Let the Franmil Reyes eBay Returns BEGIN!

[NeedChapmans]

Not off to a great start in his first four MLB games; only two hits, buyers have begun crafting terrific reasons why they need to return their Franmil Reyes RC's.

Three buyers looking to back out of purchases so far, likely many more to go. I think I may end up owning more Reyes autos than I started with when this is all said and done!

Back out #1 - Hi there Michael.....sorry been a crazy week for me just found out a few days ago ...my dog has cancer...have to pay for surgery $5000 i almost have enough to pay for all cards...but if you could cancel the one blue ungraded card...i should have enough to pay for the cards tonight or the morning...i would appreciate that...been listing stuff to pay for dogs surgery...it sucks, but it life..let me know if you can do that
eBayer - the-kings-cards (803)
My Decision - I pulled the raw blue out of the invoice and I offered him the invoice to pay for the remainder (4 cards). He did. The raw blue stays in limbo for now but hopefully positive feedback will be left for the package when it arrives in a day or two, and I'll gladly cancel the blue. This was the first one, so my response was more docile than usual.

Back out #2 - I am so sorry. My son was on my account and bidding on this. I wish I had the money to pay for it but we don't. I am so sorry for this.
eBayer - want-it-need-it-get-it-now (32)
My Decision - I had a little fun with this one. After searching the buyers real name (very unique name), a Facebook profile was found. She's a mom in Boone NC, with Facebook pictures of a brand new baby. Pictures of what I presume to be the husband/father (perhaps just dad, IDK), but no pictures of any other son. I told her that allowing a 1 year old to bid on eBay can cause severe developmental problems in the future, and she attached a picture of another son she has (no pictures on Facebook of this kid though, must not be adored as much).



She wants me to believe that at 10:35 at night on a Wednesday, this seven year old put two sniped bids in during the final five seconds of my Franmil Reyes Orange auction? Do you know how tricky it can be to get two bids in during the final five seconds? Kid has MAD skills. I said to her that she's either lying, or is allowing her 7 year old to stay up until 11pm on a school night, unsupervised, bidding on eBay auctions. She should prefer the former. Dad's Facebook has links to all kinds of different MLB and MiLB clubs, easy to presume he's the bidder. No contact since, I suspect this won't be getting paid.

Back out #3 - I received the card and there is a scratch from top to bottom in the case. I didn’t see that in the description.
eBayer - mjlfit (768)
My Decision - A BGS scratch! Well, I offered to either give a $10 refund to have the case replaced, so long as a picture can be sent showing the scratch, OR to replace the card entirely with another Reyes Bubble 9.5/10, because I still have a dozen of them. Even offered to replace with better subs. Radio silence so far, but I have no doubt I'll receive a "I'd simply like to return the card. Please set up a return" email shortly.

Prospecting is the devils work.

[Flkrsn5]

Ebay has to do something about this. Glad I sold mine when I did (before he got the call).

[Hollywood42]

Every time I start thinking I should sell some stuff on eBay, I read more headaches like this. I could sell a lot more on eBay than I could on here, but there seems to be far less headaches here

[VandyCards]

Honestly, this is why I don't sell prospects during their initial "hot" period. It also leads me to not prospect that much at all.

[moosetequila]

Nothing wrong with selling while they are hot, and BEFORE the call up. Less stress and issues.

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[monkeymcgee]

Originally Posted by moosetequila

Nothing wrong with selling while they are hot, and BEFORE the call up. Less stress and issues.

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Agreed--sell on the pre-call up hype. You'll leave some on the table for certain cases, but I bet you do better overall and have less buyers remorse since those buyers typically know what they're getting into

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by moosetequila

Nothing wrong with selling while they are hot, and BEFORE the call up. Less stress and issues.

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Originally Posted by monkeymcgee

Agreed--sell on the pre-call up hype. You'll leave some on the table for certain cases, but I bet you do better overall and have less buyers remorse since those buyers typically know what they're getting into

Sounds awesome fellas.

Franmil was hitting .261 / .355 / .478 on May 1st. His auto was worth $3.
Twelve days later, he was hitting .346 / .440 / .738 and was called up. Top spot on the hot list six days prior to his call-up. This window of hotness before call-up doesn't exist sometimes.

See Juan Soto. Anyone selling his autos now is in for a world of pain if he comes out of the gate slowly.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Originally Posted by Flkrsn5

Ebay has to do something about this. Glad I sold mine when I did (before he got the call).

They never will. They are all about protecting buyers (to a fault). Less buyers = less money of them.

I remember getting at least a dozen Brady's returned when he tore his ACL in 2008. Not much you can do. If you ask them to prove damage, they will just damage the card.

Sucks NC -- but thanks for posting these. Very entertaining.

[rngrdanny22]

Wow. I get this sometimes too. On MUCH lower value items.

My favorite explanation in the last month: "My wife found out about my purchase. This is bad."

[bdsparty32]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Sounds awesome fellas.

Franmil was hitting .261 / .355 / .478 on May 1st. His auto was worth $3.
Twelve days later, he was hitting .346 / .440 / .738 and was called up. Top spot on the hot list six days prior to his call-up. This window of hotness before call-up doesn't exist sometimes.

See Juan Soto. Anyone selling his autos now is in for a world of pain if he comes out of the gate slowly.

I was just about to say this. With Franmil there really wasn’t an opportunity sell before the call-up.

[ThoseBackPages]

while this sucks for sellers, NC has turned this into pure entertainment

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

Wow. I get this sometimes too. On MUCH lower value items.

My favorite explanation in the last month: "My wife found out about my purchase. This is bad."

That happened to me once as well. I sold a buyer a BGS 10 LeBron James 2003 Topps Chrome Refractor RC. He said his wife would divorce him if he didn't return the card.

Nothing I could do. Return accepted.

[mrbasepauly]

Lol man funny and such shitty people. Wish eBay wasn’t so easy on crummy buyers like these.

[SaveMeTheGum]

This one time, this kid bought a bunch of my cards for double their value and then his mom emailed me wanting to return them. Luckily a white knight swooped in and tricked the mom into selling them all to his friend at a huge discount. Maybe he can help you out with these ones...

[Flurrious]

Just thought I would chime in,
sold ohtani heritage for around 400, since then it went down, a lot.
guy says he opened the package and nothing was in it not much else though I asked him if the priority envelope looked tampered with. check out this package
looks like a gorilla got to it
if usps sees this arent they suppose to put it in a "we care" polybag ?

also will add i had it checked in at the post office.

edited first picture out because the dumbassss has his credit card right on the table.....



LOOK ! I MEAN - THERES DEFINITELY NOTHING IN THERE !






i know its not the same , but its just getting ridiculous. i would rather sell here for 15% -20% less than deal with the fux at ebay anymore

[Chicharito]

Since PayPal(or credit card companies) is/are allowing buyers to return theirs purchases in 180 days without legit reasons(like the post above, buyers can always damage the card and claim item not as described), I don’t think there is a way to protect the sellers.

[rngrdanny22]

^^^

I ship graded cards (if just one) in a padded flat rate envelope stuffed into a small flat rate box. Then taped to hell. Paper envelopes are asking for trouble.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Flurrious

Just thought I would chime in,
sold ohtani heritage for around 400, since then it went down, a lot.
guy says he opened the package and nothing was in it not much else though I asked him if the priority envelope looked tampered with. check out this package
looks like a gorilla got to it
if usps sees this arent they suppose to put it in a "we care" polybag ?

You should win this one easy. Not a chance that was delivered without a bag.

[Flurrious]

Originally Posted by Chicharito

Since PayPal(or credit card companies) is/are allowing buyers to return theirs purchases in 180 days without legit reasons(like the post above, buyers can always damage the card and claim item not as described), I don’t think there is a way to protect the sellers.

there is still no way to protect sellers, you can tape it to survive a nuclear bomb, and if the buyer is not happy youre getting trash back, if youre lucky.

[Flurrious]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

You should win this one easy. Not a chance that was delivered without a bag.

already lost it

now fighting with usps for money via insurance. im sure theyre gonna tell me to f myself too

[texmcpherson]

I'm glad I made a decision a few years ago to not touch prospecting. Best decision I ever made.

[danimal875]

I know it’s frustrating but with your volume, I would just expect a certain percentage of returns, it’s just a fact of life selling cards at the top of the market. At the end of the day, your profit margin is blowing away the losses and all the people that are stupid enough to buy right at call up will almost always lose. If you can, just let it go. It’s not worth the aggravation.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Flurrious

already lost it

now fighting with usps for money via insurance. im sure theyre gonna tell me to f myself too

Unreal. What's the eBay username?

[SaveMeTheGum]

Originally Posted by Flurrious

already lost it

now fighting with usps for money via insurance. im sure theyre gonna tell me to f myself too

Good luck with USPS insurance.

This is why I started putting aside an insurance reserve account. Every time I ship a card that is >$100, I take whatever the insurance would have cost me, and put it in my own insurance reserve account. That way, if something like this happens, I have my own money to pay me back. And if not, I get to keep my money instead of USPS. I wish I had started doing this 10 years ago...

[moosetequila]

I put mine between to cardboard slabs, wrapped in poly padded mailer, inside another poly bubble mailer. Haven't used paper in ages, and poly also protects against fluids..works out awesome.

Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

^^^

I ship graded cards (if just one) in a padded flat rate envelope stuffed into a small flat rate box. Then taped to hell. Paper envelopes are asking for trouble.

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