Peter King HoF Voting Explanation

Cyphon25 · 02-03-2020, 02:52 PM

So I just read an article where King gave an explanation for not giving a vote for Troy Polamalu to get into the HoF. Here it is

“6. I think an explanation for the lack of vote for Polamalu on the final five is necessary. I believe he was one of the top five candidates this year, and I believe in voting for the best five candidates. But because I felt certain Polamalu would make it regardless of my vote, I decided to vote for three players I felt were marginal after listening to the deliberations—Atwater, Boselli and Lynch. I don’t feel great about doing that, honestly. Our jobs are to vote for the best five, and I was totally on the fence about the fifth yea vote had I marked down Polamalu. It still bothers me a little bit. But I felt so strongly about the cases of Atwater, Boselli and Lynch, who were exceedingly close in my eyes, that I wanted to vote for them, knowing that a vote not for Polamalu was not going to keep him out. I’ve done this a couple of times before, and I absolutely do not want to make it a habit. It just felt like the right thing to do this year.”

So he starts by admitting he is one of the top 5 guys and thus, a deserving hall of famer but goes on to explain that he felt bad for other guys and decided to give out charity votes. While he didn't vote for Isaac Bruce this is why guys like Isaac Bruce get into the HoF and it starts to lose it's luster. How many other writers/voters are rolling with this same thought process?

In my opinion this is a flat out admission that he can't be trusted and he should be stripped of his voting rights. He says he has done it multiple times as well. I will even go a step further, I would love for the NFL to revamp the whole process and go with more guys like they have on the blue ribbon panel as opposed to writers.

The blue ribbon included guys like Bill Belichick, John Madden, Ozzie Newsome etc....I'll trust what those guys know about football more than this idiot writers.

Cavaliercards · 02-03-2020, 02:54 PM

He didnt give out charity votes, he gave others the best opportunity.

Issac Bruce is a HOFer and the HOF does not lose it's luster because of it.

Peter King would be considered by many to be on a Blue Ribbon Panel and will be in the HOF as a contributor.

Siberian13 · 02-03-2020, 02:58 PM

You vote for the best, it’s that simple. A lot of these guys don’t deserve to be voting for the HOF anyways.

glen87 · 02-03-2020, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyphon25

So I just read an article where King gave an explanation for not giving a vote for Troy Polamalu to get into the HoF. Here it is

“6. I think an explanation for the lack of vote for Polamalu on the final five is necessary. I believe he was one of the top five candidates this year, and I believe in voting for the best five candidates. But because I felt certain Polamalu would make it regardless of my vote, I decided to vote for three players I felt were marginal after listening to the deliberations—Atwater, Boselli and Lynch. I don’t feel great about doing that, honestly. Our jobs are to vote for the best five, and I was totally on the fence about the fifth yea vote had I marked down Polamalu. It still bothers me a little bit. But I felt so strongly about the cases of Atwater, Boselli and Lynch, who were exceedingly close in my eyes, that I wanted to vote for them, knowing that a vote not for Polamalu was not going to keep him out. I’ve done this a couple of times before, and I absolutely do not want to make it a habit. It just felt like the right thing to do this year.”

So he starts by admitting he is one of the top 5 guys and thus, a deserving hall of famer but goes on to explain that he felt bad for other guys and decided to give out charity votes. While he didn't vote for Isaac Bruce this is why guys like Isaac Bruce get into the HoF and it starts to lose it's luster. How many other writers/voters are rolling with this same thought process?

In my opinion this is a flat out admission that he can't be trusted and he should be stripped of his voting rights. He says he has done it multiple times as well. I will even go a step further, I would love for the NFL to revamp the whole process and go with more guys like they have on the blue ribbon panel as opposed to writers.

The blue ribbon included guys like Bill Belichick, John Madden, Ozzie Newsome etc....I'll trust what those guys know about football more than this idiot writers.

uuhhh....it already is a habit if you have done this a couple of times before.

needs to lose his vote if you ask me.

KevJo · 02-03-2020, 03:30 PM

Think that's bad, some crack pot didn't vote for Derek Jeter.

Kevin

mattsey9 · 02-03-2020, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KevJo

Think that's bad, some crack pot didn't vote for Derek Jeter.

Kevin

Or Hank Aaron

Or Willie Mays

This is not a new concept.

Siberian13 · 02-03-2020, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

He didnt give out charity votes, he gave others the best opportunity.

Issac Bruce is a HOFer and the HOF does not lose it's luster because of it.

Peter King would be considered by many to be on a Blue Ribbon Panel and will be in the HOF as a contributor.

These are the types that shouldn’t have a vote. They think like you.

Cyphon25 · 02-03-2020, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

He didnt give out charity votes, he gave others the best opportunity.

That is pretty much the definition of a charity vote. He said Troy was one of the 5 best but didn't give him one of his 5 votes. So he literally said he voted for what he viewed as an inferior talent.

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Issac Bruce is a HOFer and the HOF does not lose it's luster because of it.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but he didn't even belong in over the 2 other receivers he was up against this year. He has no first team All Pros and only 1 2nd team. How many other HoF receivers can say that?

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Peter King would be considered by many to be on a Blue Ribbon Panel and will be in the HOF as a contributor.

Which will be a mistake based off of what his explanation was for voting. The dude has no business being allowed to vote when he admits to voting for the less talented players.

Siberian13 · 02-03-2020, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyphon25

That is pretty much the definition of a charity vote. He said Troy was one of the 5 best but didn't give him one of his 5 votes. So he literally said he voted for what he viewed as an inferior talent.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but he didn't even belong in over the 2 other receivers he was up against this year. He has no first team All Pros and only 1 2nd team. How many other HoF receivers can say that?

Which will be a mistake based off of what his explanation was for voting. The dude has no business being allowed to vote when he admits to voting for the less talented players.

Enjoy your conversation with a brick wall.

Cavaliercards · 02-03-2020, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyphon25

That is pretty much the definition of a charity vote. He said Troy was one of the 5 best but didn't give him one of his 5 votes. So he literally said he voted for what he viewed as an inferior talent.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but he didn't even belong in over the 2 other receivers he was up against this year. He has no first team All Pros and only 1 2nd team. How many other HoF receivers can say that?

Which will be a mistake based off of what his explanation was for voting. The dude has no business being allowed to vote when he admits to voting for the less talented players.

Not a charity vote that would be voting for someone he doesn’t feel is a HOFer

Might want to look at other players that are in Bruce is a HOFer

Far as voting it wouldn’t be a mistake, the guy is revered and respected by players GMs Coaches Agents people that manage the Hall for a reason and it’s same reason Peter will be in the HOF

dolphinsdude · 02-03-2020, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyphon25

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but he didn't even belong in over the 2 other receivers he was up against this year. He has no first team All Pros and only 1 2nd team. How many other HoF receivers can say that?
.

I believe Tim Brown has zero 1st teams APs and only one 2nd team. Never understood it.

glen87 · 02-03-2020, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Not a charity vote that would be voting for someone he doesn’t feel is a HOFer

-I believe he was one of the top five candidates
-I believe in voting for the best five candidates.
-Our jobs are to vote for the best five

yet did not vote for him....hhhhhmmmmmmmmm

Cavaliercards · 02-03-2020, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by glen87

-I believe he was one of the top five candidates
-I believe in voting for the best five candidates.
-Our jobs are to vote for the best five

yet did not vote for him....hhhhhmmmmmmmmm

Not charity, charity would be voting for Gary Clark

Siberian13 · 02-03-2020, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dolphinsdude

I believe Tim Brown has zero 1st teams APs and only one 2nd team. Never understood it.

Google first. Two 1st team all pros and two 2nd team all
Pros.

glen87 · 02-03-2020, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Not charity, charity would be voting for Gary Clark

now them are fightin words

Noles939913 · 02-03-2020, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyphon25

That is pretty much the definition of a charity vote. He said Troy was one of the 5 best but didn't give him one of his 5 votes. So he literally said he voted for what he viewed as an inferior talent.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but he didn't even belong in over the 2 other receivers he was up against this year. He has no first team All Pros and only 1 2nd team. How many other HoF receivers can say that?

Which will be a mistake based off of what his explanation was for voting. The dude has no business being allowed to vote when he admits to voting for the less talented players.

How many WRs can say they have the fifth most receiving yards of all-time?

Also did you know that Bruce once led the league in receiving and wasn’t named first or second team All-Pro?

Why are you even talking about Bruce though he wasn’t one of the ones King was caping for.

Siberian13 · 02-03-2020, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by glen87

-I believe he was one of the top five candidates
-I believe in voting for the best five candidates.
-Our jobs are to vote for the best five

yet did not vote for him....hhhhhmmmmmmmmm

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Not charity, charity would be voting for Gary Clark

Siberian13 · 02-03-2020, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Noles939913

How many WRs can say they have the fifth most receiving yards of all-time?

5 of them

myerscards · 02-03-2020, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Not charity, charity would be voting for Gary Clark

Give it a few years he may get in the way they are watering it down. People are mad cause Drew Pearson didn't get in. Good numbers but not HOF numbers.

Noles939913 · 02-03-2020, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

5 of them

And how many are in the HOF?

dolphinsdude · 02-03-2020, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

Google first. Two 1st team all pros and two 2nd team all
Pros.

Care to put a wager on it?

Noles939913 · 02-03-2020, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dolphinsdude

Care to put a wager on it?

You’d lose.

glen87 · 02-03-2020, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dolphinsdude

Care to put a wager on it?

All-Pro: 1988KR (PFWA, SN, PW) • 1997 (SN)

All-Pro Second Team: 1997 (AP)

https://www.profootballhof.com/players/tim-brown/

dolphinsdude · 02-03-2020, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by glen87

All-Pro: 1988KR (PFWA, SN, PW) • 1997 (SN)

All-Pro Second Team: 1997 (AP)

https://www.profootballhof.com/players/tim-brown/

Are you honestly counting Sporting News and Pro Weekly.

Siberian13 · 02-03-2020, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dolphinsdude

Care to put a wager on it?

You trying to break the TOS or blowout?

I was going by first thing that popped which was wiki. Internet can be wrong too.

They have him listed for two each.

02-03-2020, 02:52 PM	#1
Cyphon25 Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,751	Peter King HoF Voting Explanation So I just read an article where King gave an explanation for not giving a vote for Troy Polamalu to get into the HoF. Here it is “6. I think an explanation for the lack of vote for Polamalu on the final five is necessary. I believe he was one of the top five candidates this year, and I believe in voting for the best five candidates. But because I felt certain Polamalu would make it regardless of my vote, I decided to vote for three players I felt were marginal after listening to the deliberations—Atwater, Boselli and Lynch. I don’t feel great about doing that, honestly. Our jobs are to vote for the best five, and I was totally on the fence about the fifth yea vote had I marked down Polamalu. It still bothers me a little bit. But I felt so strongly about the cases of Atwater, Boselli and Lynch, who were exceedingly close in my eyes, that I wanted to vote for them, knowing that a vote not for Polamalu was not going to keep him out. I’ve done this a couple of times before, and I absolutely do not want to make it a habit. It just felt like the right thing to do this year.” So he starts by admitting he is one of the top 5 guys and thus, a deserving hall of famer but goes on to explain that he felt bad for other guys and decided to give out charity votes. While he didn't vote for Isaac Bruce this is why guys like Isaac Bruce get into the HoF and it starts to lose it's luster. How many other writers/voters are rolling with this same thought process? In my opinion this is a flat out admission that he can't be trusted and he should be stripped of his voting rights. He says he has done it multiple times as well. I will even go a step further, I would love for the NFL to revamp the whole process and go with more guys like they have on the blue ribbon panel as opposed to writers. The blue ribbon included guys like Bill Belichick, John Madden, Ozzie Newsome etc....I'll trust what those guys know about football more than this idiot writers. __________________ http://s577.photobucket.com/user/Cyphon25/library/?sort=3&page=0

02-03-2020, 02:54 PM	#2
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02-03-2020, 02:58 PM	#3
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