Kobe RC Score Board and Press Pass Auto's

Valdus · 10-24-2016, 07:16 AM

Hi guys, I've started a Kobe PC collection a while ago and I'm focusing on his key rc cards that I can afford

Was planning to get a Score Boad or a Press Pass auto but I don't know on which one to focus as the most valuable and also I've read stories of fakes etc., so any help or suggestion would be appreciated

thanks!

Valdus · 10-25-2016, 12:43 AM

anyone?

DajuanWagner · 10-25-2016, 10:26 AM

I would stay away from any Scoreboard and Press Pass. Too risky.

byronscott4ever · 10-25-2016, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DajuanWagner

I would stay away from any Scoreboard and Press Pass. Too risky.

This exactly.

mc1 · 10-25-2016, 11:18 AM

Those arent even rookie cards, just unlicensed junk.

Exquisite074 · 10-25-2016, 12:13 PM

It's that time of the year for this thread again...

HobbyKings.com :: View topic - Fake Iverson Auto back up... with bid!
HobbyKings.com :: View topic - Real or Fake Help with Kobe Scoreboard Auto

There are legit Autos from Kobes RC year and that is what I'd pick up if I were you, but be careful of fakes, and stay away from the next year as SB went bankrupt and all those were blank! There were some that were signed later IP, but the majority are fake - and not even good fakes! Plus, so many people had blanks and tried to sell that they didn't even keep track of what serial #'s were faked - here is a funny look at 3 different fakes with the same serial #... eBay used to let you message people so I'd warn buyers about them, but then gave up as I couldn't contact them, and figured it would be a cheap lesson on fakes... Now I just have a folder on my PC with hundreds of images of all the fakes...

bjho852 · 10-25-2016, 12:22 PM

I actually think that Press Pass ones are okay, but the autographs (signed in blue) don't showcase well on them (Kobe wearing a dark high school jersey). Be sure to ask to see the back of the card to make sure that it's not a base card with an aftermarket autograph.

Scoreboard ones are the ones to really watch out for.

Valdus · 10-25-2016, 12:35 PM

ok guys thanks for your help, what about stuff like this?

1996 Score Board Autographed Basketball Red Kobe Bryant AUTO PSA 9 MINT (PWCC) | eBay

tedwilliamsfan · 10-25-2016, 02:40 PM

The 1996 Press Pass Kobe Bryant Auto is actually one of my favorite cards I own. Here's a scan:

As you can tell (also previously stated) the blue ink doesn't jump off the card. I have never heard of any fakes of the pack-pulled version with the COA on the back of the card. However, as previously stated, someone could just take a base card and forge his signature. That's why the back of the card is so important.

There are real pack-pulled Scoreboard Auto's also, but Scoreboard does have a bad reputation they earned. The prices have climbed quite a bit on legit 1996 Kobe Auto's in the past few years.

Also, these are the closest thing to a Kobe "RC Auto" that you can find, whether they are "unlicensed junk" or not. If I had a personal collection of Kobe the 1996 Press Pass Auto (graded BGS with a 9/10) would definitely be a card on my list. I bought my ungraded copy in 2004 and I've been happy with it since.

Hope this helps a little in clarifying that Press Pass definitely has certified copies of Kobe's first Autograph card with a full signature that he didn't use for a long time. I know I'm not the only fan of Press Pass early Auto's of many players and I wish they'd make a comeback so I could pick up cheap first year Autograph cards.

Valdus · 10-25-2016, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedwilliamsfan

The 1996 Press Pass Kobe Bryant Auto is actually one of my favorite cards I own. Here's a scan:

As you can tell (also previously stated) the blue ink doesn't jump off the card. I have never heard of any fakes of the pack-pulled version with the COA on the back of the card. However, as previously stated, someone could just take a base card and forge his signature. That's why the back of the card is so important.

There are real pack-pulled Scoreboard Auto's also, but Scoreboard does have a bad reputation they earned. The prices have climbed quite a bit on legit 1996 Kobe Auto's in the past few years.

Also, these are the closest thing to a Kobe "RC Auto" that you can find, whether they are "unlicensed junk" or not. If I had a personal collection of Kobe the 1996 Press Pass Auto (graded BGS with a 9/10) would definitely be a card on my list. I bought my ungraded copy in 2004 and I've been happy with it since.

Hope this helps a little in clarifying that Press Pass definitely has certified copies of Kobe's first Autograph card with a full signature that he didn't use for a long time. I know I'm not the only fan of Press Pass early Auto's of many players and I wish they'd make a comeback so I could pick up cheap first year Autograph cards.

thanks mate, very helpful! And beautiful card btw, hope to add it soon to my collection

the27guy · 10-25-2016, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bjho852

I actually think that Press Pass ones are okay, but the autographs (signed in blue) don't showcase well on them (Kobe wearing a dark high school jersey). Be sure to ask to see the back of the card to make sure that it's not a base card with an aftermarket autograph.

Scoreboard ones are the ones to really watch out for.

This is also my understanding.

Kobe101 · 10-25-2016, 03:44 PM

Yeah it would get the press pass one it's nice too! I always liked press pass

bjho852 · 10-25-2016, 04:06 PM

I guess that I will show mine as well. I acquired it a year or two ago.

Valdus · 12-31-2016, 07:37 AM

guys what do you think of this one, I'm thinking of pulling the trigger, but the auto looks very fade to me although it's graded 10, what you think?

1996 Press Pass - Autographs - [Autographed] #KOBR - Kobe Bryant [BGS 9]
Courtesy of COMC.com

bdrr · 12-31-2016, 07:50 AM

Press Pass is a legit company and always trustworthy. Anybody saying otherwise is just wrong. They never had issues with backdoors or unsigned proofs.

Scoreboard did have some issues and you have to be careful. However, they produced the true Autograph rookies for a lot of players. If you know what sets to avoid, you should be okay.

bdrr · 12-31-2016, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Valdus

ok guys thanks for your help, what about stuff like this?

1996 Score Board Autographed Basketball Red Kobe Bryant AUTO PSA 9 MINT (PWCC) | eBay

That's considered *the* Kobe rookie auto. There are other ScoreBoards that are mostly faked, so you still need to be careful.

bjho852 · 12-31-2016, 06:59 PM

Wait for a better one. The autograph was probably bold when first graded, but faded over time because of the over exposure to sunlight or florescent light.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valdus

guys what do you think of this one, I'm thinking of pulling the trigger, but the auto looks very fade to me although it's graded 10, what you think?

1996 Press Pass - Autographs - [Autographed] #KOBR - Kobe Bryant [BGS#@9]
Courtesy of COMC.com

Beavers98 · 01-01-2017, 03:44 PM

I like the Press Pass auto and really liked their product line. Many Bold, Large ON Card Autos before players got all "Signed Out" with later releases.. Some of the best looking Autos I have are Press Pass Autos..

Valdus · 01-07-2017, 04:37 AM

Thanks guys for the tips!

10-24-2016, 07:16 AM	#1
Valdus Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Napoli, Italy Posts: 274 valdus81 Valdus	Kobe RC Score Board and Press Pass Auto's Hi guys, I've started a Kobe PC collection a while ago and I'm focusing on his key rc cards that I can afford Was planning to get a Score Boad or a Press Pass auto but I don't know on which one to focus as the most valuable and also I've read stories of fakes etc., so any help or suggestion would be appreciated thanks! __________________ PC:KOBE BRYANT

10-25-2016, 12:43 AM	#2
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10-25-2016, 12:22 PM	#7
bjho852 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,117	I actually think that Press Pass ones are okay, but the autographs (signed in blue) don't showcase well on them (Kobe wearing a dark high school jersey). Be sure to ask to see the back of the card to make sure that it's not a base card with an aftermarket autograph. Scoreboard ones are the ones to really watch out for. Last edited by bjho852; 10-25-2016 at 12:26 PM.

10-25-2016, 12:35 PM	#8
Valdus Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Napoli, Italy Posts: 274 valdus81 Valdus	ok guys thanks for your help, what about stuff like this? 1996 Score Board Autographed Basketball Red Kobe Bryant AUTO PSA 9 MINT (PWCC) \| eBay __________________ PC:KOBE BRYANT

10-25-2016, 02:40 PM	#9
tedwilliamsfan Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 2,526 jimihendrixfan	The 1996 Press Pass Kobe Bryant Auto is actually one of my favorite cards I own. Here's a scan: As you can tell (also previously stated) the blue ink doesn't jump off the card. I have never heard of any fakes of the pack-pulled version with the COA on the back of the card. However, as previously stated, someone could just take a base card and forge his signature. That's why the back of the card is so important. There are real pack-pulled Scoreboard Auto's also, but Scoreboard does have a bad reputation they earned. The prices have climbed quite a bit on legit 1996 Kobe Auto's in the past few years. Also, these are the closest thing to a Kobe "RC Auto" that you can find, whether they are "unlicensed junk" or not. If I had a personal collection of Kobe the 1996 Press Pass Auto (graded BGS with a 9/10) would definitely be a card on my list. I bought my ungraded copy in 2004 and I've been happy with it since. Hope this helps a little in clarifying that Press Pass definitely has certified copies of Kobe's first Autograph card with a full signature that he didn't use for a long time. I know I'm not the only fan of Press Pass early Auto's of many players and I wish they'd make a comeback so I could pick up cheap first year Autograph cards. __________________ I collect Michael Jordan, 1950's Willie Mays PSA, and Pokemon cards. Last edited by tedwilliamsfan; 10-25-2016 at 02:44 PM.

10-25-2016, 10:26 AM	#3
DajuanWagner Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 7,425	I would stay away from any Scoreboard and Press Pass. Too risky.

10-25-2016, 11:18 AM	#5
mc1 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 11,208	Those arent even rookie cards, just unlicensed junk.

10-25-2016, 12:13 PM	#6
Exquisite074 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: California Posts: 384 IversonExquisite IversonExquisite	It's that time of the year for this thread again... HobbyKings.com :: View topic - Fake Iverson Auto back up... with bid! HobbyKings.com :: View topic - Real or Fake Help with Kobe Scoreboard Auto There are legit Autos from Kobes RC year and that is what I'd pick up if I were you, but be careful of fakes, and stay away from the next year as SB went bankrupt and all those were blank! There were some that were signed later IP, but the majority are fake - and not even good fakes! Plus, so many people had blanks and tried to sell that they didn't even keep track of what serial #'s were faked - here is a funny look at 3 different fakes with the same serial #... eBay used to let you message people so I'd warn buyers about them, but then gave up as I couldn't contact them, and figured it would be a cheap lesson on fakes... Now I just have a folder on my PC with hundreds of images of all the fakes...

10-25-2016, 03:44 PM	#12
Kobe101 Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410	Yeah it would get the press pass one it's nice too! I always liked press pass

10-25-2016, 04:06 PM	#13
bjho852 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,117	I guess that I will show mine as well. I acquired it a year or two ago.

12-31-2016, 07:37 AM	#14
Valdus Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Napoli, Italy Posts: 274 valdus81 Valdus	guys what do you think of this one, I'm thinking of pulling the trigger, but the auto looks very fade to me although it's graded 10, what you think? 1996 Press Pass - Autographs - [Autographed] #KOBR - Kobe Bryant [BGS 9] Courtesy of COMC.com __________________ PC:KOBE BRYANT

12-31-2016, 07:50 AM	#15
bdrr Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Washington, DC but Los Angeles at heart. Posts: 13,315	Press Pass is a legit company and always trustworthy. Anybody saying otherwise is just wrong. They never had issues with backdoors or unsigned proofs. Scoreboard did have some issues and you have to be careful. However, they produced the true Autograph rookies for a lot of players. If you know what sets to avoid, you should be okay. __________________ ~~I am the Lauri Markkanen hype machine.~~ ~~Haha. Kill me.~~ WHAT NOW, B*****S, LAURI 4EVA

01-01-2017, 03:44 PM	#18
Beavers98 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ames, IA Posts: 10,996 beavers98	I like the Press Pass auto and really liked their product line. Many Bold, Large ON Card Autos before players got all "Signed Out" with later releases.. Some of the best looking Autos I have are Press Pass Autos..

01-07-2017, 04:37 AM	#19
Valdus Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Napoli, Italy Posts: 274 valdus81 Valdus	Thanks guys for the tips! __________________ PC:KOBE BRYANT