Is this a fake flip?

sickmantz · 04-26-2017, 07:48 PM

1956 TOPPS #5 TED WILLIAMS NM PSA 7 LG271 | eBay

gobullz1 · 04-26-2017, 07:52 PM

What??

mjohnatgt · 04-26-2017, 07:55 PM

Flip looks fine and checks out in the set registry. The flips starting with 30,000,000 are actually old flips. They're about to hit 30,000,000 cards graded, so they're going to have to skip back over those numbers.
Is that paper loss to Ted's face or is there sticker residue that wasn't cleaned off the slab? Card looks real and would have gotten a 7 back then if the problem isn't paper loss. With paper loss, should be a 1.5 or so.

mjohnatgt · 04-26-2017, 07:59 PM

Looking at the slab, it looks heavily frosted, but I can't be sure that it's been resealed. No fraudster would attempt to stick a FAIR/GOOD card in a NM holder. Just doesn't make sense. I will message the seller and see if the slab has residue or surface damage. They should probably send it back for a reholder before selling it, since it does lead to questions.

sickmantz · 04-27-2017, 09:38 AM

I asked if it's fake because it looked weird to me in the preview of the listing - the color seemed off. Clicking on it, I noticed the marks across his face. If those marks really are on the card, it can't be a 7, but maybe it's just the scanner. Also, there's a break in the first L in Williams that makes it look like an I.

I don't know anything, though, so I was just asking.

mjohnatgt · 04-27-2017, 11:39 AM

He sent me a picture of the card without the residue. Ill post it later tonight. Said that those were on the graded card sleeve. Didn't seem too concerned about it not being real.

rats60 · 04-27-2017, 12:17 PM

I would avoid that card. The centering isn't very good. It also looks small to me.

04-26-2017, 07:48 PM	#1
sickmantz Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: CA Posts: 2,467 vashthe84	Is this a fake flip? 1956 TOPPS #5 TED WILLIAMS NM PSA 7 LG271 \| eBay

04-26-2017, 07:52 PM	#2
gobullz1 Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 3,079 gostevenjackson!	What??

04-26-2017, 07:55 PM	#3
mjohnatgt Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Niceville, FL Posts: 14,517 mjohnatgt mjohnatgt	Flip looks fine and checks out in the set registry. The flips starting with 30,000,000 are actually old flips. They're about to hit 30,000,000 cards graded, so they're going to have to skip back over those numbers. Is that paper loss to Ted's face or is there sticker residue that wasn't cleaned off the slab? Card looks real and would have gotten a 7 back then if the problem isn't paper loss. With paper loss, should be a 1.5 or so.

04-26-2017, 07:59 PM	#4
mjohnatgt Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Niceville, FL Posts: 14,517 mjohnatgt mjohnatgt	Looking at the slab, it looks heavily frosted, but I can't be sure that it's been resealed. No fraudster would attempt to stick a FAIR/GOOD card in a NM holder. Just doesn't make sense. I will message the seller and see if the slab has residue or surface damage. They should probably send it back for a reholder before selling it, since it does lead to questions.

04-27-2017, 09:38 AM	#5
sickmantz Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: CA Posts: 2,467 vashthe84	I asked if it's fake because it looked weird to me in the preview of the listing - the color seemed off. Clicking on it, I noticed the marks across his face. If those marks really are on the card, it can't be a 7, but maybe it's just the scanner. Also, there's a break in the first L in Williams that makes it look like an I. I don't know anything, though, so I was just asking.

04-27-2017, 11:39 AM	#6
mjohnatgt Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Niceville, FL Posts: 14,517 mjohnatgt mjohnatgt	He sent me a picture of the card without the residue. Ill post it later tonight. Said that those were on the graded card sleeve. Didn't seem too concerned about it not being real.

04-27-2017, 12:17 PM	#7
rats60 Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 9,904	I would avoid that card. The centering isn't very good. It also looks small to me.