SMH Messages on eBay

Swipe79 · 05-28-2021, 09:01 PM

Every week or two, I get messages that make me do a little head shake. It's definitely been interesting interacting with people as more people are into it now.

A few recent ones...as an example.

Can I get a scan of the back of the card (listed for $1.49 delivered)

Is this card a reprint? (1994 Ted Williams Derek Jeter Base Card)

I had one helpful person with less than twenty feedback offering me lessons on how to grade cards...you know...cause I apparently have no experience with that.

One guy asked a bunch of questions on a twenty dollar card and then asked me to lower the price a whole bunch because the shipping was too high to Canada through GSP.

ga5150 · 05-29-2021, 08:59 AM

I sell concert tickets and music passes on ebay. I always seem to get messages where the person will tell a long drawn out story about whatever band it is, how they met/partied/slept/hung out/ with that band.

They never seem to make an offer on the actual ticket though. It's more of an outlet for them to tell a story. I just find it interesting that someone will take the time to type out a long story to send in the ebay message with no intent on buying the ticket.

Swipe79 · 05-29-2021, 02:08 PM

Here's one from today on a Standard Envelope.

"Have you shipped the card? Tracking has said out for delivery for 2 weeks."

Obviously this will end up being a refund but...

TheHeel · 05-29-2021, 02:30 PM

I get the ol', "Can I get a scan of the back" or "Can you do X amount" for a $2-4 card.

374cardshop · 05-29-2021, 03:53 PM

I haven't regularly listed on eBay in over a year now. I have missed out on some money for sure but also know I saved myself a few headaches with a lot of the newer folk. I know I have had some people look at cards in my $1 box at shows as if they where examining the authenticity of The Declaration Of Independence but if someone asked me for detailed photos of a $1.49 card I'd have to ignore them before things went south. I know someone once literally tried starting a fight with me on eBay over me not responding to them when they asked the lowest I'd go on a $9.99 listing.

jamcas997 · 05-29-2021, 08:03 PM

When you refuse to go lower on a $2-10 listing and they come back with good luck buddy or pal.
First off i don,t know you so I'm not your buddy or you pal. I really can't stand those.

byronscott4ever · 05-29-2021, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamcas997

When you refuse to go lower on a $2-10 listing and they come back with good luck buddy or pal.
First off i don,t know you so I'm not your buddy or you pal. I really can't stand those.

I once had someone question my price on a 1/1 (which amused me already) but I ignored the message and soon afterwards someone offered more lol

rodent14 · 05-29-2021, 11:27 PM

I had a buyer recently leave me neutral feedback (without messaging me first) and refuse to remove it on a 99 cent card due to "ink smudges on the back." The card was a 2020 chronicles draft crown royale base card, and he was sending close ups of the card design on the back upper left corner. I explained that it wasn't ink transfer and is literally the design of the card, and sent him a link to COMC where every single card has those marks but he kept accusing me of trying to hide condition. Another one to add to my block list.

Also had another buyer send an offer of around 25% of the other offers I've received on a card, with a message justifying it based on my card being "only an SGC 8", and quoting a PSA 9 sale that went for around 5x his offer (which was followed by several higher raw sales after that one). Gotta love how the lowballers are always the ones trying to send you a justification for their lowball offer.

valleynuckfan · 05-30-2021, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamcas997

When you refuse to go lower on a $2-10 listing and they come back with good luck buddy or pal.
First off i don,t know you so I'm not your buddy or you pal. I really can't stand those.

Exactly. Even had one knob tell me he was doing me a favour with his 3 consecutive lowball offers on an 8.99 fixed price card.
Blocked!

CCSportsCards · 05-30-2021, 11:35 PM

99.9% of the messages I get I shake my head at

AwesomeBrian · 05-31-2021, 03:19 PM

I had a guy ask for scans of cards from one of my drop down listings, I happily obliged and mentioned that I had another store that was PWE and I could sell through that and save him on shipping. He returned with a 2 paragraph rant about how I'm wasting my time selling $2-5 cards and how he'd been collecting for 40 years and hated how it is now. I kindly told him that he could find someone else to buy from.

Friend sold some base sets of 2020 HHN and showed me a message from a buyer because Priority delivery was taking more than 2 days. It turned into a page long rant covering everything from my friends choice of Post Office to ship from, USPS, and China.

Jbenn26 · 05-31-2021, 05:20 PM

I have had a guy call me a scammer a few months ago because he got a card cheaper then I had it listed then proceeded to threaten me and call me every insult under the sun. So I blocked him and reported for harassment he then a few days ago he finds me on instagram and proceeds to start doing it again and again all over a Leonard Fournette Card he had graded an 8.5

Swipe79 · 06-08-2021, 11:06 AM

Does anyone else find that the users who ask for additional pictures tend never to purchase - even if you provide pictures.

KnicksLife · 06-08-2021, 01:59 PM

I had a buyer asking me "If I am giving him a good deal" , and this is after he received the card. I replied , Of course and asked him if he didn't like the card. His response was simply he wanted to make sure it was a good deal

Fortunately , he kept the card lol

KnicksLife · 06-08-2021, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Swipe79

Does anyone else find that the users who ask for additional pictures tend never to purchase - even if you provide pictures.

I need pictures of front & back. Plus the four corners, How's the edges?

After sending the pictures.... "Can you do $XXX (Basically 50% of asking price)? "

bookyyyyyy · 06-08-2021, 02:15 PM

I received one recently where a buyer asked about "the condition" of a $5 card. I gave the usual "I am not a professional grader" blah blah blah. They were not happy with my answer and I explained there are plenty of irresponsible buyers that grade chase.

This was their response:

"Irresponsible you little b****.... I have over 1000 flawless transactions deek..... and I have 1 card worth more than your existence and your family tree combined. Lick a sack"

Gotta love eBay.

chezball · 06-08-2021, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bookyyyyyy

I received one recently where a buyer asked about "the condition" of a $5 card. I gave the usual "I am not a professional grader" blah blah blah. They were not happy with my answer and I explained there are plenty of irresponsible buyers that grade chase.

This was their response:

"Irresponsible you little b****.... I have over 1000 flawless transactions deek..... and I have 1 card worth more than your existence and your family tree combined. Lick a sack"

Gotta love eBay.

A perfect example of the less you deal with buyers the better.

BipolarBear · 06-08-2021, 09:13 PM

My favorite: What's the lowest you take on this?

I dunno....what's the most you'll pay?

DickGroat · 06-09-2021, 11:17 AM

Sellers aren't that great either. Let's not ignore the guys that like to list their collection at a markup that is multiples above comp sales and get salty when you offer a reasonable price to them.

Not long ago, I made an offer for $20 on a raw card that the seller listed for $50. Comps on raw sales were in the $15 to $25 range. Its not a rare card either, just a base rookie that has many new listings every day. My offer was fair and I explained why with a message. The seller counter offers with $55, which was above list. Why do some sellers even enable BO if you're just going to get offended at fair offers? Do us both a favor and don't leave the door open for negotiation so I know to just keep walking.

packman80 · 06-09-2021, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DickGroat

Sellers aren't that great either. Let's not ignore the guys that like to list their collection at a markup that is multiples above comp sales and get salty when you offer a reasonable price to them.

Not long ago, I made an offer for $20 on a raw card that the seller listed for $50. Comps on raw sales were in the $15 to $25 range. Its not a rare card either, just a base rookie that has many new listings every day. My offer was fair and I explained why with a message. The seller counter offers with $55, which was above list. Why do some sellers even enable BO if you're just going to get offended at fair offers? Do us both a favor and don't leave the door open for negotiation so I know to just keep walking.

Back when Ebay had 3 max offers best offer I made some on a card. Think my final offer was $10 less on a $100 card and was auto rejected every time. I messaged the guy asked what he had his auto reject at he messaged back saying he set auto reject at anything less then $2 of his list price? Really you are going to take offers but reject anything that is less then $2 of your list price why even take offers then. To me doing something like that you are just trying to be a dick by having all offers auto rejected as no one is going to make a offer of $99 on a $100 card.

DickGroat · 06-09-2021, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by packman80

Back when Ebay had 3 max offers best offer I made some on a card. Think my final offer was $10 less on a $100 card and was auto rejected every time. I messaged the guy asked what he had his auto reject at he messaged back saying he set auto reject at anything less then $2 of his list price? Really you are going to take offers but reject anything that is less then $2 of your list price why even take offers then. To me doing something like that you are just trying to be a dick by having all offers auto rejected as no one is going to make a offer of $99 on a $100 card.

Yea I agree, I don't get it and this happens a lot too. I make a lot of offers on really high priced cards because I think there's an opportunity to get something at a good price if you can convince the seller they're out of their mind with pricing. I usually explain my offer using comps and never offer the below the lowest price. Maybe 75% of the time I'm rejected with no counter or explanation. Just a nice silent "FU go away". Maybe another 20% of the time the seller counter offers with a price that's still above all comps, just not quite as high, maybe with a salty message too like "IDC if you don't buy it, someone else will" or "I really don't need to sell this". The rest of the time, I either get a nice message why they can't do my price or a fair counter. That's fine, I like positive interaction, even if I don't get what I want, I'm more likely to give a little ground just because you're pleasant to work with. This is rare though.

BGT Masters · 06-09-2021, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by packman80

Back when Ebay had 3 max offers best offer I made some on a card. Think my final offer was $10 less on a $100 card and was auto rejected every time. I messaged the guy asked what he had his auto reject at he messaged back saying he set auto reject at anything less then $2 of his list price? Really you are going to take offers but reject anything that is less then $2 of your list price why even take offers then. To me doing something like that you are just trying to be a dick by having all offers auto rejected as no one is going to make a offer of $99 on a $100 card.

You probably get a higher ranking in ebay's search rankings if you have offers on would be my guess. They have no intention of actually taking offers but want the boosted rankings for their listings.

iam12fear · 06-09-2021, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DickGroat

Sellers aren't that great either. Let's not ignore the guys that like to list their collection at a markup that is multiples above comp sales and get salty when you offer a reasonable price to them.

Not long ago, I made an offer for $20 on a raw card that the seller listed for $50. Comps on raw sales were in the $15 to $25 range. Its not a rare card either, just a base rookie that has many new listings every day. My offer was fair and I explained why with a message. The seller counter offers with $55, which was above list. Why do some sellers even enable BO if you're just going to get offended at fair offers? Do us both a favor and don't leave the door open for negotiation so I know to just keep walking.

I hate buyers that insist on listing "comps" prices with their offers. Why is it incumbent on the seller to match "comps"? If a seller is way under the comp pricing, are you going to pay the extra? Of course you aren't. You are hitting that BIN as quickly as you can.

If it's not a rare card, and has many new listings every day, why are you even bothering with the overpriced one? Do us both a favor and buy one of the many others that are priced at "comps".

Swipe79 · 06-09-2021, 01:01 PM

On the best offer option, there's a little message that says allowing offers increases the chance of selling your item 3-7%. Maybe that's it.

I can tell you this. I sell more items straight BIN than BO. I get a few offers a day - usually I'm at lowest or withing a small range of lowest on my stuff. If it's a card that's been sitting, I am more likely to accept the offer. If I counter, I would say the actual chance of the item selling is a lot smaller...like 1 in 20 actually accept the counter.

DickGroat · 06-09-2021, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by iam12fear

I hate buyers that insist on listing "comps" prices with their offers. Why is it incumbent on the seller to match "comps"? If a seller is way under the comp pricing, are you going to pay the extra? Of course you aren't. You are hitting that BIN as quickly as you can.

If it's not a rare card, and has many new listings every day, why are you even bothering with the overpriced one? Do us both a favor and buy one of the many others that are priced at "comps".

Comps are how to value something like a card. Many other industries use comp sales to set a price and determine fair value. Real estate and used cars are some good examples. Price guides use this method too. Its a really common way to value assets. Are you really going to argue against using comps to value something? You can have the last word on that, you won't change my mind.

I might not offer lowest price of comps because I want to offer a "win-win" scenario in order to complete the purchase faster. I get something at a fair price and you sell at a fair price. Its like an olive branch in negotiating. If there's a lower BN, I'll go to that seller. Otherwise, I may not want to deal with auction, especially if it's a really high price card because those auctions can get out of hand and I'll offer a fair price for certainty of the purchase.

But no one is holding a gun to your head. Negotiating is part of the game. If you don't like offers, just turn them off. It will let the the rest of us know who really wants to sell and who just there to showcase their collection.

05-28-2021, 09:01 PM	#1
Swipe79 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 13,162 Swipe79 XFactor	SMH Messages on eBay Every week or two, I get messages that make me do a little head shake. It's definitely been interesting interacting with people as more people are into it now. A few recent ones...as an example. Can I get a scan of the back of the card (listed for $1.49 delivered) Is this card a reprint? (1994 Ted Williams Derek Jeter Base Card) I had one helpful person with less than twenty feedback offering me lessons on how to grade cards...you know...cause I apparently have no experience with that. One guy asked a bunch of questions on a twenty dollar card and then asked me to lower the price a whole bunch because the shipping was too high to Canada through GSP. __________________ Have a nice day!

05-29-2021, 02:08 PM	#3
Swipe79 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 13,162 Swipe79 XFactor	Here's one from today on a Standard Envelope. "Have you shipped the card? Tracking has said out for delivery for 2 weeks." Obviously this will end up being a refund but... __________________ Have a nice day!

05-29-2021, 02:30 PM	#4
TheHeel Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 15,640	I get the ol', "Can I get a scan of the back" or "Can you do X amount" for a $2-4 card. __________________ 48,230, 52,879, 40,400, 4,780 Pending Deals:

05-29-2021, 03:53 PM	#5
374cardshop Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 151 justinstoreforyou	I haven't regularly listed on eBay in over a year now. I have missed out on some money for sure but also know I saved myself a few headaches with a lot of the newer folk. I know I have had some people look at cards in my $1 box at shows as if they where examining the authenticity of The Declaration Of Independence but if someone asked me for detailed photos of a $1.49 card I'd have to ignore them before things went south. I know someone once literally tried starting a fight with me on eBay over me not responding to them when they asked the lowest I'd go on a $9.99 listing. __________________ Akron OH. Over 20 years in the hobby. Buy/Sell FB, BB, BK. Attend several local shows. COMC, eBay, FB, Twitter, and Mercari seller. PP G/S only.

05-29-2021, 11:27 PM	#8
rodent14 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 396 Rodent14	I had a buyer recently leave me neutral feedback (without messaging me first) and refuse to remove it on a 99 cent card due to "ink smudges on the back." The card was a 2020 chronicles draft crown royale base card, and he was sending close ups of the card design on the back upper left corner. I explained that it wasn't ink transfer and is literally the design of the card, and sent him a link to COMC where every single card has those marks but he kept accusing me of trying to hide condition. Another one to add to my block list. Also had another buyer send an offer of around 25% of the other offers I've received on a card, with a message justifying it based on my card being "only an SGC 8", and quoting a PSA 9 sale that went for around 5x his offer (which was followed by several higher raw sales after that one). Gotta love how the lowballers are always the ones trying to send you a justification for their lowball offer. __________________ Please feel free to check my feedback on SCF under the same username. Last edited by rodent14; 05-29-2021 at 11:30 PM.

05-29-2021, 08:59 AM	#2
ga5150 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Maryland Posts: 334 ga5150	I sell concert tickets and music passes on ebay. I always seem to get messages where the person will tell a long drawn out story about whatever band it is, how they met/partied/slept/hung out/ with that band. They never seem to make an offer on the actual ticket though. It's more of an outlet for them to tell a story. I just find it interesting that someone will take the time to type out a long story to send in the ebay message with no intent on buying the ticket.

05-29-2021, 08:03 PM	#6
jamcas997 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 5,648	When you refuse to go lower on a $2-10 listing and they come back with good luck buddy or pal. First off i don,t know you so I'm not your buddy or you pal. I really can't stand those.

05-30-2021, 11:35 PM	#10
CCSportsCards Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sioux Falls SD Posts: 3,313 CollectorsCorner	99.9% of the messages I get I shake my head at

05-31-2021, 03:19 PM	#11
AwesomeBrian Temporarily Suspended Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: NE O-H-I-O Posts: 6,011	I had a guy ask for scans of cards from one of my drop down listings, I happily obliged and mentioned that I had another store that was PWE and I could sell through that and save him on shipping. He returned with a 2 paragraph rant about how I'm wasting my time selling $2-5 cards and how he'd been collecting for 40 years and hated how it is now. I kindly told him that he could find someone else to buy from. Friend sold some base sets of 2020 HHN and showed me a message from a buyer because Priority delivery was taking more than 2 days. It turned into a page long rant covering everything from my friends choice of Post Office to ship from, USPS, and China.

05-31-2021, 05:20 PM	#12
Jbenn26 Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Canada Posts: 352 jbenn26	I have had a guy call me a scammer a few months ago because he got a card cheaper then I had it listed then proceeded to threaten me and call me every insult under the sun. So I blocked him and reported for harassment he then a few days ago he finds me on instagram and proceeds to start doing it again and again all over a Leonard Fournette Card he had graded an 8.5

06-08-2021, 11:06 AM	#13
Swipe79 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 13,162 Swipe79 XFactor	Does anyone else find that the users who ask for additional pictures tend never to purchase - even if you provide pictures. __________________ Have a nice day!

06-08-2021, 01:59 PM	#14
KnicksLife Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: New York Posts: 3,712	I had a buyer asking me "If I am giving him a good deal" , and this is after he received the card. I replied , Of course and asked him if he didn't like the card. His response was simply he wanted to make sure it was a good deal Fortunately , he kept the card lol __________________ Flickr:https://www.flickr.com/photos/141429960@N08/albums Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/knicksforlife23/

06-08-2021, 02:15 PM	#16
bookyyyyyy Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 5,519	I received one recently where a buyer asked about "the condition" of a $5 card. I gave the usual "I am not a professional grader" blah blah blah. They were not happy with my answer and I explained there are plenty of irresponsible buyers that grade chase. This was their response: "Irresponsible you little b**.... I have over 1000 flawless transactions deek..... and I have 1 card worth more than your existence and your family tree combined. Lick a sack" Gotta love eBay. __________________ THERE'S ALWAYS MONEY IN THE BANANA STAND**

06-08-2021, 09:13 PM	#18
BipolarBear Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 311 knifebeardthepirate	My favorite: What's the lowest you take on this? I dunno....what's the most you'll pay?

06-09-2021, 11:17 AM	#19
DickGroat Member Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 16	Sellers aren't that great either. Let's not ignore the guys that like to list their collection at a markup that is multiples above comp sales and get salty when you offer a reasonable price to them. Not long ago, I made an offer for $20 on a raw card that the seller listed for $50. Comps on raw sales were in the $15 to $25 range. Its not a rare card either, just a base rookie that has many new listings every day. My offer was fair and I explained why with a message. The seller counter offers with $55, which was above list. Why do some sellers even enable BO if you're just going to get offended at fair offers? Do us both a favor and don't leave the door open for negotiation so I know to just keep walking.

06-09-2021, 01:01 PM	#24
Swipe79 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 13,162 Swipe79 XFactor	On the best offer option, there's a little message that says allowing offers increases the chance of selling your item 3-7%. Maybe that's it. I can tell you this. I sell more items straight BIN than BO. I get a few offers a day - usually I'm at lowest or withing a small range of lowest on my stuff. If it's a card that's been sitting, I am more likely to accept the offer. If I counter, I would say the actual chance of the item selling is a lot smaller...like 1 in 20 actually accept the counter. __________________ Have a nice day!