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Originally Posted by charnick
i don't usually get involved in these blowout dramatic threads, but i feel like i have to ask the OP a couple of honest questions. no bloviating, no BS, just curious...
what is your end game in this? are you trying to get a big score by eventually selling it, or are you trying to collect something for the fun of it? because as a Yankee fan (well, I should have said this two weeks ago, lol) and I pulled an A-Rod auto missing the auto, and Topps offered me an auto to replace it, I'd have jumped at the chance, and the card would be in my display case right now. are all autos of the same player the same value? no, but Topps offer seems reasonable to me. you'd have the A-Rod autograph you so desperately seem to want.
next, you said you had a meeting with A-Rod to sign it all set up, but Topps wouldn't send a representative. did you honestly blow off a chance to meet and get the autograph of one of the most prolific, yet polarizing baseball figures of our lifetime, just because Topps wouldn't send a rep? you could have gotten the auto, the memory of a lifetime, and sent it off to JSA/BGS or PSA/DNA and for $30-$50 or so, gotten the authentication you so desperately seem to want. this seems like an odd decision to me.
what if everything in this entire situation went your way... best case scenario: Topps admits fault, A-Rod signs the card, Topps rep stickers it. BGS grades it 9/10. now in this scenario you are finally made whole. what do you do? sell it, keep it? because if you keep it, then why blow off A-Rod? you have the auto. and if you sell it, will the riches you would reap be worth all the trouble? you'd no longer have the card, the whole situation would be gone from your life. and you'd be left with what? a couple thousand dollars tops? the man's card values are dropping by the day with all the trouble he keeps getting in. if you truly were looking to cash in, you're literally losing money every day you hold onto it, autographed or not.
are you just trying to "teach Topps a lesson" by holding them to some corporate standard of righteousness? i honestly want to know the answers to these questions because your actions and motivations truly baffle me at this point.
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All very fair and honest questions unlike some of the people posting nonsense here and I would be happy to answer them for you.
I have saved cards on and off since I was a kid. I enjoy collecting error cards and weird cards and when I originally bought this card I knew it was an arod card missing the autograph but I didn't know it was the arod 1/1 card until I received it. Immediately from that point on I knew this was an error card I wanted to get fixed and tried very hard to do just that.
Most likely had I been able to get this card fixed years back I would have sold it or tried to sell it. As for the replacement they sent it was nowhere the same value as this card in my opinion at the time.
The two main things I was looking for in a replacement for this was the odds to pull and it being so rare. I think when most people send in replacement cards to Topps they even state that they will replace a card based on Beckett value. In this case there is no Beckett value so the only other factors to go by would be how rare and odds to pull, again in my opinion.
I haven't spoke the gentleman who was handling all this for arod and myself for quite a few months now but he seemed very nice and last we spoke I explained Topps wasn't cooperating and the whole thing was on hold. He told me no problem and should anything new happen or should I change my mind please let him know.
I could like you said get it autographed and maybe get or graded and authenticated with BGS or PSA but without those stickers on the back the card to me would not be complete and would not be worth as much as it could or should be.
If this were all finished tomorrow and I got my way and the card was autographed and stickered I probably would not sell it now. Like you mentioned all the problems he has been having it just does not seem like a good time. Will there be a good time in the furture? Who knows?
Truthfully at this point yes i am holding Topps accountable for this.
Even before all of this I actually offered to work for Topps in help with locating these cards and quickly and quietly getting them removed from the marketplace. I offered to help work for them to make sure mistakes like these would not happen anymore and was basically ignored.
This is not the only Topps error I have and I felt I could have helped Topps when it came to cards and situations like this. Below are some of the errors I have found in 2012 and there are more cards I have not even posted.
http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...ror-cards.html
http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...ror-cards.html