Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[Bob Loblaw]

Change my mind.

This product is grotesque.

[Eldun]

I am a fan of Project 2020. Primarily because I like the idea of being able to see 20 artists take on the same source material and produce their unique spin on that card.

That though is not what you asked. You wanted your mind changed on why it is not the worst product since 91 Fleer. To that I would say regardless of if you like the Project 2020 cards they do and will bring more interest to the original cards they are duplicating and the sets they come from. That has the opportunity to strengthen collectors knowledge of the hobby and add interest to the vintage market.

I have bought a few of the Project 2020 cards and have looked into the pricing for the graded vintage cards they are based on as I would like to display the original next to the Project 2020 version.

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

Change my mind.

These cards are grotesque.

I was going to start a thread asking what’s the ugliest set of all-time. I was going to nominate ‘91 Fleer, but that might already be accepted as fact.


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[fulltritty]

The Ichiro one was great. The rest look like a 3rd grader drew them.

[ThoseBackPages]

For $20, they should be framed

cant bring myself to spend $20 on the frame-less copies

some of them have been appealing, some not

[gmoney328]

The Ripken with no face is just weird....

Now you have the Bill Ripken F%$! Face and the Cal Ripken No Face.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by Eldun

I am a fan of Project 2020. Primarily because I like the idea of being able to see 20 artists take on the same source material and produce their unique spin on that card.

That though is not what you asked. You wanted your mind changed on why it is not the worst product since 91 Fleer. To that I would say regardless of if you like the Project 2020 cards they do and will bring more interest to the original cards they are duplicating and the sets they come from. That has the opportunity to strengthen collectors knowledge of the hobby and add interest to the vintage market.

I have bought a few of the Project 2020 cards and have looked into the pricing for the graded vintage cards they are based on as I would like to display the original next to the Project 2020 version.

2nd post! Welcome to Blowout. Which card did you design in the set?

[JF6]

I think they’re interesting as a curiosity to see how different artists go about something. No interest in owning any of them though.

Edit: Of course 2 months later I've got like 80 of them either in hand or on order.

[Eldun]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

2nd post! Welcome to Blowout. Which card did you design in the set?

I wish I had enough talent to draw anything more than stick figures. I've been lurking on the site for a while but in general don't like to post on any forums.

I did get into the hobby about 18 months ago, catching the bug after finding out about online breaks. Really enjoyed doing those for a period and even was enjoying the hobby enough to go to the National in Chicago last year.

After a while though I found that my enjoyment of the hobby can't come from just collecting anything. I am not a flipper and while I buy on ebay I've never done a sale on it because I worry about all the horror stories I've read. So to limit my increasing collection of all sports and teams I've been trying to determine what I want my PC to be.

Perhaps because of that I am open to more unique types of product such as this. Plus it does let me add knowledge of the history of the hobby that I don't have coming back in as an adult 25 years after collecting as a kid.

Other than Project 2020 I also have narrowed my baseball collecting down to Bowman as I have found it fun as a way to be engaged in learning about the prospects.

[UGLI baby]

The Trout and Ripken are amazing.

I bought the Trout and Jackie Robinson. Would have bought the Ripken but I have no connection to him, and already planning on buying all the Trout and Jackie’s.

I can see why people don’t like these, but all good art is divisive.

[marterburn]

It's OK to not like art.

Modern art and sports are not two things that necessarily go together -- one is very literal, one is very interperative. Sports have 1 ruleset. Art has few rules.

Some people like to see everything in front of them exactly in only the way they want it seen, and that's what sports is. There's only one reality.

The reality of art is unique on an individual level. So when someone says "I like that" to a HR, everyone who agrees, agrees in the same way. When someone says "I like that" to a piece of artwork, everyone who agrees is saying so for, largely, completely different reasons.

So why I think some baseball card people so strongly detest these, is because it's not something that fits a literal mode of thinking, which is what baseball is.

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[Asian62150]

This set is definitely one of those "buy it if you like it, don't if you don't."

It's not like this replaced Bowman or Topps Flagship.

This is just a new thing by Topps.

Whether it succeeds or fails, at least they're trying new stuff and thinking outside the box.

The Griffey, Jackie, and Clemente look cool to me. The Trout is just...weird.

Art is art.

[rfgilles]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

I was going to start a thread asking what’s the ugliest set of all-time. I was going to nominate ‘91 Fleer, but that might already be accepted as fact.


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Gary V's wine bottle design. Maybe not all-time, but gets my Razzie vote for ugliest card of 2019.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Topps-...-/133158038415

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

Change my mind.

These cards are grotesque.

If they wanted artists who could do flawless likenesses, Topps already has numerous artists working for them they could have gone to.

These are not those kinds of cards. For that reason, they look exactly how they should, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[commando]

Way back in 1985, The Chicago Renaissance Society released a set of 18 White Sox cards. Each card featured a player drawn by a different artist, so it is similar in many ways to the Topps Project 2020 cards. Most Tom Seaver, Carlton Fisk and Harold Baines collectors have no idea these even exist! And yes, many of these are tough to look at, LOL!!

1985 Chicago Renaissance Society White Sox Set

[marterburn]

Originally Posted by commando

Way back in 1985, The Chicago Renaissance Society released a set of 18 White Sox cards. Each card featured a player drawn by a different artist, so it is similar in many ways to the Topps Project 2020 cards. Most Tom Seaver, Carlton Fisk and Harold Baines collectors have no idea these even exist! And yes, many of these are tough to look at, LOL!!



1985 Chicago Renaissance Society White Sox Set

Oh wow, I love some of those. Salazar, Cruz, and Hairston are my favorites. Thanks for sharing!

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[mchenrycards]

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

Change my mind.

These cards are grotesque.

I cannot change your mind as you are right! UGLY.

[anusinha]

These are ugly AF

[Triple B]

Beauty definitely is in the eye of the beholder.

[gmarutiak]

As a Pirates fan, I was looking forward to seeing what the Clemente card looked like. Just looked at the Clemente card, and I literally laughed out loud. These are so, so bad.

You really only need to look at the names of the "artists" to know that these are going to be horrendous.

[smanzari]

I like it, Kind of sad I missed out on the Trout- Originally I hated it but now I want one. These are definitely more of an art print than they are a Baseball Card IMO

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by commando

Way back in 1985, The Chicago Renaissance Society released a set of 18 White Sox cards. Each card featured a player drawn by a different artist, so it is similar in many ways to the Topps Project 2020 cards. Most Tom Seaver, Carlton Fisk and Harold Baines collectors have no idea these even exist! And yes, many of these are tough to look at, LOL!!

1985 Chicago Renaissance Society White Sox Set

Apparently Bannister’s picture is a screen grab from To Catch a Predator. I would not be happy if my portrait turned out like that...


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[BigRedMachine80]

I guess it's about time a product that is uglier than '91 Fleer emerged. They had a good run. 29 years of being the ugliest baseball card in production. Time to hand that crown over Fleer. Meanwhile 1990 Donruss is looking on and clapping.

[psd2k10]

These cards were made for adults who have the mindset of a 9 year old. i kid i kid. ...hey whatever floats your boat. personally, I'll rather let my boat sink.

[ThoseBackPages]

i like 1991 Fleer