this on to auburn35 and he can direct this to PSA and get the cert # deactivated. Good eye towerymt! __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal.

09-28-2024, 11:29 AM	#4
discodanman45 Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: CA Posts: 9,586 danch27	Pinhole right through the crotch. Someone did that intentionally. __________________ Updating my entire collection on Card Ladder. Lots to go... https://www.cardladder.com/showcase/IOBB7AY2qTVVKSgU9Aqj02kfF4I3

09-28-2024, 06:42 PM	#6
auburn35 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,293	Nice teamwork. I did pass the info along to psa. Hopefully the right person will see and flag the listing, even if it doesn't reach the authenticity price level. __________________ Ashley Lelie Rookie Collector, always looking for more.

10-01-2024, 11:20 AM	#7
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,648	Cert # is now deactivated. Attached Thumbnails

09-26-2024, 08:14 PM	#1
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,648	EXAMPLE: cracked PSA holder & card swapped I noticed the 'frosting' on this one immediately and upon closer inspection it does appear to have been cracked open along the bottom of the holder. On the back, there appears to be a crack perpendicular to the edge, going inward, suggesting maybe it was pried open. The cert number is active and does have a prior sale in 2018 that also shows damage to the holder, although it was pretty well hidden. I couldn't find a prior image of this holder, so I can't say with certainty that the card was swapped. PSA cert# 17278778 is active: https://www.psacard.com/cert/17278778 ------------------------------------------ Current ebay listing (auction): https://ebay.com/itm/166985926066 (click for larger image) ------------------------------------------ past sale in 2018 = cracked slab https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...09699931101122 ------------------------------------------ I don't know for sure if the card is authentic or not. __________________ In search of... 2018 Topps Chrome Update Max Scherzer #HMT77: Superfractor 2019 Topps Update Carter Kieboom #US109: Platinum

10-01-2024, 12:16 PM	#8
ddearing Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 3,805 vintage-dan ddearing	While you are at it Auburn - here are some more. One of my customers at the Philly show almost got duped into buying this Jordan. It's on facebook in Buffalo and the price seemed too good to be true, so I told him to pull up the image on PSA's site and see if they looked the same. image000001 by Dan Dearing, on Flickr image000000 by Dan Dearing, on Flickr It is being sold with these other two which I assume have also been switched out, but didn't check. image000001 2 by Dan Dearing, on Flickr image000000 2 by Dan Dearing, on Flickr __________________ If you have to explain why it's a 1/1, then it's NOT a 1/1. Looking for Andre Dawson Serial numbered cards that are his jersey number - either #8 or #10. So looking for cards like 8/8 or 08/99 or 10/250.

10-01-2024, 12:28 PM	#9
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,648	It doesn't even fit inside the holder properly. Everyone looking for a deal. Easy marks.

10-03-2024, 08:34 AM	#11
DragonWagon Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 900	All added to the Altered Card Database

10-10-2024, 01:05 PM	#13
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,648	I asked for the cert for the fleer jordan. Curious if it will be a different (active) cert, or the same inactive one.

10-22-2024, 12:31 AM	#15
auburn35 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,293	Anything of interest among the other items on their list, or just more of the items already called out? For some reason, psa hasn't utilized that "counterfeit deactivation" on the last couple of fake Star 101's. This copy, already shared in the thread is still active. https://www.psacard.com/cert/74426518 Here's another fake floating around CL. https://www.psacard.com/cert/70215960 __________________ Ashley Lelie Rookie Collector, always looking for more.